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May 16, 2008 1:31:51 AM

Hi there, long time lurker, first time poster.
I have a Gigabyte ep35-ds3r and a 9800 gtx
After doing some tests and comparing with others, I noticed my graphics-related benchmarks are quite lower than what most others normally get with this card.
I'm just wondering how much of a performance loss I'm experiencing since my mobo doesn't have a pci-e 2.0 slot this card is recommended for.
I've searched through the forums and only came up with answers that the bit less powerful cards like the 8000 series do suffer just a slight performance loss. Wondering if anyone here might know how big of an impact my 9800 gtx is taking from being run on pci-e 1.1 and not 2.0.
I don't think it's my other parts acting as the bottle neck for the 9800 (running e8400 and 4 gigs DDR2 at 4-4-4-12 @2.2v).
Any insight if i'm getting a significant performance loss and if so, whether i should upgrade my mobo with a pci-e 2.0 slot would be appreciated.

Thanks for everyone's help,
-Shawn

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May 16, 2008 1:39:25 AM

PCIE2.0 shouldn't have much of an effect. Graphics cards just aren't powerful enough to utilize it yet. And since you mentioned the "8000 series," keep in mind the 9800gtx is by no means a top card in comparasion. See benchmark:
http://en.expreview.com/2008/04/03/geforce-9800gtx-revi...

What score did you get? I get 15.5k in 3dmark06 with 8800gts on pcie2.0. If it's somewhere in the neighborhood, don't worry about it.


May 16, 2008 1:52:25 AM

2bored2lose said:
Hi there, long time lurker, first time poster.
I have a Gigabyte ep35-ds3r and a 9800 gtx
After doing some tests and comparing with others, I noticed my graphics-related benchmarks are quite lower than what most others normally get with this card.
I'm just wondering how much of a performance loss I'm experiencing since my mobo doesn't have a pci-e 2.0 slot this card is recommended for.
I've searched through the forums and only came up with answers that the bit less powerful cards like the 8000 series do suffer just a slight performance loss. Wondering if anyone here might know how big of an impact my 9800 gtx is taking from being run on pci-e 1.1 and not 2.0.
I don't think it's my other parts acting as the bottle neck for the 9800 (running e8400 and 4 gigs DDR2 at 4-4-4-12 @2.2v).
Any insight if i'm getting a significant performance loss and if so, whether i should upgrade my mobo with a pci-e 2.0 slot would be appreciated.

Thanks for everyone's help,
-Shawn


Being that the 9800GTX is the same exact thing as an 8800GTS 512 (with extra SLi connector for 100$..), it's safe to say you won't lose any notable performance..
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May 16, 2008 2:43:40 AM

Dont get that card it crappps
May 16, 2008 2:44:13 AM

I mean its good...
May 16, 2008 2:47:00 AM

Thank you for your replies.
I know the 9800 gtx is just an overclocked 8800gts, I mainly got it since it can overclock even further (more headroom) and still stay cooler than the 8800 gts while around the same price range(in fact cheaper sometimes depending what brand); hence i said "BIT less powerful."
Since others on these forums mentioned there is a slight performance loss on the 8800 series by not utilizing the 2.0 technology, I was wondering if the marginal stat differences between the 8800s and the 9800 gtx was enough for me to suffer a big enough/noticeable loss that I should change my mobo to one with a pci-e 2.0 slot.

Dagger, for 3Dmark06, i get an even score of 12k which is one of the benchmarks I find quite lower than others with the same or even lower setup that led me to start ask this topic.

Again, thanks for anyone who has knowledge on this matter and can help.
May 16, 2008 3:29:41 AM

2bored2lose said:
Thank you for your replies.
I know the 9800 gtx is just an overclocked 8800gts, I mainly got it since it can overclock even further (more headroom) and still stay cooler than the 8800 gts while around the same price range(in fact cheaper sometimes depending what brand); hence i said "BIT less powerful."
Since others on these forums mentioned there is a slight performance loss on the 8800 series by not utilizing the 2.0 technology, I was wondering if the marginal stat differences between the 8800s and the 9800 gtx was enough for me to suffer a big enough/noticeable loss that I should change my mobo to one with a pci-e 2.0 slot.

Dagger, for 3Dmark06, i get an even score of 12k which is one of the benchmarks I find quite lower than others with the same or even lower setup that led me to start ask this topic.

Again, thanks for anyone who has knowledge on this matter and can help.

12k is quite low, even considering the dual core's lower cpu component. It's still not a major problem though.

And no, GTX will not oc higher. Both use g92 core with 128 stream processors. Both will oc reliably to 750mhz, and possibly to 800mhz. GTX's artifically set higher stock rate only eats into oc headroom. The ram will oc higher though, but its impact on overall performance is small.

The place where GTX really shines is tri sli. Because other cheaper cards do not support tri sli. 3 9800gtx certainly perform better than 2 8800gts.
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