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Tonight Ross and I were in the office at our PCs, and I
happened to notice the connection speed posted in the little
window, and I commented that we were FLYING along.

He asked how much faster, compared to dial-up. So I said,
well, a normal connection on dial-up was 33,200bps, and since
we're currently connected at 100Mbps, we are now *300*
times faster than dial-up!

Was I correct?

Mega equals 1000, right?
So 33,200 bits is roughly 1/3 of a Megabit, right?

Or have I quarked off to Confusion Land again?



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all i know is that kilo is a 1000.

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"Miracle Smith" <miracle@spamcop.net> wrote in news:42aaa947_5
@galaxy.uncensored-news.com:

> Mega equals 1000, right?
> So 33,200 bits is roughly 1/3 of a Megabit, right?
>
> Or have I quarked off to Confusion Land again?

Slightly:

1,000,000 / 30,000 is about 30, not 3.

> He asked how much faster, compared to dial-up. So I said,
> well, a normal connection on dial-up was 33,200bps, and since
> we're currently connected at 100Mbps, we are now *300*
> times faster than dial-up!

100 Mbps? I suspect that's a typo. My cable modem just got upgraded to 4
Mbps, and 6 is available for more money. DSL is typical 1-8 Mbps. A hard-
wired Ethernet connection is usually 100 Mbps. (But the original Ethernet
was 10 Mbps, and you can now get 1000 Mbps (Gigabit) cards. (New mobos
tend to come with gigabit NIC's built in.) Wireless comes in several
flavors, of which the most common is 802.11b (11 Mbps) and 802.11g (54
Mbps with a fallback to "b" mode). There are also proprietary extensions
to the "g" that use two channels to double the rate to 108 Mbps.
(Wireless networks run at the speed of the slowest node, so if you add a
b node to a g network, all the g cards drop down to 11 Mbps.)

kbps = 1000 bits per second
Mbps = 1,000,000 bits per second
With a capital "B" that changes to bytes per second, so multiply by 8
bits per byte.

So what's the smallest pipe between you and the Internet? That's probably
the connection from your neighbor to his ISP.

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On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 10:02:42 -0500, ScratchMonkey
<ScratchMonkey.blacklist@sewingwitch.com> wrote:

>"Miracle Smith" <miracle@spamcop.net> wrote in news:42aaa947_5
>@galaxy.uncensored-news.com:
>
>> Mega equals 1000, right?
>> So 33,200 bits is roughly 1/3 of a Megabit, right?
>>
>> Or have I quarked off to Confusion Land again?
>
>Slightly:
>
>1,000,000 / 30,000 is about 30, not 3.
>
>> He asked how much faster, compared to dial-up. So I said,
>> well, a normal connection on dial-up was 33,200bps, and since
>> we're currently connected at 100Mbps, we are now *300*
>> times faster than dial-up!
>
>100 Mbps? I suspect that's a typo. My cable modem just got upgraded to 4
>Mbps, and 6 is available for more money. DSL is typical 1-8 Mbps. A hard-
>wired Ethernet connection is usually 100 Mbps. (But the original Ethernet
>was 10 Mbps, and you can now get 1000 Mbps (Gigabit) cards. (New mobos
>tend to come with gigabit NIC's built in.) Wireless comes in several
>flavors, of which the most common is 802.11b (11 Mbps) and 802.11g (54
>Mbps with a fallback to "b" mode). There are also proprietary extensions
>to the "g" that use two channels to double the rate to 108 Mbps.
>(Wireless networks run at the speed of the slowest node, so if you add a
>b node to a g network, all the g cards drop down to 11 Mbps.)
>
>kbps = 1000 bits per second
>Mbps = 1,000,000 bits per second
>With a capital "B" that changes to bytes per second, so multiply by 8
>bits per byte.
>
>So what's the smallest pipe between you and the Internet? That's probably
>the connection from your neighbor to his ISP.

Very well put, Scratch. I have this conversation with people from time
to time when helping them decide to upgrade. It's always a
head-scratching affair for the new or uninitiated user.

At one point I had written up a spreadsheet on my PDA so I could liken
it to printed novels. "You're getting 1.6 pages a second currently
with this POTS connection, but if you go with this solution, you'll be
pulling down four and a half 1,000 page novels a minute.." Ah!

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Adrian Ng wrote:
> all i know is that kilo is a 1000.

Well, that's a start! ;)

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ScratchMonkey wrote, snipped for brevity:
> A hard- wired Ethernet connection is usually 100 Mbps.

Oh hell, I'm sorry- both of the desktops *are* hard-wired
to the modem/receiver thingy.


>Wireless comes in several flavors, of which the most common is
> 802.11b (11 Mbps) and 802.11g (54 Mbps with a fallback to "b" mode).
> There are also proprietary extensions to the "g" that use two
> channels to double the rate to 108 Mbps. (Wireless networks run at
> the speed of the slowest node, so if you add a b node to a g network,
> all the g cards drop down to 11 Mbps.)

We are using "g" in *everything*, both at Allen's and at our house.

> kbps = 1000 bits per second
> Mbps = 1,000,000 bits per second
> With a capital "B" that changes to bytes per second, so multiply by 8
> bits per byte.
>
> So what's the smallest pipe between you and the Internet? That's
> probably the connection from your neighbor to his ISP.

Gosh, I don't really know....Or, *remember* is more like it....

I think I posted it once. :o}



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Miracle Smith wrote:

>>So what's the smallest pipe between you and the Internet? That's
>>probably the connection from your neighbor to his ISP.
>
> Gosh, I don't really know....Or, *remember* is more like it....
>
> I think I posted it once. :o}

Go to http://www.broadbandreports.com/stest and run a few speed tests.
That'll tell you what you're really getting.

Try a few servers, since your speed between servers may vary due to
Internet congestion. For example, on the Los Angeles test server, I get
13857 down ann 1797 up, but on the Seattle server, I get 14402/1759.

--
Troy

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ScratchMonkey wrote:
> With a capital "B" that changes to bytes per second, so multiply by 8
> bits per byte.

Divide, don't multiply.

Carry on.
--
Frank

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Frank van Schie <frankNOSPAM@email.it> wrote in news:Td-
dnZcYOrAPbjDfRVnyhw@casema.nl:

> ScratchMonkey wrote:
>> With a capital "B" that changes to bytes per second, so multiply by 8
>> bits per byte.
>
> Divide, don't multiply.
>
> Carry on.

Or would that be borrow? :D

I probably stopped typing in the middle of a thought and intended to add
"... to get bits per second". What was I talking about, again? ;)

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Frank van Schie <frankNOSPAM@email.it> wrote in news:Td-
dnZQYOrC0bjDfRVnyhw@casema.nl:

>> Mega equals 1000, right?
>
> Negative. A million.
>
>> So 33,200 bits is roughly 1/3 of a Megabit, right?
>
> 1/3000th.

1/30

1,000,000 / 33,200 = 30.120

(according to Windows calculator.)

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On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:38:35 -0500, ScratchMonkey
<scratchmonkey.blacklist@sewingwitch.com> wrote:

>Frank van Schie <frankNOSPAM@email.it> wrote in news:Td-
>dnZcYOrAPbjDfRVnyhw@casema.nl:
>
>> ScratchMonkey wrote:
>>> With a capital "B" that changes to bytes per second, so multiply by 8
>>> bits per byte.
>>
>> Divide, don't multiply.
>>
>> Carry on.
>
>Or would that be borrow? :D

Conquer!

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Miracle Smith wrote:
> Oh, Troy just reminded us of http://www.broadbandreports.com/stest,
> which should work for you, should you need it. ;)

I meant American speedtest sites. For some reason they 'popular' ones
according to Google seem rather shitty.

We Dutch want to be sure we're getting the best connection, due to our
large desire to avoid uncertainty if possible I guess. So we've got
quite a few speed test sites that work with a single click.

Besides, speedtests need to be done from close to you, so you can check
your max speed. So I'm sticking to either speedtest.nl or
snelheidstest.nl :)
--
Frank

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