New Quad Core System

Hello

I was not able to reply to my old thread.

So I had to create a new one.

Here are the specs I came up with:

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/CyberPower_Gamer_Infinity_8800_Pro_SE/d

CASE: CoolerMaster Cosmos S Gaming Full Tower 420W Case w/ Transparent Side Panel

CPU: (Quad-Core)Intel® Core™ 2 Quad Q9300 @ 2.5GHz 1333FSB 6MB L2 Cache 64-bit

MOTHERBOARD: (QX9650 Support) Asus P5N-D nForce 750i SLI Chipset LGA775 FSB1333 DDR2 Mainboard

MEMORY: (Req.DDR2 MainBoard)2GB (2x1GB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory (Corsair or Major Brand)

VIDEO CARD: NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT 1GB 16X PCI Express (EVGA Powered by NVIDIA)

HARD DRIVE: Single Hard Drive (500GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD)

POWER SUPPLY: CoolerMaster Unit 600 Watts eXtreme Power - SLI Supports

COOLING FAN: CoolerMaster Liquid CPU Cooling System (Superior Cooling Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA)


How does this sound ? Do I need to change any parts ?

The Total comes up to $1125.00
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  1. Get the Corsair 650W power supply and 4GB of memory, if you can.
    Corsair power supplies are highly rated.
    You need a DVD-RW.
  2. Hello evon

    I have a Plextor DVD-RW. It works fine so I dont think i need a new one.

    Alright, is this fine

    650 Watts Power Supplies(Corsair CMPSU-650TX - Quad SLI Ready)[+0]
  3. Also, is Quad Core Q9300 good or Q9660

    or should i go with Dual Core

    I mainly need it for Multi Tasking.


    Note:
    I am not able to edit my posts, I dont know why
  4. The q9300 should be good, the Q9660 is overpriced. Also do you plan on playing any games? Because the 9600gt 1gb is joke and will only make a difference at really high resolutions, get the 512mb version.
  5. Hello Shadow

    I dont play game that much, only occasionally. once in a month or two.

    Mainly, i use my comp for Multi Tasking.

    How about
    NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT 512MB 16X PCI Express

    Should i go with 9 Series or 8 Series of nVidia ?
  6. Shadow of Dawn said:
    The q9300 should be good, the Q9660 is overpriced. Also do you plan on playing any games? Because the 9600gt 1gb is joke and will only make a difference at really high resolutions, get the 512mb version.


    Overpriced? I guess that depend on where you live. In the US they can be had for $180 ( http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0287043 ) vs. the 9300's $280 ( http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0286544 ).

    I'd say the 9300 is overpriced considering you can get a 9450 for $300 ( http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0287628 ) eh?
  7. NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT 512MB 16X PCI Express

    Should be fine for you.
  8. Hello

    Then which one should I go for.

    Q9300 or Q9450

    I checked my local computer stores(United Arab Emirates) and here are the prices I am getting:

    Quad Core Q9300 = $283.00

    Dual Core E8500 = $296.00

    Casing (ThermalTake Armor) = $231.00

    Graphics : nVidia 9600 GT 512 MB = $183.00

    Graphics : nVidia 9600 GT 1 Gb = $299.00

    Graphics : nVidia 9800 GX2 1 Gb = $762.00

    Memory : 1 GB Crosair = $27.00
  9. Case: Are you paying for TWO Power Supplies? The 420W in the Cosmos Tower and the Corsair 650W. What less expensive options do you like?
    Motherboard: This SLI motherboard is much more than you need.
    RAM: 4GB is an inexpensive upgrade.
    Power Supply: The 600W eXtreme Power with SLI support want a popular choice. But a good 450W PSU (Corsair 450VX?) would be fine.
    Cooling Fan: How much is that option costing you? If you're arent going to overclock its not a good price performance option. And it's "Extreme Silent" claim means little since the ordinary fan cooler noise is very slight and lost in the PSU and video card fan noise (also fairly quiet when not gaming).

    Are you actually planning on buying from CyberPower or just using the site to configure and price systems?
  10. I think ill have to get the remaining parts from USA.

    expecially the
    CASE: CoolerMaster Cosmos S Gaming Full Tower 420W Case w/ Transparent Side Panel

    and Motherboard

    Which motherboard should i opt for ?
  11. Those are very good prices.

    Q9300 and 9600GT/512 should be plenty of CPU and video card power.

    ThermalTake Armor is a BIG case and also expensive for your total budget.
    Can you find a case you like for about $80 and a PSU 450Watts for about the same?
  12. Hello WR2

    I am just checking the price systems. I have to buy individual pieces, some from USA which are not available in UAE.

    I am buying 1 GB X 2 DD2 Corsair rams.

    So which Power supply should I go for. The one in CoolerMaster or seperate 600 Watts
  13. I'd go for:

    E8400/Q9300
    Corsair 650TX (build quality, etc)
    9600GT 512MB (the premium for the 1GB will never be justified)
    4GB of good brand ram (OCZ, G SKill, Corsair, AData, Crucial)

    Edit: I'd opt NOT to get the CM PSU.
  14. Hello Kyle

    So I should i a seperate PSU from the one which comes in a Case.

    Which casing should I buy ?

    Also should I buy Q9300 or Q9450. I think Q9450 lets you overclock it better than Q9300
  15. Im having a very hard time figuring out the actual cost of items on the CyberPower website. They only sell you complete systems - not individual parts.

    Am I right in thinking you very much want a case that looks like the CoolerMaster Cosmos? Red LED Fans and all?
  16. Hello

    I just want a case which would support all the parts and has enough room.

    Any good casing will do. i dont care about the lighting, but its in there, then :)
  17. Hello

    Which Motherboard should I go for ?

    As someone suggested that I dont need SLI, so I think ill leave that.

    So which motherboard is good without SLI.

    Also, should I buy eVGA Graphics 9600 GT 512 mb Card or regular nVidia
  18. I think you plan on buying the individual parts and having them sent to Aramex Shipping for final shipment to you in the UAE?
    I don't have any experiance with freight fowarding companies or have any inside information on what US companies will ship to them.
    But I did notice the Aramex Shop&Ship mailbox option! [:wr2:5] Aramex Shop & Ship

    Im going to suggest a different website since its much easier to view the individual prices for parts instead of the bundle of parts @ CyberPowerPC
    It's also easier to pick and choose the parts you want. MWave.com You can use the website's Shopping Cart to carry around the different parts till you make your final choices.


    Antec 900 casing $109
    Corsair 450VX Power Supply $75
    Asus P5K P35 Motherboard $125
    C2Q Q9300 CPU $279
    4GB Corsair XMS DDR2 PC2 6400 $90
    WD 500GB SATA Hard Drive $89
    Evga Superclocked 9600GT video card $170

    Corsair 4GB USB Flash Drive $20
  19. +1 for not buying a boutique-built PC. If you know what you're doing, you can put together a hell of a PC for much less money.
  20. Have you already decided on what size video monitor you want to use?
    That might have a bearing on the final suggestion of video card.
  21. WR2 said:
    I think you plan on buying the individual parts and having them sent to Aramex Shipping for final shipment to you in the UAE?
    I don't have any experiance with freight fowarding companies or have any inside information on what US companies will ship to them.
    But I did notice the Aramex Shop&Ship mailbox option! [:wr2:5] Aramex Shop & Ship

    Im going to suggest a different website since its much easier to view the individual prices for parts instead of the bundle of parts @ CyberPowerPC
    It's also easier to pick and choose the parts you want. MWave.com You can use the website's Shopping Cart to carry around the different parts till you make your final choices.


    Antec 900 casing $109
    Corsair 450VX Power Supply $75
    Asus P5K P35 Motherboard $125
    C2Q Q9300 CPU $279
    4GB Corsair XMS DDR2 PC2 6400 $90
    WD 500GB SATA Hard Drive $89
    Evga Superclocked 9600GT video card $170

    Corsair 4GB USB Flash Drive $20



    @WR2

    You guessed it right, im using Aramex's ShopandShip service. :D

    Thanks alot for listing the parts. I will go through each of them one by one. :)

    @KyleSTL
    Yes, I would be assembling it myself. i have always custom built my own PC's. Never had I ever bought a Built PC ;)


    @WR2

    20" or 21 " LCD Monitor. Samsung or Viewsonic. Would CRT be good ?
  22. I think 20/22 widescreen LCDs are very good choices.
    Viewsonic G220F 22" CRT $429 Viewsonic VG 2230WM 22" widescreen LCD $289
    LCD monitors aren't for everyone (graphics professionals for example) but they're excellent for the majority.

    Do you have a list of games you're most interested in?

    For a 20"/22" widescreen monitor it maybe a good idea to go with a more powerful video card.
    Evga 8800GTS (G92) 512 $265
  23. Would'nt 9600 GT 512 MB be enough for 20 /22" monitor.
  24. Also, is it necessary to buy Water Cooled Casing ?
  25. I think the 9600GT would be fine for occasional gaming. You might need to turn the graphics quality from high to medium in some games but overall the 9600GT should give you a good gaming experiance.

    Watercooling the CPU isn't usually a requirement but it can be an option if you want. Thermaltake Bigwater 760i $150
    A much more complex installation process Youtube installation video Bigwater 760i review

    Also the cooling performance isnt always that much greater than air cooled heat sink & fan.


    The ZEROtherm Nirvana NV120 CPU cooler runs around $50 ZEROtherm Nirvana NV120 review
    And the NV120s blue LED fan would nicely match the blue LED of the Antec 900 case.

    The Antec 900 case does a good job helping keep your system cool.
    It has two 120mm fans in front, 1 120mm fan in the rear and a huge 200mm fan on top of the case.
  26. WR2 said:
    I think the 9600GT would be fine for occasional gaming. You might need to turn the graphics quality from high to medium in some games but overall the 9600GT should give you a good gaming experiance.

    Watercooling the CPU isn't usually a requirement but it can be an option if you want. Thermaltake Bigwater 760i $150
    A much more complex installation process Youtube installation video Bigwater 760i review

    Also the cooling performance isnt always that much greater than air cooled heat sink & fan.
    http://techgage.com/reviews/thermaltake/bigwater_760i/results.png

    The ZEROtherm Nirvana NV120 CPU cooler runs around $50 ZEROtherm Nirvana NV120 review
    And the NV120s blue LED fan would nicely match the blue LED of the Antec 900 case.

    The Antec 900 case does a good job helping keep your system cool.
    It has two 120mm fans in front, 1 120mm fan in the rear and a huge 200mm fan on top of the case.
    http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/ProductImageCompressAll200/11-129-021-18.jpg



    Thanks once again for taking out time for writing a detailed post.

    Ill stick with Air Cooling. Antec 900, are the two preinstalled fans enough or should i add more fans?

    I am gearing towards 8800 gt 512 mb after reading its reviews. What do you think ? Maybe, some games such as Crysis.


    @WR2, my main work includes Web Design, Web Programming, Graphic Design and occasional gaming.

    I think there are different LCD Monitors pertaining to the requirements, for e.g Designers have to choose a different monitor when compared to gamers.

    In that case, which Monitor would be the best choice ?
  27. Just checked ZEROtherm Nirvana NV120 CPU cooler. Its quite heavy around 638g and huge.

    P.S. I am not able to use the Postreply button. When I press Postreply, it says that the thread does not exist.

    I am using the Quick Reply now.
  28. Just checked the reviews of ZEROtherm Nirvana NV120 CPU cooler and the buyers are saying that they size if very big and one of them had one of his memory slots covered by the Cooler.

    If someone has used ZEROtherm Nirvana NV120 CPU cooler with Antec 900. Would it fit in the case ?

    Any other good Heat sinks?
  29. The Antec 900 case has 4 fans. 3 are 120mm and 1 (the top fan) is 200mm. I don't think you'll need more case fans.
    I did check the clearance of the Asus P5K motherboard and the Antec 900 case - not a problem for the NV120 cooler.
    http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/6905/nv1201sl5.th.jpg http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/8229/nv1202vx7.th.jpg

    I can dig out some more coolers to give you a range of choices.

    For your monitor - what budget range did you have in mind?
    You're right that some professionals use specialized LCD monitors. For graphic artists that do design work and must have exact color on the monitor and photography and video editors that process images that require the highest quality. Those types of monitors tend to be on the really pricey side.
  30. As you are not overclocking the antec 900 is fine with the preinstalled fans on low... and its pretty quiet. You can install a side fan though if you want air flow directed over the graphics card. There is also a middle case fan mount, but I personally dont bother with it.
  31. WR2 said:
    The Antec 900 case has 4 fans. 3 are 120mm and 1 (the top fan) is 200mm. I don't think you'll need more case fans.
    I did check the clearance of the Asus P5K motherboard and the Antec 900 case - not a problem for the NV120 cooler.
    http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/6905/nv1201sl5.th.jpg http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/8229/nv1202vx7.th.jpg

    I can dig out some more coolers to give you a range of choices.

    For your monitor - what budget range did you have in mind?
    You're right that some professionals use specialized LCD monitors. For graphic artists that do design work and must have exact color on the monitor and photography and video editors that process images that require the highest quality. Those types of monitors tend to be on the really pricey side.


    Thanks, i did reviews of other Heatsinks over at hardwarelogic.com and they gave Nirvana 93 rating and the rest were all below 90.
    http://hardwarelogic.com/news/137/ARTICLE/1406/4/2007-10-29.html


    I want to Overclock my system.

    I am deciding on going with the following:

    CPU : Intel 2 Quad Core Q9450
    CASE: Antec 900
    Heatsink: ZEROtherm Nirvana NV120 CPU cooler
    Memory : 1 GB Crosair x 2
    Graphics : 8800 GT 512 MB

    Now regarding the Motherboard.

    How about the followin two :

    1). GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128059
    Quote:
    # CPU Type: Quad-core / Core 2 Extreme / Core 2 Duo / Pentium Extreme / Pentium D
    # Dual Channel Supported: Yes
    # FSB: 1333/1066MHz
    # Maximum Memory Supported: 8GB
    # Memory Standard: DDR2 1066
    # Number of Memory Slots: 4×240pin
    # PCI Express x1: 3
    # PCI Express x16: 1
    # Model #: GA-P35-DS3L




    2). ABIT IP35 Pro LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813127030
    Quote:
    # CPU Type: Quad-core / Core 2 Extreme / Core 2 Duo / Pentium
    # Dual Channel Supported: Yes
    # FSB: 1333/1066MHz
    # Maximum Memory Supported: 8GB
    # Memory Standard: DDR2 800
    # Number of Memory Slots: 4×240pin
    # PCI Express x1: 1
    # PCI Express x16: 1 x PCI-E X16, 1 x PCI-E X16 (x4 bandwidth)
    # Model #: IP35 Pro



    Need more suggestions regarding Motherboard. Also, would SLI motherboard be good for long term since I wont be changing my system for another 4 to 5 years (if it does not die on me)
  32. How about this Casing:
    COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-UW
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119068

    its cheap as well
  33. My budget for a monitor is around $300.00. $250 would be great.

    How about these monitors:

    1). Acer AL2216Wbd Black 22" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009094
    Contrast Ratio: 700:1

    2). ViewSonic Graphic Series VG2230wm Black 22" 5ms Widescreen LCD
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824116060
    Contrast Ratio: 700:1

    3). SAMSUNG 2253BW Black 22" 2ms(GTG) DVI Widescreen LCD
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001268

    Contrast Ratio: DC 8000:1(1000:1)
  34. Just checked a local store over here:

    I could not find Acer but found 3 other

    Samsung 220WM 22" = $292.00
    LG L222WF 22" = $231.00
    ViewSonic VA2216W 22" = $258.00
  35. Centurion 5 is a good case.
    I'd go for either the Samsung or Viewsonic.
    The Acer you listed is a 6-bit panel with dithering (as opposed to native 8-bit panels) so it's a good thing the store does not carry it.
    I'd go for the DS3L, it is popular for good reasons.
  36. Only if you are considering a future monitor size/resolution of 24"/1920x1200 or larger would a SLI motherboard start to make sense IMO.
    Otherwise upgrading a single video card for a more powerful video card every 18-24months is the usual way people keep gaming systems updated.

    The Q9450 is a slightly better choice for overclocking than the Q9300 but both would have OC'd faster than the $1400 QX9770 3.2Ghz CPU.
    Q9450 @ 3.8Ghz and Q9300 @ 3.5Ghz is about what you could expect from either CPU Q9450 review @ Hardwarelogic

    A well ventilated case becomes more important as you start overclocking. Unless your budget limit is reached I'd still suggest the Antec 900 over the CM Centurion 5. If you go with the Centurion 5 you'd want to get 2 more fans for the case IMO.
    I think the ZEROtherm NV120 has you covered for CPU cooling.

    Now that you'd considering overclocking and a future upgrade to the video card you'll want to consider a power supply larger then 450watts.

    Of all the monitors you've listed I would have picked the SAMSUNG 2253BW. But considering the kind of work you'll be doing the one feature missing on all the monitors you've listed is the ability to pivot the monitor into Portrait mode - the vertical orientation of the screen (1050x1680). Dead useful for looking at a whole webpage in one glance. Also having USB ports on the monitor is super handy for using a USB flash drive to backup your current work files.
    Samsung 2243BWX

  37. The the Centurion 5 case doesnt seem to have the option for additional case fans.
    Look over the Coolermaster Centurion 590 case Both CM cases would fit the NV120 CPU cooler.
  38. Hello WR2

    I just came back from of the local elec stores.

    They have the following LCD's:

    Viewsonic VA2216W 22" = $272.00
    Viewsonic VX2255WMB 22" = $408.00
  39. I think pivoting is not that important since I have to consider that most of the users dont have such a monitor and they will be working on the regular or wide monitors.

    I will look into Samsung Monitors.
  40. Here is what I have come up with so far:

    CASE: Antec 900 OR Cooler Master Centurion 590

    CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450

    MOTHERBOARD: Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX

    MEMORY: Corsair TWIN2X4096-6400C5 4GB kit (2gb x 2) pc26400

    VIDEO CARD:
    eVGA 512-P3-N801-AR GeForce 8800GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card

    OR

    eVGA 512-P3-N802-AR GeForce 8800GT Superclocked 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI


    HARD DRIVE: Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive

    POWER SUPPLY: Corsair CMPSU-450VX ATX

    COOLING FAN: ZEROtherm Nirvana NV120 CPU cooler


    Would the Power supply Corsair CMPSU-450VX be able to handle the Grpahics Card eVGA 512 GeForce 8800GT
  41. Yes, the 450VX will handle it nicely. For a little more headroom (future upgrades, single GPU) or quieter operation you could get the 550VX, but that's not necessary, but may be nice.

    Two recommendations:
    • Change your hard drive to either the 3200AAKS, 6400AAKS, or 7500AAKS (the first two being the faster of the three) because they are PMR drives and are much faster than the non-PMR 5000AAKS
    • Get the standard 8800GT if the overclocked version is more than $10US (or equivalent) more than the standard. If it's less than 10, go for the overclock.

    Other than that, it looks great, either case would be fine for your needs.
  42. Hello KyleSTL,

    Thank you for the details.

    I have absolutely no idea what AAKS means. I better do some research. Whats a PMR drive? Too much technical words lol


    Excellent, ill go with Standard 8800 GT.

    Now I think i have to get a good monitor. WR2 suggested that I go with Samsung and I think Im leaning towards Samsung brand as well. Since I have a Samsung HDTV 30".


    One more thing, I live in UAE where normal outside temps from June till September are between 30' Celcius to 39' Celcius.
  43. PMR = Perpendicular Magnetic Recording (basically it means more bits/sq. cm., i.e. faster, quieter, lighter, lower power consumption)

    for Western Digital -
    AA = SATA drive w/o legacy 4-pin molex power connector (only 15-pin SATA power)
    K = 16MB of cache (J = 8MB, B = 2MB)
    S = SATA300 interface (D = SATA150, B = PATA/IDE)
  44. Hello KyleSTL

    Thanks alot for the information.


    I called one of the local stores and asked them for
    Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD3200AAKS 320GB 7200 RPM

    They said that they dont have that one but they do have the following:

    Western Digital Caviar SE WD3200AAJS 320GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb = $82.00


    What should I do ? Now which is better AAJS or AAKS ?
  45. I just checked some more local stores and they all have WD 3200AAJS, no AAKS. :(

    I think ill have to buy it online
  46. Check to see if they have the 6400AAKS, if they do not, stick with your original 5000AAKS.
  47. They dont have any size in AAKS model. They have different sizes in AAJS.

    I'll just buy it off an online store.
  48. From an earlier post:
    Ibn Saeed said:
    Here is what I have come up with so far:
    ...
    HARD DRIVE: Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive

    I assumed you had access to the 5000AAKS based on this.
    If it's not too much of a hastle I would suggest ordering the HDD online and getting a 3200AAKS, 6400AAKS (best choice), or 7500AAKS.
    Seagate .11 hard drives are also very good if you can get those locally or online easier.
  49. Ill order WD6400AAKS online. I have to check the total weight of the Harddrive in order to calculate the shipping cost to UAE.

    The same goes for the Casing's Weight.
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