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June 8, 2008 9:32:07 PM

Okay I tried searching the forums for anything on this CPU and don't see many people using it. I thinking about getting but don't know any benchmarks when it comes to gaming , video editing, etc. I saw on one comparsion chart that it was actually slower than the 6400+. Has anyone tried to overclock? Could anyone point me in the right direction to get some comparsion charts or anything on this CPU.

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June 8, 2008 10:40:50 PM

Everything that I've read so far indicates that the X3 Phenoms are about worthless. The older X2 AM2 chips go faster in anything accept a few apps. Even then, it falls on its face when compared to even the cheapest quads. If you want any halfway decent performance from a Phenom, you need one of the higher rated X4s, preferably a 9850 BE.
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June 9, 2008 3:07:32 AM

All pretty harsh responses. From the tests I've seen, three core Phenoms perform almost as well as four core processors (as most apps are not threaded well enough to take advantage of all four cores). While the clock speed of the 8750 is slower than the fastest X2s, the 8750 ought to overclock reasonably well.
The main problem is that the tri-core Phenoms cost too much. $87 for a 5000+BE that I can overclock to 3.1 or 3.2MHZ or over $150 for an 8750? I'll take the X2.
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June 9, 2008 3:15:34 AM

But they dont overclock well, they use just about the same amount of power as the quads, Anybody that buys a x3 needs there head examined. Which is why hardly almost nobody on the forums actually has one. The x3s as far as i remeber are all the old B2's as well.

June 9, 2008 3:23:51 AM

someguy7 99% of ALL computer components are purchased by consumers that know NOTHING when it comes to the parts they buy.

all they want to know is

screen size
speed of processor
hard drive size
amount of ram
and does it glow blue.........


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June 9, 2008 3:33:37 AM

I agree, but the topic and discussion in this thread isnt about those folks. Everybody has told to the OP to stay away from the X3's. My fault on the people that need to get head checked out, i was thinking about the average person on the forums or just the normal person that actually looks into what they are buying. Not the masses that just pick out some prebuilt(or have some dunce at a retail store sell them crap) machine.
June 9, 2008 4:11:03 AM

here it is plain and simple

skrew x3 phenoms and all low end x4 phenoms

its only about the 9850 BE phenom

or just get a x2 6400 BE because its gonna kicked all other phenoms asses

June 9, 2008 5:35:58 AM

someguy7 said:
But they dont overclock well, they use just about the same amount of power as the quads, Anybody that buys a x3 needs there head examined. Which is why hardly almost nobody on the forums actually has one. The x3s as far as i remeber are all the old B2's as well.

No, they are not all B2 stepping. ANY phenom that ends in "50" is B3, so 8x50 and 9x50 are B3.
June 9, 2008 6:22:40 AM

macer1 said:
someguy7 99% of ALL computer components are purchased by consumers that know NOTHING when it comes to the parts they buy.

all they want to know is

screen size
speed of processor
hard drive size
amount of ram
and does it glow blue.........


Mine doesn't glow blue :( .........It glows red :) 

Anyway, like everyone else here I'd stay FAR away from anything thats tri core. Save up a bit more money and get a "true" quad core. (or a q6600 and you'll be way happier)
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June 9, 2008 8:56:24 AM

^ OP If you shop around you can find the B2 Phenoms for less than the Tri-core B3 Phenoms and at higher clockspeeds. I'm sure that you don't mind the B2 bug... its almost impossible to reproduce in the desktop environment... It's that or get a Athlon X2 or a Core 2 or better still wait...
June 9, 2008 7:13:15 PM

I've got a phenom X4 9550 on my old AM2 board, and I'm pretty happy with it, it blew my old X2 4200. They are both clocked at 2.2Ghz. In single threaded apps, the phenom is like 20% more or less in encoding at least. Here are my results as I posted earlier on another thread:

TMPGEnc 5000 frames Xvid (virtual dub as frameserver)
Athlon X2:

1 threads...133s
2 threads...71s

Phenom X4:

1 threads...108s
2 threads...55s
3 threads...50s
4 threads...50s

Phenom X4
2 instances of TMPGEnc + 2 instances of Virtual dub:

1 threads...207s
2 threads...106s
3 threads...79s
4 threads...59s

Just don't look at the "4 threads" option if you are going Phenom X3. I would recommend the X4 instead, mine got perfectly stable at 2.7Ghz.
In any case I think the Q6600 would be a much better buy, but in my case I would had to buy another motherboard and video card.
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June 9, 2008 9:16:55 PM

I could have sworn that all the X3s where the B2's all well, I'll take your word for it. But as of right now I truthfully could care less cause they are crap. I knew all the X4s that ended in 50s where the B3s just thaught I recalled reading the reviews then X3s where about to hit that they were the B2s.
June 10, 2008 1:41:01 AM

the initial distribution of x3 to oem's was b2. all retail are b3.
June 10, 2008 3:46:38 PM

Thanks for the feedback. What about the 9750 vs the 6400+? I wanna stick with AMD because overall I can build a cheaper system that can be upgraded later (thanks onboard graphics).Which proc is better in terms of gaming and future endurance. Can the 9750 be easily overclocked to match stock speeds of the 6400+?
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June 11, 2008 1:17:32 AM

The only Phenom I would get myself is the 9850BE. In most older games the 6400 will do better. In some newer games that take advantage of 4 cores the x4 will do just a little better. Dont fall for the hype that AMD is so easy to upgrade. They have kept the same socket but that doesnt mean the new cpus will work(alot of times its the mobo makers not making new BIOS's). There are some boards made for the phenoms that dont run the current top x4 due to the power draw or something.

Also if your building a gaming machine AMDs on board gpus are crap. They are loads better then intels, but if your building a machine to play games then your going to want a seperate GPU most likely. Depends on the game
June 11, 2008 5:49:36 AM

someguy7 said:
The only Phenom I would get myself is the 9850BE. In most older games the 6400 will do better. In some newer games that take advantage of 4 cores the x4 will do just a little better. Dont fall for the hype that AMD is so easy to upgrade. They have kept the same socket but that doesnt mean the new cpus will work(alot of times its the mobo makers not making new BIOS's). There are some boards made for the phenoms that dont run the current top x4 due to the power draw or something.


i think that the issue is that some mobo dont support the full 125watt processors, but the lower 95watt phenoms can be upgraded with a bios update.
June 11, 2008 5:50:55 AM

you can check with the mobo make if it supports the 9850 or other 125 watt phenoms
July 11, 2008 9:25:13 AM

sailer said:
Everything that I've read so far indicates that the X3 Phenoms are about worthless. The older X2 AM2 chips go faster in anything accept a few apps. Even then, it falls on its face when compared to even the cheapest quads. If you want any halfway decent performance from a Phenom, you need one of the higher rated X4s, preferably a 9850 BE.


I'm not so sure of that. It does better than the cheaper Phenom's most of the time. It's a good budget solution over a 9600 at Newegg. I have yet to buy a CPU for the Gigabyte 780G board I picked up a month ago, but when I do, it will probably be an 8750:

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/amd_phenom_x3_8...
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July 11, 2008 5:30:08 PM

rdawise said:
Thanks for the feedback. What about the 9750 vs the 6400+? I wanna stick with AMD because overall I can build a cheaper system that can be upgraded later (thanks onboard graphics).Which proc is better in terms of gaming and future endurance. Can the 9750 be easily overclocked to match stock speeds of the 6400+?


If you need a quad
AMD Phenom 9600 Agena 2.3GHz Socket AM2+ 95W: $135 with code EMCAHBABH
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


For dual core snag a X2 6000+ (or better yet an X2 5400+ and OC it to 3.1-3.2GHz)
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