interesting: Vantage results for GTX 280, 260, Radeon HD 4870 and 4850

Quote from article: "These are of course in no way official and we can't say for certain where they come from. The only thing we know is that the numbers are not unreasonable........"

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,7809.html

OK everyone, I just came across this over at NordicHardware and figured I'd share it with you all. I actually think this may be good for ATI (if the benchies are true that is). First of all, this is just another 3Dmark score comparison (and we don't know if real gameplay will offer better performance to the ATI cards); second, as mentioned in the article, ATI's cards should improve with newer and better drivers; and thirdly, the 4870X2 is not included in the comparison.

Given that it is pretty much two 4870s in Crossfire (and I've read that it may be more than that, and that scaling should be largely improved over the previous generation), and assuming that with newer drivers it could see something like 80% scaling (in 3Dmark at least ), that would yield a score of ~4600-4700 (which beats the GTX 280s score of ~41xx).

Or just forget about all these assumptions and simply realize that if the 4870X2 gets more than about 63% scaling, it will outperform the GTX 280 (again, in 3dmark Vantage).

This will be an interesting summer to say the least........

What i want to see are gtx 280 sli results....

^Yes!

You can already play Crisis on Low settings on ati 780G

If these numbers are valid and if they are taken with the DDR4 version of 4870XT then I think 4870 will be a killer (supposing even drivers are not the best at the moment for sure)

What are the expected price ranges on the X280 and 260?

I want to see the next game that brings these cards to their knees.

Here are again, looking at more numbers based on assumptions, relayed by sites of dubious reliability, on cards that are not out nor have finished drivers. Once more into fantasy land, where you can find whatever you're looking for, if you search long enough.

I don't know about others, but I'll wait until real cards come out, with real benches, done by reputable sites. Then, adn only then, will I decide which card to buy, or even if its worth buying a new card.

Lol well I just bought a new laptop 2 mo ago. And I am going to spend 1200 on a Five-Seven Pistol from FNH and a fingerprint safe for it so i dont think i can justify it.

LOL. You think that's bad? Just scroll up one post... he implied his wife was more important than FPS in games? What a joke!!!

Yea, at least your computer doesn't care how much beer you drink or for how long you play any game. AND, even though your computer already comes with games (in the OS i should say), she doesn't care if you get bored with them and play with other games for a while lol

Yes, unfortunately that is the case. As you can see above, I mentioned that in hopes that everyone would realize that this is at the moment educated speculation....

^.....but like Sailor, I too will wait with eager expectations for the official benchmarks from Tom's and other good sites and see what the prices are and then make my final decision.

Yep, I love to talk about potential hardware changes and such, and what we would hope for in these new cards, but I never give any credence to benchmarks and projected performance figures, especially based on limited pool of info like non-AA benchies and Futuremark final scores (tell me the sub tests more importantly IMO).

Anywhoo, only another two and a half weeks and then hopefully all the noise will be gone and all the solid information can start flowing.

That and maybe those early ES cards getting poked and proded by the THG staff would be nice even if 'unsuported'.

you have to wait paris.there is no way anyone in this forum can give you what you asked for...

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,7819.html
OK everyone, now I have the source for these benchmarks*. Apparently he's been quite reliable over the past two years or so...also this article contains a tad more info on the new cards prices ($650 for the GTX 280!)

*EDIT: For the GT200 Vantage scores only. Sorry about that.....

Lets just say this, if these cards were run on 3DM, and if theyre somehwat true, even if ATI doesnt have any decnt drivers yet for it, thered be no way 1 person or persons would have access to all these cards. And say if its from several "reliable" people, we also dont have any idea as to what setup was being used for each card. Even 1 person having say a 4870 and a 4850 would be a surprise. 1 or the other sure, I can see that, but both? Same with the G2xx's. Ill say this though, this is about as close to the truth weve gotten so far, just no way to know what was used for setups

yeah, but its only for enthusiasts so when you have so much money it doesnt really matter if its 650 or 600

People with such purchases have at least 24" 1920 x 1200 or even 27" - 30" monitors.

My opinion is that these cards should be even more expensive - like $1000.

Why you should give $1000 for an extreme processor (or even $1500) and not for an extreme VC when the VC have even more weight on the game performance?

Thats the same price as the 8800GTX was ? This is supposed to be that big of jump once again, so I guess it equals out

Well the $599 target was always the realistic target IMO.

Just like Fuad and others keep saying the HD4870 will be $229, there's no freakin' way, and the $349 supposed leaked spec sheet makes more sense.

Anywhoo, I would say if you're buying from eVGA (as you have to for the Step-up) then it'll likely be $600 or more (depending on if they launch a normal one first or the expensive OC'ed ones only), if you are buying from an e-Tailer then you're likely to see discount actions happening. But even then I think the biggest discount will be reserved for the GTX260 to give them something to look price competitive, those I expect to see in e-tail early for under $400 from makers like ECS or ZOTAC, etc. but likely BFG, eVGA, etc will be close to MSRP or above at launch, especially if volumes are tight like they're rumoured to be.

I plan to snag a 4850 around October. I'm 15 so minimum wage during this summer isn't going to cover a 4870 or GTX260, especially since I need a new amp and Wahwah really bad. Hopefully by then the prices will be down so I'm not paying twice what it should be like tends to happen at release.

I think your bad English was the reason for you to not understand me. I said it will be stupid to have 19" monitor and buy the VERY TOP video card like GX2 or GTX280 when it gets out, because you will be pretty satisfied with a 9800 GTX or 3870 or 8800 GTS or something in that range. Other than that will be just blowing off money and getting it just to show off your friends

Those crts are nice if you have the room for em

Got plenty of space for them Victorian house, Living room was formerly seperate lounge \ dining room knocked through etc, its just trying to convince the wife that the ancient beige CRT with battle scars really doesnt look that awful in the living room thats the hard part .

My wife really likes the sleek looks of the modern LCD panel, and so I brought a couple of samsung pebbles in, but I cant stand gaming on it so Im trying to sneak the CRT back in , Ive yet to come up with a legitimate excuse to use the "spare" lcd panel elsewhere...

LCDs give off UV, you could use that , even though the levels are low, the exposure from multiple LCDs...

LCD backlight emits a tiny amount of UV. CRT will bombard you with more 'traditional' radiation.