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June 5, 2008 11:47:23 AM

Awesome, Well found!

All I have to say now is, ROLL ON APRIL 2009 PRICE CUTS!
June 5, 2008 11:52:15 AM

Keep in mind, these were all done using a faulty mobo/components on a not yet fully tuned chip, not enabling everything that this chip can do. Im thinking a 40% bump overall > than Penryn
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June 5, 2008 11:55:37 AM

Yip, looks like Intel will be delivering on that 30-80% increase.
June 5, 2008 11:55:38 AM

What i find most impressive is the way they passed AMD who had a multiple-year headstart with it's on-die memory controller.
I'm curious to see how AMD will catch up with that, if they can catch up at all.
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June 5, 2008 11:59:35 AM

Are we expecting a major price drop on LGA775 when Nehalem is released?

I'm tight!
June 5, 2008 12:01:42 PM

I know what I want for Christmas!
June 5, 2008 12:04:24 PM

Im afraid were stuck with Intel as being its own competitor. How well this plays out in the future? Who knows?
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June 5, 2008 12:06:40 PM

^ Seriously if Intel goes any faster there will be no AMD. I think AMD should combine with nvidia and VIA to become a super-company! then Intel shall have some trouble...

four cores, at minimal power consumption! (but alas we have an experience index of 1...) I wanna ditch my Athlon!!!
June 5, 2008 12:08:38 PM

mi1ez said:
Are we expecting a major price drop on LGA775 when Nehalem is released?

I'm tight!

I hope so since even a slow clocked Nehalem will destroy anything quad-like. The other possibility is, that prices remain as they are and a Nehalem will, once released, cost an arm and a leg... and then some.
June 5, 2008 12:10:04 PM

Slobogob said:
I hope so since even a slow clocked Nehalem will destroy anything quad-like. The other possibility is, that prices remain as they are and a Nehalem will, once released, cost an arm and a leg... and then some.


Then again, given the prices of DDR3, intel has to make the platform itself attractive and affordable. So maybe we really see some dropping prices.


edit: Wow, instead of editing my previous post i obviously hit the reply button. I'm really turning into a posterboy for Post-whoring.
June 5, 2008 12:18:10 PM

Nehalem pricing will be steepr than weve seen lately, unless you buy the non oc version, which will still be costly. I think Intels deciding whats good for us, mentoring us, so we realize how good we have it.
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June 5, 2008 12:46:35 PM

Up to 40% improvement over Penryn... on a crippled mobo....

LGA Seven Seven Who!?!?!
June 5, 2008 12:48:45 PM

We should get together and start a vasoline saving fund to help a certain processor company in its darkest hour...

Update: I've decided that if need be I'll administer the fund...
June 5, 2008 12:51:38 PM

Just be prepared to spend some money. The better versions of these are going to cost. One thing I do see as a deterrent is, itll raise the lowend cost across the board.
June 5, 2008 12:55:17 PM

is it me, or the title of this post kinda reminds me of the title of a porn movie...
June 5, 2008 12:55:56 PM

JDocs said:
We should get together and start a vasoline saving fund to help a certain processor company in its darkest hour...

Update: I've decided that if need be I'll administer the fund...

Well, when i'm done buying and assembling a complete Phenom platform somewhere in 2009, i will sponsor the change i get back from the 100$ i planned to invest on it. Should be roughly 60$+ for the fund.
June 5, 2008 12:58:51 PM

Thanks man. $60... Hmmm well now its not much but its a great start.
June 5, 2008 1:03:52 PM

Nehalem looks awesome.
I guess it will be priced in the "skulltrail region" for early adopters. :D 

I think by 2015 we'll have CPUs the price of a small city car, AMD will be history and NVIDIA will be in AMDs current position in the graphics market.

Intel world domination is next.
June 5, 2008 1:06:10 PM

OK fine. Its an AMD/ATI/NVidia fund then...
June 5, 2008 1:09:49 PM

By then Intel should have one huge block thats morfable, that does all the calculating, graphics and windows and windows too heheh
June 5, 2008 1:11:28 PM

@JDocs
I'm in with my yearly supply of catnip and my old AMD singlecore (how I wish I bought an s939 X2 :(  last November) SLI capable system.

@jaydeejohn
No. Area51 has those already, but they won't let Alienware sell it. :D 
Joke aside, that sounds like Altera's STRATIX with a PowerPC and onboard FPGA.
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June 5, 2008 1:32:35 PM

Andrius said:
Nehalem looks awesome.
I guess it will be priced in the "skulltrail region" for early adopters. :D 

I think by 2015 we'll have CPUs the price of a small city car, AMD will be history and NVIDIA will be in AMDs current position in the graphics market.

Intel world domination is next.


Intel Skynet: More than you can imagine...
June 5, 2008 1:35:34 PM

*drool* x264 benchmark..
June 5, 2008 1:42:33 PM

I want to wait, but it would be... a year, or so, until it's affordable for me. So I guess the socket775 system in August is still on...
June 5, 2008 1:48:59 PM

I've also heard that Intel will still be developing Core 2 32nm processors and possibly 23nm for those of us still on the LGA775 socket so it shouldn't really be to big an issue.
June 5, 2008 1:54:49 PM

An alternative to the much more expensive Nehalem then? So all future C2Ds will be like celerons
June 5, 2008 1:59:21 PM

I have a Question? Where is Baron in through all of this and what will Thunderman say to try to counter this. The saga continues in the the story of "As the CPU Development Turns" bought to you by your daily dose of techno happennings.
June 5, 2008 2:01:28 PM

LOL fanboys will be fanboys heheh
June 5, 2008 2:07:02 PM

U mean BaronMatrix, MadModMike, 9-inch, MrsBytch, endyen? *lol*
Luckily, his days were counted some time ago, but hes still trolling these forums.
June 5, 2008 2:19:50 PM

Looks amazing, reminds me of the Core 2 launch. In a strange coincidence, my mobo died today and I was just considering upgrading to a quad. I guess I'll just replace the mobo with a placeholder and upgrade my whole system in q4. Here's to hoping DDR3 prices drop a bit by then.
June 5, 2008 2:23:30 PM

DDR3 may be cheaper, but how much will this cpu be? $$$

Ok noob overclocker, has a FSB - multiplier question.

If it has a FSB of 133 and a multiplier of 20, how does that translate into overclocking potential with DDR3. If you bump of the FSB to 399 would 8Ghz OC be possible? 399FSB would be synced with DDR3.

The heat is the limiting factor again. I can't imagine temps with 4 core - 8 threads at 8Ghz.

Like i said i am a OC noob, but i am sure you guys know what i am getting at with the FSB, Mulitplier and DDR3.
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June 5, 2008 2:26:21 PM

I think I have been one of the only ones saying this whole time that Intel was more than likely right on Nehalem. This, to say the least, is very impressive. Its almost like what Phenom was supposed to do to Core 2 is being done by Nehalem.

And jaydee, I don't think intel will stop any of the chips from being able to be OC'ed. Of course there will always be the EE versions that will have a unlocked multi but I still think we will be able to OC the mainstream ones. Even without the ability to OC this chip does look to deliver what it promised to, which is a higher IPC. I will also bet that the power consumption is not as low as it will be with the final product.
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June 5, 2008 2:32:14 PM

Actually I wasn't that impressed <cough ... splutter> *wipes sticky shoe*

Still no real reason to update from socket 939 ... heh heh.

Anand the Shrimpi is never wrong ... so the benchies don't lie.

We won't see these systems for ages though ... Intel still have to make a buck from their 45nm node ...

65nm is still paying most of their bills (if they had any).

I can't see them releasing it and effectively steamrolling their current offerings ... which are more than good enough for what most want. And in high gear production wise.

I bet Nehalem is a mongrel .... or impossible to overclock.

That's the scary land we are heading for ... Iv'e said this before.

Ycon ... your so clever ...
June 5, 2008 2:34:56 PM

I'm sorry but that first image of the die shrink looks like pen0r... i hope someone changes it... i'm at work and it totally looks NSFW... hehe
June 5, 2008 2:36:34 PM

There isnt one thing that says the lower end will be oceable. The high end yes, but not the low end. And as Ive said, even the low end is going to bump prices, I just hope its not a trend
June 5, 2008 2:52:04 PM

I'm interested to see how well they scale in multi-cpu servers. With the IMC I bet they put up some impressive numbers.

I'm excited about it for the desktop as well. Looks like I'll be upgrading in H1 09.
June 5, 2008 2:54:02 PM

If these scale well, the server market is going to love these
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June 5, 2008 2:56:56 PM

JAYDEEJOHN said:
There isnt one thing that says the lower end will be oceable. The high end yes, but not the low end. And as Ive said, even the low end is going to bump prices, I just hope its not a trend


Well the funny thing is that Intel has never said any of their CPUs are OC'able, minus the EEs. When I got a Q6600 there was nothing from Intel that stated the chip was OC'able. Although I assumed Intel knew it was easy for it to do.

As for the chip Anand had was a locked chip for good reasons. But I still think that all the chips will be OC'able. No reason for Intel to take away the one thing that a lot of people prefer about their chips.
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June 5, 2008 2:59:25 PM

50bmg said:
DDR3 may be cheaper, but how much will this cpu be? $$$

Ok noob overclocker, has a FSB - multiplier question.

If it has a FSB of 133 and a multiplier of 20, how does that translate into overclocking potential with DDR3. If you bump of the FSB to 399 would 8Ghz OC be possible? 399FSB would be synced with DDR3.

The heat is the limiting factor again. I can't imagine temps with 4 core - 8 threads at 8Ghz.

Like i said i am a OC noob, but i am sure you guys know what i am getting at with the FSB, Mulitplier and DDR3.


Not the place to post about OCing, and at 8GHz your processor will be able to set fire to things (assuming the thing even boots with the voltage that would need!)

Ram would be fine, but processor wouldn't. Not short of N2O...
June 5, 2008 3:09:21 PM

Id stick with the e7xxx at 3.8
June 5, 2008 3:21:18 PM

Andrius said:
Nehalem looks awesome.
I guess it will be priced in the "skulltrail region" for early adopters. :D 

I think by 2015 we'll have CPUs the price of a small city car, AMD will be history and NVIDIA will be in AMDs current position in the graphics market.

Intel world domination is next.

Intel video sucks and there is no way that they will be able to pass NVIDIA and ATI in video cards.
June 5, 2008 3:23:50 PM

I very well understand that 8G was simple math and that it probably wasnt posible. Not like i am running out to buy one and OC it. The 8Ghz was just a little BS. "not the place to post about OCing", funny 3 others have mentioned OCing the nehalem. It looks like a popular topic.

My point was how the FSB, the multiplier and DDR3 would work? I am impressed with the low FSB and 20x multiplier.
June 5, 2008 3:25:03 PM

JAYDEEJOHN said:
Id stick with the e7xxx at 3.8


ya'll are taking my post way to serious. LOL.

Edit: By the way, i love my e7200 @ 3.8G.
June 5, 2008 3:25:55 PM

thats what my Celeron 330 runs on default.20x133!

but the new architech will be such revolution specially the integrated memory controller.
June 5, 2008 3:31:37 PM

jimmysmitty said:
Well the funny thing is that Intel has never said any of their CPUs are OC'able, minus the EEs. When I got a Q6600 there was nothing from Intel that stated the chip was OC'able. Although I assumed Intel knew it was easy for it to do.

As for the chip Anand had was a locked chip for good reasons. But I still think that all the chips will be OC'able. No reason for Intel to take away the one thing that a lot of people enthusiasts prefer about their chips.


Fixed.

And dont be shocked when the Big Blue Steamroller locks you out of OCing unless you fork over major $$$$. Never forget that 'enthusiasts' like us are a tiny little portion of the market.
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June 5, 2008 3:34:19 PM

Joe_The_Dragon said:
Intel video sucks and there is no way that they will be able to pass NVIDIA and ATI in video cards.


I agree that their IGP is not good for gaming but they are obviously great for low cost business PCs cuz they have the most market share there.

But don't knock Intel yet. They have a very large R&D to boot. And the thing is that Intel took the IMC and from what we can see has already made it more effective than AMD who has had it for 4 years. So when Intel is serious they don't mess around.

I personally think nVidia needs another company to push them. They over charge like crazy since they have the best card at the uber high end.
June 5, 2008 3:38:02 PM

Some (not all) of those who are making fun of fanboys like thunderbird and baron and total and utter pathetic hypocrites.
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June 5, 2008 3:47:42 PM

I make fun of thundernewb b/c he is just funny. And easy to make fun of.

I only met Baron once....and said something he never responded to...might have shut him up....then I never saw him again.
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