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Hi, i really hope someone can help me with this because this is driving me crazy.

Just to mention, i'm an IT Tech and this is one of the weirdest problems i've encountered...

I've got a problem with my computer recently. I have 4GB of ram and i keep getting random BSOD while working in Windows(either in XP 64 or Vista x64). The errors are either 0x00000007F or 0x00000007A

i did a Memtest v2.01 with a Boot CD with 1GB at the time, in each of my 4 memory slots for 1 hours each, no errors. I did a Memtest with 2GB in random slots for 7 hours, no errors, i did another Memtest with the other 2GB for 18 hours, no errors.

As soon as i put the 4GB together, Memtest gives error codes...

Before, i had the 4GB and had no problems, this suddently started to happen. I even lended my memory to my friend so he could test it and he got no problems.

I don't understand why if i put 2GB in any of the 4 ram slots, it always works, as soon as i put back 4gb, BSOD and errors ...

Anyone has any idea ?

(i have all the lastest drivers and firmwares, i tried to reset the Bios multiple times and reprogram it, i've left everything on Auto, OC 0%)

btw here are my specs:

CPU: Q6600 Core2Quad 2.4
Video: EVGA 9800gx2 1GB
MOBO: XFX Nvidia 680i SLI
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 4x1GB DDR2-1066 5-5-5-15
HDD: Raptor 10k 150GB
PSU: Corsair HX620W


Message edited by xblackdemonx on 07-04-2008 at 02:06:20 PM

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CPU: Q6600 Core2Quad 2.4 Video: EVGA 9800gx2 1GB;)
MOBO: XFX Nvidia 680i SLI Memory: Crucial Ballistix 4x1GB DDR2-1066 5-5-5-15
HDD: Raptor 10k 150GB PSU: Corsair HX620W

 

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On what ram settings did you encounter errors in memtest?

680i has a tendency to overheat the northbridge & memory controller. You can see the NB temp in bios & Windows. I assume your board is out of warranty. So you might wanna reapply TIM on NB, mosfets & maybe SB. There's a thread on how at:

http://www.evga.com/community/mess [...] aultmb.asp

Oh and you can't leave everything on auto with 4 1066mhz sticks. You need to up vdimm to at least 2.1v and maybe lower your ram speed to 800 or even 533mhz which is the stock speed with Q6600 (9x266). At lower speed, 4 sticks will work perfect. At rated speed, it may need some tweaking.

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Up your memory voltage a bit. Ive something about nvidia chipsets and memory errors, but i think that was with overclocking
edit: ^too late


Message edited by Blackwidow_rsa on 07-04-2008 at 02:25:39 PM
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Its probably a timing issue, try relaxing the timings for 4GB


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Filling all four slots on a motherboard often brings on these kinds of errors.
Try relaxing timings, slowing memory bus speed (say from 800 to 667) and make sure voltage is at mfg spec. Upping the Northbridge voltage has also been known to help in some cases.

Consult your MOBO manual and see if there are any special instructions for filling four slots.


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With some boards you need to add +0.1(i needed a bit more to squeeze my old DDR2 667 sticks to work with 4 sticks) extra to run 4 sticks. Give it a try, 0.1 will not hurt anything.

 


Also 1066 is kind of hard on the board for little to no gains try 800 or even lower. Only try this if a voltage bump does not work.


Message edited by nukemaster on 07-04-2008 at 03:06:37 PM

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http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/4269/inukexz9.png
http://tinyurl.com/26uxxb - Core2 Temp Guide? http://tinyurl.com/cj3pw - VGA power use?
http://tinyurl.com/5v55wk - Core2 Memory performance? http://tinyurl.com/6pmbke - SLI/Xfire?
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Also 4 memory chips puts more strain on the northbridge should you might need a bit of extra volts and probably extra cooling for the northbridge.

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Thanks a lot everyone for your suggestions, i will try that tonight :D


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CPU: Q6600 Core2Quad 2.4 Video: EVGA 9800gx2 1GB;)
MOBO: XFX Nvidia 680i SLI Memory: Crucial Ballistix 4x1GB DDR2-1066 5-5-5-15
HDD: Raptor 10k 150GB PSU: Corsair HX620W

 

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I tried with +0.1v and it didn`t work (with timings on auto)
ill try to mess around with the timings...


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CPU: Q6600 Core2Quad 2.4 Video: EVGA 9800gx2 1GB;)
MOBO: XFX Nvidia 680i SLI Memory: Crucial Ballistix 4x1GB DDR2-1066 5-5-5-15
HDD: Raptor 10k 150GB PSU: Corsair HX620W

 

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drop the speed. As said 1066 is harder on the chipset. if it runs at 800 then you can try 1066 with a bit more voltage on the chipset.


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http://tinyurl.com/26uxxb - Core2 Temp Guide? http://tinyurl.com/cj3pw - VGA power use?
http://tinyurl.com/5v55wk - Core2 Memory performance? http://tinyurl.com/6pmbke - SLI/Xfire?
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Wow ... i just found this on a forum by pure hazard

My MOBO manufacturer found the following Microsoft 'fix' (maybe) for this problem:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929777

that addresses the IRQL_NOT_LESS_THAN_OR_EQUAL problem on machines running Vista (64 bit) and trying to use more than 3Gb.

It seems that Vista has a problem itself addressing more than 3Gb memory. Will let you know if this fixes it...

i installed the patch and for now it seems to have booted Vista (which didn`t work with 4gb before) was this all because of a stupid M$ issue :S

i'm gonna do some more tests to see if it works for good...


Message edited by xblackdemonx on 07-05-2008 at 06:51:09 PM

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CPU: Q6600 Core2Quad 2.4 Video: EVGA 9800gx2 1GB;)
MOBO: XFX Nvidia 680i SLI Memory: Crucial Ballistix 4x1GB DDR2-1066 5-5-5-15
HDD: Raptor 10k 150GB PSU: Corsair HX620W

 

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Do you have vista SP1?

 

I have 8 gigs on vista 64 without issues. and i installed it that way(but my DVD had SP1 on it)

 

EDIT, well i do not meet the requirments

 

This problem occurs if the following conditions are true:
%u2022 The computer uses more than 3 GB of RAM.
%u2022 The computer uses a storage system that is running the Storport miniport driver. <-----
%u2022 The computer uses a controller that uses 32-bit direct memory access (DMA).


Message edited by nukemaster on 07-05-2008 at 06:51:38 PM

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http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/4269/inukexz9.png
http://tinyurl.com/26uxxb - Core2 Temp Guide? http://tinyurl.com/cj3pw - VGA power use?
http://tinyurl.com/5v55wk - Core2 Memory performance? http://tinyurl.com/6pmbke - SLI/Xfire?
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no i dont have SP1


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CPU: Q6600 Core2Quad 2.4 Video: EVGA 9800gx2 1GB;)
MOBO: XFX Nvidia 680i SLI Memory: Crucial Ballistix 4x1GB DDR2-1066 5-5-5-15
HDD: Raptor 10k 150GB PSU: Corsair HX620W

 

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Why not? is is supposed to fix allot of problems related to software and drivers that do not quite like vista.


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http://tinyurl.com/26uxxb - Core2 Temp Guide? http://tinyurl.com/cj3pw - VGA power use?
http://tinyurl.com/5v55wk - Core2 Memory performance? http://tinyurl.com/6pmbke - SLI/Xfire?
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Just a couple of comments:

1. Did you ever get memtest (Bootable disk) to work, If NOT - hold off on playing with operating system UNTIL you get memory problem solved. Mem errors can cause wierd problems inside of operating system such as corrupting your HD and even your BIOS.

2. As motherdude pointed out I would try upping your FSB and (g)MCH voltage by +0.1 V ( I assume you are already runing at manf spec on Ram)

I'm running 4 x 1 Gig DDR2 800. Two get the 2nd two sticks to work I had to up both voltages for stability. Tried with only one at a time - No Dice.

3. Once you get bootable memtest to work, Then nukemaster excellent advice, use SP1. Then run prime95 (I used orthos - Have dual core) to reverify memory. Ran short test (1 to 2 hrs ) with memtest, No errors; BUT had errors within 7 to 13 mins using orthos.


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