GT200 only high-end for launch timeframe

[gamecrazychris]

I've been seeing rumors that the new Nvidia GT200 (9900?) is going to

be extreme high end for the first months after its launch. Has anyone

heard any truth to this? When I say high end I think $400+ because I am

looking to get one of the new cards to replace my 8800gt but don't want

to spend more than $350 max.

I might see the benchmarks and if the price is right pick up a second

8800Gt.

Let the comments begin..........

 

[invisik]

Yes the 9900gtx and the 9900gx2 r going to be the high-end cards. The rumors are that the 9900gtx will be priced at 500$ since there replacing the 9800gx2, but nvidia could change there price due to amd/ati offering far cheap cards.

 

[DarthPiggie]

Well.....It will be a repeat of the 8series it seems, in the beggining, with the GTX, and the GTS640, and then a HUGE!!!!! gap between those cards and the 128bit G84, simply pathethic. Anyway, unfortunately those cards will be VERY pricey, so if your looking at that range for money, then get the RV770, whcih will suit your needs, but I doubt it will beat our 8800GT by much, if at all, unfortunately, NVdia really outdid themselves with G80.

 

[gamecrazychris]

Yes the 9900gtx and the 9900gx2 r going to be the high-end cards. The rumors are that the 9900gtx will be priced at 500$ since there replacing the 9800gx2, but nvidia could change there price due to amd/ati offering far cheap cards.

But what about the 9900GT or 9900GTS?

 

[dagger]

But what about the 9900GT or 9900GTS?

So you can pay them less? Yeah right. It's Nvidia we're talking about.

 

[DarthPiggie]

No, its a corporation thing period...that were talking about, standard procedure, extract maximum profits.

 

[DarthPiggie]

Unfortunately, High end isnt very profitable because very few people buy it.

 

[invisik]

But what about the 9900GT or 9900GTS?

Not sure wat the price is for the 9900gts or gt. But im guessing the 9900gts will be about 349$ wile the gt will be priced at 299$. The 9800gtx will fall around 249$ just my guess.

 

[gamecrazychris]

Not sure wat the price is for the 9900gts or gt. But im guessing the 9900gts will be about 349$ wile the gt will be priced at 299$. The 9800gtx will fall around 249$ just my guess.

I think you got your prices a little mixed up, I think the GTS will end up being around $320 and no more than $250 for the GT also I think you meant to put the GTX as $450.

EDIT: I thought you put 9900GTX so nevermind.

 

[invisik]

I think you got your prices a little mixed up, I think the GTS will end up being around $320 and no more than $250 for the GT also I think you meant to put the GTX as $450.

EDIT: I thought you put 9900GTX so nevermind.

we all know nvidia is known to overprice there cards. i wouldnt be surprised if my guess comes true.

 

[TheGreatGrapeApe]

But what about the 9900GT or 9900GTS?

Where were those at G80 launch?
Oh yeah the GT was a year away and didn't exist even as an engineering sample and the GTS was the 640 that was already mentioned which cost $400 since it was still the big huge chip and complex PCB just with slight cutdown.

You bought your card toward the end of the life cycle of the G8 series, you'll have to do the same if you want the same value, so think think either Xmas time or next spring.

BTW, what's the rush to replace the GF8800GT?

 

[blacksci]

I love to see the speculation, i love it better when hopes and dreams are crushed.

 

[ovaltineplease]

I love to see the speculation, i love it better when hopes and dreams are crushed.

well from what the article today implied; the next big thing is going to be onboard physics for video cards - so maybe that'll be the norm in next gen games

but then again, probably not; I don't remember reading anything about physics being a main feature of some of the newer pc titles

I think i'm gonna just do a step up to a 9800 gx2 and call it a day; I get a feeling unless you're willing to drop a lot of money on a platform upgrade then you're not gonna benefit from 9900s that much for the cost of them..

someone else kinda made this point before in another thread: "whats the point of huge ownage 1000$ video arrays if none of the games utilize them"

 

[yadge]

I just hope that there will be a card with a dual slot cooler, around $350 or less, have the performance of 3870X2, and be out in mid June.

That's what I was hoping for with the 4870. I know I want a dual slot cooler, I like quietness and the security knowing I have the extra cooling.

Anything next gen will be a nice step from my x1950 pro. But I want it to be at least twice as fast, which requires about a 3870X2.

And I'm willing to spend up to $350. $400 if the performance is really great.

So it looks like I won't have any luck from ATI, since I want to buy in July. Maybe I'll finally get an nvidia card.

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Im wondering if theyll just leave it as is, drop the 88xxs and have a 9900GT thats a dumbed down GTX. Itll still be costly tho, with that huge chip aboard.

 

[yipsl]

Unfortunately, High end isnt very profitable because very few people buy it.

What high end does is set the perception of who's on top. So, when midrange cards are released, buyers take the high end into consideration. It's all marketing, which leads to profits; but marketing is bupkis.

I generally go ATI for AVIVO and good video quality as well as decent gaming. I skipped the 2xxx series altogether, not finding it worthwhile to ditch even the lowly X1650 Pro and 7600gs in our two PC's but bought new cards when 3xxx matured.

The 4xxx series looks good and should beat current Nvidia cards, but I expect G200 will be a bit better in terms of pure frames per second in many popular games. So, Nvidia should 'win' by the end of summer.

That won't make the G200 good enough for me. Nvidia hasn't done well enough outside of games to make me want to buy another one after the budget 7600 I tried out in 2007.

I'll admit, the Crysis gamers will be quite happy with G200 and Nvidia will sell quite a few to the FPS enthusiast crowd.

well from what the article today implied; the next big thing is going to be onboard physics for video cards - so maybe that'll be the norm in next gen games

Well, Nvidia has Aegia and Intel has Havok, but ATI's doing some sort of GPGPU physics with the 4xxx series. It will be interesting to see what games support which.

IMHO, physics only works in FPS. In Oblivion, the physics of watching a daedra roll down a hill wasn't so thrilling when that very same physics made it a rather difficult affair to set your table in the house you bought.

When in game physics can differentiate between the rag doll effects people want in FPS and a real world simulation such that you can set your table for easy role playing purposes, then it will be something I'll look for in games.

 

[hannibal]

The 4xxx series looks good and should beat current Nvidia cards, but I expect G200 will be a bit better in terms of pure frames per second in many popular games. So, Nvidia should 'win' by the end of summer.

Well the g200 should be better by big margin. The 4xxx series are middle range cards for price of $250-$400. The G200 is huge chip, with 512 bus so expect $650 for that GPU ferrari... It's comparable to 8800GTX and ultra, it's bigger, it has wider bus... Do you remember how much 8800GTX cost at the beginning, and even today?

Did someone said that ATI is going to come back highend at 2010? So far we will have good middle range cards from Nvidia and ATI and one highend from Nvidia, so no competition in there so no price war highend.

The best thing is that we will see new card from both companies!

 

[John Vuong]

So the GT200 is going to be released first? Ok then. And I have high hopes for this card, it better not turn out to be another 9800 GTX which we don't need.

Should be interesting, the 4800 series vs the 9900 series, I wonder which card is going to come out on top.

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Latest rumor is itll be faster than the GTXx2

 

[pauldh]

Latest Rumor names the GT200 as the GTX 280 not a 9900 series.
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7306&Itemid=1

 

[bfellow]

Well its not like ATI does a "top to bottom launch" like how Henri Richards once stated the 2000 series was supposed to be. Now all we saw that time was a delayed 2900XT and a 2900XTX that sank at launch.

 

[TheGreatGrapeApe]

Well its not like ATI does a "top to bottom launch" like how Henri Richards once stated the 2000 series was supposed to be. Now all we saw that time was a delayed 2900XT and a 2900XTX that sank at launch.

Yeah, but does it really matter?

There hasn't been top-bottom launches since the GF2 and early Radeon Days when there was basically 2 models (top and bottom).

The closest thing to Top to bottom launches were the X1300/1600/1900 and GF7300/7600/7900 launch and both of those had slight delays to make it fully top-bottom.

Don't think it makes much difference. It's an admirable desire, but meh, I don't care about the entry level user, and I doubt mareters do for launch either, they aren't as twitchy as the mid-high end and are more price sensitive, not timing and performance sensitive.

 

[invisik]

does anyone no the final spec of the 9900gtx? or when there going to release the info?

 

[blacksci]

Its all speculation until nvidia comes out and says this is what it will do, also its supposed to be coming out in the next month or two, if they dont have any delays that is, i could see a convinient delay though with ati deciding to not release until july, but well see.

 

[invisik]

hey i have a ? im returning my 9800gx2 because of a defect. one of the cores dont work! should i get the same card or get 2 8800? or should i wait a month for the 9900?