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May 21, 2008 7:17:55 PM

Sorry if this has been posted, but I couldn't find one like it with search...I'm planning on upgrading my video card(Currently 7800gt) for the newly released Age of Conan. I'm trying to decide between the two cards mentioned in the thread title.


Between the 9800GTX and 8800GTX which would you guys rather have for long term gaming? Both cards fit into my budget, so price doesn't matter, I have a really nice case with 3 250mm fans so overheating isn't a problem, I don't care about noise levels, and I don't overclock. I'm just interested in which card will give the best performance for the longest amount of time.


Thanks in advance!

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May 21, 2008 7:27:27 PM

The GTX280 (9900) is out June 18th Europe. Apparently it's single gpu not double. Which means it is significantly better. Oh, and it's 1 GB too.
May 21, 2008 7:59:32 PM

Wait for the Radeon 4870 and Nvidia GTX280....they're gonna be faster than either of the two cards mentioned for the same if not a lesser price.
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May 21, 2008 10:42:18 PM

If you need to pick, and are dying for to play, like I know you are, then get the ....8800GTS G92, which is way cheaper and performs the same than a 9800GTX. Between the two, I'd say opt for a 8800GTX because of the higher bandwith.
May 22, 2008 12:40:09 AM

Replying to Darth Piggie. I would also say go for the 8800GTX... but, I've never seen one perform. I've played Crysis using an Intel core 2 Duo 2.6ghz with an 8800GTS... and... I've played Crysis using an AMD 2.4ghz with an ati 3870... to my surprise... the AMD system ate the other one up. I was actually able to play at high setting with the 3870.. with the 8800gts... it was unplayable at high setting. So, from my experience... I'd say go with something in your price range.... 100-200... go for the 3870... 200-300... 9800gtx or, better yet two 3870's.... 300-500... two 9800gtx's... that's my suggestion.. but, I don't know what else is in your system. MoBo, cpu, etc. If you told me more, I could probably be of better help.
May 22, 2008 12:42:47 AM

lol, the title of the post should be "8800GTX = 9800GTX". Anyway, the only real difference is that the 9800GTX has a little bit higher clock speed (not signifigant enough to make a world of difference) and triple SLI support. Is it worth the extra 50 - 80 bucks to get the 9800? IMO probably not, but i suppose theres bragging rights to the 9800GTX.
May 22, 2008 12:51:54 AM

I would wait a few more weeks to see how the new cards perform against the older cards. If you can afford to spend 300+ and the 4870 is supposedly faster than the 9800gtx for about the same price, I would get the 4870. Normally I wouldn't suggest waiting, but we are close to new releases by both companies so it would be wise to wait a little while longer. Any card you get is going to be a big upgrade from your 7800gt.
a b U Graphics card
May 22, 2008 1:10:13 AM

Honestly IF you are not willing to wait till next month( GTX 280/260 and HD48xx) The 8800GTS G92 is your best bet, really.

Simply put the price of both of the GTX's are considerably higher for such small gains. and the 8 series GTX is beaten by a good GTS 512
May 22, 2008 1:52:04 AM

mastadonbiceps24 said:
Replying to Darth Piggie. I would also say go for the 8800GTX... but, I've never seen one perform. I've played Crysis using an Intel core 2 Duo 2.6ghz with an 8800GTS... and... I've played Crysis using an AMD 2.4ghz with an ati 3870... to my surprise... the AMD system ate the other one up. I was actually able to play at high setting with the 3870.. with the 8800gts... it was unplayable at high setting. So, from my experience... I'd say go with something in your price range.... 100-200... go for the 3870... 200-300... 9800gtx or, better yet two 3870's.... 300-500... two 9800gtx's... that's my suggestion.. but, I don't know what else is in your system. MoBo, cpu, etc. If you told me more, I could probably be of better help.

Statements like this will start a flame war again...by all means go find some"reliable"benchmarks to back your statement up!!!
May 22, 2008 5:06:00 AM

I have some fraps evidence to prove it, but other than that, just personal experience. That's all. I build computers for friends and have built a few for myself. You don't have to take my word for it. I'm defenately no an expert by any means. I was just going by what I saw and have experience working with. I was just giving a few suggestions for "throtic" so he/she can have a better understanding on what to choose.
May 22, 2008 6:05:00 AM

I built a new system last month, and did a LOT of reserach on this (there are probably a bunch of old threads full of questions)
Anyway, at the time the view was for the 8800 GTX (if it is comparable in price to the 8800 GTS), esp if you are going to start gaming at higher resolutions. I LOVE MY 8800 GTX!!!

Now, its probably very wise to wait and take a look at the new gen- but at the time I found a great deal on the GTX and had been waiting for ages, so went with it and will look at upgrading towards the end of the year, maybe!
May 22, 2008 7:15:38 AM

*slowly slides away from the group*

I pick the 9800GTX because I said so. And I have one, and I love it, and you will love it.

And if you're worried about "waiting" for the 9900's, just get a card now and step-up when the new ones come out. You wouldn't have wasted a penny :) 
May 22, 2008 2:33:16 PM

leo2kp said:
*slowly slides away from the group*

I pick the 9800GTX because I said so. And I have one, and I love it, and you will love it.

And if you're worried about "waiting" for the 9900's, just get a card now and step-up when the new ones come out. You wouldn't have wasted a penny :) 




So if I went with a 9800GTX(I always buy evga) today, would I be able to use the step-up program when the 9900's are released? I'm not sure how that program works, but it seems as though I should...



For whoever wanted to know, I'm using an E6600, 2gigs of Corsair ram, with a 700watt psu, using Windows XP.
a c 169 U Graphics card
May 22, 2008 2:52:11 PM

We had the same thread like this before:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/249833-15-force-880...

EMP:

You could also compare the EVGA 9800GTX ($330) vs the EVGA 8800GTX ($340 before rebate, $290 after rebate) and honestly even if I wasn't going to cash the rebate for whatever reason I'd still pick the 8800GTX.


From what I understand OC'ing the G92 does not net you the same performance benefits as OC'ing the G80 core (At least that's what I'm led to believe by some of the comments of G92 owners in this forum). The other thing that worries me a little about OC'ing these cards (That may or may not be fixed with the 9800GTX) is the fact that there were some strange problem going with the memory I believe when it was OC'ed past 2000 that affected the longevity of the card.


For what is worth, the 9800GTX is no doubt a great card (No matter how you look at it, it's a rehashed 8800GTS G92), however the 8800GTX still feels like the better "high end" package to me if you get what I mean. One thing that cannot be denied is that you will need a PSU for the G80 core to feast on, because they are power hungry.

Me:
Definitely agreed, the 768MB memory of 8800GTX helps it to beat the 9800GTX in higher resolutions

From tomshardware review:

So come on, Nvidia. Is this really the best you can do 17 months after the 8800 GTX?

Nvidia GeForce 9800 GTX: A card that's almost as fast as the 8800 Ultra at a much lower price is a good thing. But a year and a half after the release of the GeForce 8 series, and even though AMD doesn't really have anything that can go head to head with this card, we'd have liked a little more punch to replace the 8800 GTX with (which is also now being sold for under $400). What we got instead was a card that's very noisy under load and limited by a stingy 512 MB of memory. These drawbacks are especially disappointing given that the 8800 GTS 512 MB is very similar and less expensive.

+ Performance close to that of the 8800 Ultra at half the price / Support for HybridPower (with compatible motherboards) - Noisy under load / Only 512 MB of memory / Not different enough from the 8800 GTS 512 MB, 8800 GTX and Ultra, although they're previous-generation cards and often less expensive


May 22, 2008 6:48:25 PM

Its just that the price of the 9800gtx is too high...if it were say $230 then it would be quite worth the buy.
May 23, 2008 1:56:15 PM

I just bought a 9800GTX from Newegg for $285, -$30 rebate = $255
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