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my first computer gaming rig under 1000 plz help

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May 12, 2008 3:06:32 AM

I CURRENTLY have this for a list but I dunno if I should go for the Intel or the AMD build... and ya... heres my AMD one I currently don't have an Intel one.. so.. could sum1 look at it and give me suggestions or whatever edits you think I should do? it's currently under 850 I dont need to buy a monitor or keyboard and etc. And I'm trying to be able to play "Crysis"

someone please help me get an item number for a good cheap power supply for the case and everything. Also I can't tell whether or not I should get the case WITH the power Supply or... a case without powersupply so I could just buy my own 600Watt PS instead of the 500w

heres the two cases I'm looking at

+++Item #: N82E16811156188 AND ++++++ item #: N82E16811156099+++++++++++++++

Here's the list of supplies I'm going to try buying but could someone check it ll out and tell me if I should buy all this? I'm trying to get a good computer nd have good cooling with everything and save money so I'm not buying it from the stores and I'm going to build it on my own with the help of my computer teacher

HP 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black IDE Model dvd1040i - Retail
Item #: N82E16827140025

RAIDMAX SMILODON ATX-612WB Black SECC STEEL ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Item #: N82E16811156063

RAIDMAX AZTEC ATX-619WY Black/ Yellow SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Item #: N82E16811156188

Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500AAKS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Item #: N82E16822136161

ASUS M2N-E AM2 NVIDIA nForce 570 Ultra MCP ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813131022

ECS N9600GT-512MX EDM GeForce 9600GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
Item #: N82E16814134038

OCZ StealthXStream OCZ600SXS 600W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply
Item #: N82E16817341010

A-DATA 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model ADQVE1B16K
Item #: N82E16820211188

AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400+ Windsor 3.2GHz Socket AM2 125W Dual-Core Processor Model ADX6400CZBOX
Item #: N82E16819103228
May 12, 2008 3:24:31 AM

Avoid cases with power supplies. They are generally cheap PSUs that fail within 6 months-ish under medium/heavy load. If you are a gamer or plan to OC your system you want a good quality PSU. Also, as of now, Intel is slightly better in the performance for the price area, so you may want to look into an Intel build for now.
May 12, 2008 3:24:53 AM

If your gonna go AMD get a AM2+ Mobo. Everyone else will say go Intel, and so would I but someone needs to spend money on AMD to keep them alive.
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May 12, 2008 3:24:57 AM

Few things that jump out- one Raidmax is trash, avoid it. It is often much better to purchase a case and PSU separately. Most PSUs that come with cases are not very good.

The PSU you have selected is not bad however. Just look at another case like Antec or Coolermaster.

Unless you are going to purchase a 64-bit OS there is not really any reason to buy 4GB of RAM. RAM is super cheap though, so nothing really wrong with it, just your OS won't be able to use it all.

Go Intel unless this is an absolute budget build- AMD just cannot keep up right now.
May 12, 2008 3:29:43 AM

Trash the 9600GT. You can grab an EVGA 8800GT 512 G92 off Newegg right now for 159 after MIR.

8800GT > 9600GT no contest.

Grab the regular clocked 8800gt and OC it yourself. Save some money, boost performance.
May 12, 2008 3:33:24 AM

Change the burner to SH-S203B, or some other SATA model, not IDE.

If you can find a little more cash upgrade to 8800GTS 512MB, it's worth it.

The rest is fine, no worries.
May 12, 2008 11:13:20 PM

ok so... once I look up the other recommendations I'll reply another list here so til then I'll just work on look up the products and also... could anyone post item numbers of whatever replacements? it would help me figure out what to buy and stuff A LOT FASTER! lol so ya... plz? and thank you for all ur responses I'm a n00b at this so... ya... my old computer just randomly stopped working one day and thne after 2 days it worked again... randomly.. so I took that as a sign, that I needed to get a new computer and my friends suggested that I build one cause it'd be cheaper. So thnk you all for your suggestions =D and could you still help

ALSO since I'm a n00b with computers still, I'm not gonig to be overcloaking or using SLI.
May 14, 2008 1:13:40 AM

Overclocking is so easy even a n00b can do it, and it is free performance. You ought to give it a whirl :) 
May 14, 2008 2:43:17 AM

Stick with the AMD if you not planing to overclock. You won't regreat it. For case go with Antec 900 and PSU CORSAIR CMPSU-550VX 550W ATX12V. For mobo go with one of the AM2+ as it supports Phenom. Good luck
May 14, 2008 10:44:19 AM

well I still dont fully understand how to overclock.... and y cant AMD overcloak?
May 14, 2008 1:37:29 PM

Yes you can overclock AMD processors. It's just that Intel processors are better at it.
May 15, 2008 12:42:58 AM

well.. could someone explin how ot overclock... I never knew wht it was until I started looking up parts and I red reviews about Overclocking... so ya..
May 15, 2008 12:46:38 AM

On an Intel processor the easy way to overclock is just to simply raise the Front Side Bus.

Example Q6600 is rated at 2400MHz. This is FSB1066 (266 x4) with a multiplier of 9. So 266 x 9 gives you 2400MHz.

So if you were to raise the FSB to say 333 (FSB1333) the clock rate is now 3.0GHz. Raise it to FSB1600 and its 3.6GHz. Boom, overclocked you are ;) 

Yes I know this is vastly oversimplified explanation that does not take into account vcore and other factors, but it gives the OP an idea.
May 16, 2008 12:56:28 AM

ok thank you O and does anyone know anything about oil cooling I've been reading forums on oil cooling and I want to try doing that but I dunno if it would lower the life span of some components...
May 23, 2008 3:15:18 AM

Ya I posted a comment on that too but no1 replied me so ya...
June 18, 2008 12:43:20 AM

Forget any type of Fancy Cooling.
It's really not necessary.

Just get yourself a nice Aftermarket Cooler.

Overclocking Intel CPUs is so simple currently, that I don't even consider it Overlocking to a certain point. At least not like it was a few years ago.
Now it's really a matter of nowing a few basic proper BIOS settings.

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