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Palms equipped with external memory card allow to carry with you a lot
of information....
.... but when size of information grows it's difficult to manage it.
Consider the following example (from real situation):

I need to carry with me lots of plain ASCII text files (info files,
Unix manual pages, emails, source and configuration files etc...). Just
to give some numbers , consider the example of about 8000 files within
500 directories requiring 200 MBof memory. The whole tree of information
can be zipped (or tar-gzipped) within a unique file sized 16MB.
Working on the zip file, I'd like to be able to:

- open and read any of the 8000 files
- search files by name
- search files containing a given string

If I had a Zaurus, this would be easy by combining with pipes commands
such as tar, gzip , find , grep etc...

With PalmOS, it's more difficult. I've tried several compression
programs but all of them failed to open the big zip file (a lot of them
also crashed my Clie requiring a soft restart). I think (but I'm not
sure) that using DOC readers (ie converting in some way the 8000 files
and putting them in a unique DOC file of 16 Mb) also leads to same
results.
I know, Palms are not thinked to manage such big amounts of datas, but
it's also true that the hardware I bought (200 Mhz processor, 32 Mb of
ram, 256 Mb of memory of memory card) it's good enough to manage it....
it's a software problem...


How PalmOS can manage such a situation? Any idea?

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"A. Gaggero" <wwwjesterit@yahoo.com> wrote in news:41120265.C36F1792
@yahoo.com:

> Palms equipped with external memory card allow to carry with you a lot
> of information....
> ... but when size of information grows it's difficult to manage it.
> Consider the following example (from real situation):
>
> I need to carry with me lots of plain ASCII text files (info files,
> Unix manual pages, emails, source and configuration files etc...). Just
> to give some numbers , consider the example of about 8000 files within
> 500 directories requiring 200 MBof memory. The whole tree of information
> can be zipped (or tar-gzipped) within a unique file sized 16MB.
> Working on the zip file, I'd like to be able to:
>
> - open and read any of the 8000 files
> - search files by name
> - search files containing a given string
>
> If I had a Zaurus, this would be easy by combining with pipes commands
> such as tar, gzip , find , grep etc...
>
> With PalmOS, it's more difficult. I've tried several compression
> programs but all of them failed to open the big zip file (a lot of them
> also crashed my Clie requiring a soft restart). I think (but I'm not
> sure) that using DOC readers (ie converting in some way the 8000 files
> and putting them in a unique DOC file of 16 Mb) also leads to same
> results.
> I know, Palms are not thinked to manage such big amounts of datas, but
> it's also true that the hardware I bought (200 Mhz processor, 32 Mb of
> ram, 256 Mb of memory of memory card) it's good enough to manage it....
> it's a software problem...
>
>
> How PalmOS can manage such a situation? Any idea?

Do all the files HAVE to be in one zip? I think you would be better off,
regardless of the OS, using more zips with fewer files in each, and you
wouldn't need a lot more space. Putting 8000 files in one zip just doesn't
make a lot of sense to me. It works, albeit slowly, on Windows because you
have the entire hard disk to use as virtual memory. On a Palm, you don't
have a hard disk, only the installed memory and the SD card. Card
transfers are very slow, especially compared to HD access, so using the
card for virtual memory isn't really a viable option. Thus, trying to open
a zip file that is larger than the installed memory, especially when
unzipped, is asking for problems. Trying to search this big zip isn't
impossible, but it will take a long, long time, because of the slow card
access.

I don't think this is a software issue, it's a hardware issue. You're
expecting far too much.

--
Regards,

Stan

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On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 11:48:21 +0200, "A. Gaggero" <wwwjesterit@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Palms equipped with external memory card allow to carry with you a lot
>of information....
>... but when size of information grows it's difficult to manage it.
>Consider the following example (from real situation):
>
<snip>
>
>How PalmOS can manage such a situation? Any idea?

Suggest you look at TiBR Pro
http://www.indevsoftware.com/products/tibr/tibr_pro/
which converts texts into discrete documents in zTXT format with much
better compression than PalmDOC.

If you can search across all documents with SuperFinderHack
http://home.columbus.rr.com/nevai/palm/
or the equivalent, then you'd have what you wanted.

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This post quad-ROT-13 encrypted; reading it violates the DMCA.
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