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June 21, 2008 2:59:42 AM

Hello,

I do most of my gaming on PS3, but want to play Crysis (high settings, if possible). Need to keep costs low and found this HP a6342p for $420 on Tigerdirect; would you recommend?

The processor is the Dual Core E2180, which I read on this site is decent when overclocked to 3.3ghz.

Looking to install the XFX 8800gt and upgrade the power supply.



http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...



I am definitely not committed to this and am open to suggestions.



Thank you for any assistance.

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June 21, 2008 3:06:18 AM

Keep in mind that HP motherboards do not allow cpu overclocking. The cpu at stock will likely be bottlenecked. A 8800gt should be good enough to run Crysis at high settings on a moderate 1024x720 resolution.
June 21, 2008 3:19:44 AM

I appreciate the info, dagger, thanks a lot.

I see you have the Q6600. Using my employer's discount, I can get a Dell Inspiron 530 w/Q6600 (or Q9300 +$100) and 4GB DDR2, install the XFX 8800gt and a Corsair power supply for around $850....?

I keep reading that Dell sucks, but my Inspiron 8600 w/ATI 128mb has lasted me four years with zero problems.

Any other company's motherboards that do not allow overclocking?
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June 21, 2008 3:21:46 AM

Actually I ran Crysis on high with an 8800gt w/256mb of vram. I had to turn down shaders and shadows to medium... One thing I found however with the game was that 4gb of ram made a big difference over 2gb in overall smoothness. Also, I was running on Vista 64 bit and had the graphics card pretty OC'ed so I don't know how all this factors in.

On a side note I just bought a Visiontek 4850 for $145 after taxes from Bestbuy. This would be a better purchase than that 8800gt in my opinion.

Also, don't buy an HP... Build everything yourself. Newegg yo.
June 21, 2008 3:35:56 AM

145?! eh? how?
June 21, 2008 3:47:21 AM

I play Crysis at all high @ 1680x1050 resolution DX9. I'd recommend you turn down shader quality to medium or keep it at high and turn down post processing and shadow quality to medium so it's perfectly fluid. DX10 looks same and reduces FPS. I'd recommend a E8400 at stock, my E4600 seems like a bottleneck for 2-3FPS which can matter between playing all high or almost all high.
June 21, 2008 3:58:08 AM

on that X3100 with high in crysis? i dont think so.not even the CPU could cope with it at stock speed.
June 21, 2008 4:07:42 AM


Using nVidea's configuration tool (below link), it shows that both the E8400/E4600 outperform the Q6600 with the 8800gt; interesting.

http://www.nvidia.com/content/opc/v2/configurator.asp


So I thought the only options out there were ATI/nVidea; I have never heard of Visiontek...superior to nVidea? Also, with all the different variations of the 8800GT, ie MSI, XFX, EVGA, etc.; how do you narrow it down? Newegg alone has 46 8800GTs to choose from.

I will be playing at 1680 x 1050.

Would you recommend a barebones kit from Tigerdirect?


Thanks, guys!
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June 21, 2008 4:24:14 AM

Are you opposed to building it yourself? I ask cuz those stock cases suck for cooling. I used to work for best buy and we would get alot of those OEM pc's back after upgrading them. I good pc could be built for about 600 which is about the same price you'd pay after upgrading that one.
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June 21, 2008 4:27:46 AM

Quickly having browsed the barebone selection i would get all the parts yourself. Toms hardware has a good write up on a 500 dollar gaming machine. I'd use that to start.
June 21, 2008 4:31:15 AM

A bit opposed, yes. I have never built a PC from the ground up before. I've installed power supplies, RAM, and video cards on several PCs, but never the whole process. Scared to make a fatal mistake.

I'm am quite intrigued by the option to play Crysis for $600...can you point me (or link me) in the right direction.

You guys are great. Thanks a lot!
June 21, 2008 4:32:11 AM

You're too quick, thanks!
June 21, 2008 4:32:12 AM

Just to put things into perspective, my computer (with a lowly 2.2GHz Athlon 64, 1GB RAM, and Radeon X600) can run Crysis at 1024 x 768 low settings.

As others have said, you can't overclock with HP motherboards. I would stay away from the refurb HP, or any other refurbished computers or components, for that matter. I say this from experience; I got burned with a refurb HP (the processor and motherboard fried), and there's no warranty, I believe.

That Dell you mentioned with the Q6600 looks a like a great deal, and I'll second the recommendation to get a Radeon HD 4850 instead of the 8800GT. You could always go the route of building it yourself, though...
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June 21, 2008 6:15:59 AM

Here's what I would do for a reasonably cheap crysis worthy system:

CPU:
Either the E8400 or the Q6600 ($189.99-$199.99, the 8400 would be faster in games, run cooler, and probably overclock higher, the 6600 would be a bit faster overall computer experience). Note that the Q6600 is an OEM, and therefore does not come with a heat sink - here is the non OEM version with the stock heat sink. I would recommend the OEM if you go with the quad though, as even though the stock heatsink is adequate on the duals even with a moderate overclock, it is severely taxed on the quads, and insufficient if you overclock at all.

Video: HD4850 - I'm partial to MSI and Diamond myself, but any would work ($199)

Motherboard: I like the intel chipsets myself - I've had great success with the MSI P35 Neo2 ($110) - I currently have a C2D E6750 @3.5GHz (1750 fsb) that's rock solid all day long.

RAM: I've found amount to be more important than speed here. I'd go with some DDR2-800, such as the excellent Crucial Ballistix ($110 for 4GB or $55 for 2GB normally, currently at $70 for 4GB, $35 for 2)

PSU: I like the Thermaltake Toughpowers - this one's a 750W (normally $170, right now $130 after a mail in rebate). You could get away with less, but having a little extra power allows for some leeway in the future.

Hard drive: 500GB Seagate 7200.10 - currently $80

Case: the Cooler Master Centurion is a good choice - not too big, easy to work with, and sturdy. Only $50 too.

Operating system: Windows Vista Home Premium (OEM version) ($100)

Add in a few other essentials, such as a DVD burner ($35), as well as anything else you might want, and you're set. Total for this setup? Not counting any of the rebates going on right now, it would cost about $990-$1055, depending on the amount of RAM and the CPU chosen, and if you factor in the currently available rebates, it's more like $930-$975. You could definitely go cheaper, such as by using a 430w power supply instead of the 750 ($40), and it would definitely still work, though if you ever got a significantly better system in the future, you might have to replace the power supply. This would bring the system down to the high $800 range (mid $800's counting the current rebates), and you could cut the hard drive down too (if you don't need 500 gigs, the 250GB model goes for $20 less). I wouldn't go much below that config though for CPU, GPU or motherboard, as if you want to run Crysis on high smoothly (depending on the resolution), you want absolutely top notch components for those.

You can go below this, and it will run crysis, but depending on the resolution, something like the above configuration would really give the best bang for the buck, and should be able to pull Crysis on high at any resolution <1920x1200 very smoothly.
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June 21, 2008 9:13:54 AM

I use the 1066 pin mod on my compaq board (no overclocking options), and it works great. Some cpus may even work with the 1333 mod. With 1066, you get a 33% overclock; with 1333 on a 1066 cpu, 25%. My cpu was done with copper tape, available at Fry's for $3.
June 21, 2008 9:32:27 AM

A bit more than I intended to spend, but much better than the dell I was considering. Total is $965.

Thanks for the recommendations, cjl. Here's my Newegg shopping cart......


CPU ● $200 - Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor Model HH80562PH0568M - OEM

Cooler ● $26 - COOLER MASTER RR-CCH-L9U1-GP 92mm Hyper TX2 CPU Cooler

MotherB ● $110 - MSI P35 Neo2-FR LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

RAM ● $85 - G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ

GPU ● $200 - MSI R4850-T2D512 Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire

HDD ● $100 - Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

Sound ● $0 - Integrated?

Case ● $50 - COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-UW Black Aluminum Bezel , SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

PSU ● $170 - Thermaltake W0116RU 750W Complies with ATX 12V 2.2 & EPS 12V version Power Supply

DVD ● $24 - PHILIPS 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black IDE Model SPD2413BM/17


I welcome all comments...should I be worried that the components are not SLI?

Should I spend a bit more for another motherboard?

Do I need any additional cooling?

Is the spendy PSU overkill?


Thanks for all the help! Hope you all enjoy your weekend!
June 21, 2008 9:47:09 AM

Yes, definitely an overkill. You'll be more than okay with 550W Corsair for 100$.
Otherwise, this system seems to be pretty nice.
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June 21, 2008 1:47:17 PM

very important dont forget the thermal paste, Artic Silver
June 21, 2008 3:26:14 PM

i wouldnt recommend that mobo. since the mobo need to be very capable for him to get some decent OC out of it.400FSB at least, and look at the NB heatsink thats tiny it will just overheat and melt the mobo!LOL

get the EP35-DS3L
June 21, 2008 3:35:16 PM

-->CPU ● $200 - Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor Model HH80562PH0568M - OEM .......good choice crysis uses 4 cores flat out, plenty of OC info on the net

->MotherB ● $110 - MSI P35 Neo2-FR LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail ....prefer the x38 board myself

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June 21, 2008 3:57:37 PM

Ptosio said:
Yes, definitely an overkill. You'll be more than okay with 550W Corsair for 100$.
Otherwise, this system seems to be pretty nice.


No its not overkill, that TT PSU he choosed is a very good PSU, and when u have the money then why not getting the best u can ? :D 

Btw, that Corsair is a very good choice for the money too :) 
June 21, 2008 4:35:53 PM

vertigon i think he wanted a cheap computer. the X-series will put the criteria. a dual core will be better for gaming. i support quad core myself but for games then there is no match for dual core.plus couple with the DS3L it can OC the E7200 abpve 4Ghz EASILY because the 400fsb will get him 3.8Ghz already.
June 21, 2008 5:13:24 PM

if you need to keep to $600, your only option would be to build the computer yourself. it may seem intimidating to build an entire pc, but it's not hard. all the parts come with instructions on how to install them. it's quite simple. if i remember correctly, tigerdirect sells some barebones packages with some of the parts already assembled. that may be a good option for you.
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June 21, 2008 6:12:43 PM

cjl gave some very good tips up there. You could go with his recommended setup and really enjoy it.

@ mikerose79... the build you listed looks great to me! The 750W power supply, although more than you'd need for that build, isn't a bad idea entirely. The better PSU you buy, the longer you'll be able to keep it in the future (ie not have to upgrade it next time around). Generally speaking, PC components use more power each generation. Although the "Green" push has started..

The cooler you listed. Just make sure it is adequate for the Q6600. Perhaps find some folks who have used that cooler with an OC'd Q6600 and get their temps.

As far as the E7400/E8400 vs Q6600 comments go. Some benchmarks show the dual-core systems beating out quads in some/most games. However, as games and software are coded to take advantage of multiple cores better, we'll probably see those quad cores become the come back kids.

And if you do Vista, it is multi-core friendly. So the OS itself will use all 4 cores appropriately.

Don't worry about building your own. Years ago all I could do is install memory. Then I did a video card. Then I did a sound card. Next thing you know, I was installing CPUs, Heatsinks, motherboards, etc. I've only purchased 1 boxed desktop PC in my life. So much cheaper to build a custom self-built PC these days. You get much better performance, for the same amount of money (or less) than a store bought system of lesser quality.
June 21, 2008 6:38:27 PM

prebuilt is cheap no doubt but you dont get any extra out of like. im talking about OCing thats the whole point.getting cheaper part to the upper level. dont take the route mention above. because when you need to upgrade a part the whole value of your system will already go down making the upgrade possibly more then what its worth.
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June 21, 2008 7:16:24 PM

iluvgillgill said:
prebuilt is cheap no doubt but you dont get any extra out of like. im talking about OCing thats the whole point.getting cheaper part to the upper level. dont take the route mention above. because when you need to upgrade a part the whole value of your system will already go down making the upgrade possibly more then what its worth.


Am I the only one that doesn't quite understand what he/she just said?
June 21, 2008 7:23:19 PM

but if you dont really dont understand i will explain again. upgrade your parts as time goes by the value of your built will drop below what the upgrade would cost. or another word not worth it.
June 21, 2008 7:25:16 PM

better to spend big amount and then last at least 2 years then a new build.

but if you on budget the tom's low budget system will do nicely.
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June 21, 2008 9:13:15 PM

$535 or so (no case or OS)

X2 5400+ Brisbane 2.8GHz: $87
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GIGABYTE Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3: $200
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
(minus $15 combo saving with the x2 5400+)

GIGABYTE GA-MA78G-DS3H AM2+/AM2 AMD 780G ATX: $90
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
(PCIe2 x16, sb700, firewire, Realtek ALC889A - the mATX version has eSATA)

Kingston 2GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800: $43
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Single stick - could go DDR 1066 for the 'future'

Seagate Barracuda 250GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA: $58
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Good OS/apps drive - when the time is right add a second bigger drive for your data/storage needs

OCZ StealthXStream OCZ500SXS 500W ATX12V / EPS12V: $45 AR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Sony NEC Optiarc Black PATA 20X DVD Burner with LightScribe: $27
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Free shipping - IDE so you won't have to stress over loading SATA drivers


As far as the case as concerned I think you are better off finding something locally because: 1) you can check it out; and 2) no shipping costs. But if you are interested in snagging one from the Egg I would consider the ...

Enlight PA420112 Black ATX Mid Tower / Case 350W Power Supply: $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
free shipping, case fan, Enlight makes good stuff.

AND (to the horrors of the fanboys) that 350w power supply will provide all the juice you need to push a 65w Brisbane, an AMD 780g chipset, all your 'stuff' and an HD4850 (110w ?). I doubt you will top 270w at the wall 'wide open' and most likely idle around 50w.

Here is Tom's on the Gigabyte 780g power consumption - - - - >
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-780g-chipset,17...

So if you drop the OCZ you will have invested around $550 (without the OS). I would suggest adding an 80mm fan for the front of the case so you might want to add another $10.

And because you ain't livin' without going over budget the first accessory I would buy for $49 is the ...

Silverstone 5.25" to 3.5" bay converter with 120mm fan
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
because ...

1) it puts those 3 useless 5 1/4-inch drive bays to work (with space for 4 hard drives);
2) it has a 120mm fan to cool the hard drives;
3) it would allow you to remove the internal 3.5" drive bay (allowing that front 80mm fan to blow directly on your HD4850); and
4) what's not to love about a 120mm fan with blue LEDs? :) 


Bottom Line: Stick the extra $500 in you pocket and laff at the 'pros' who are scoring an additional 3fps over your rig.











June 21, 2008 9:45:32 PM

wisecracker you dont want me to put a intel PC together do you?:p 
June 22, 2008 2:05:40 AM

Replaced minor components and also the motherboard per iluvgillgill‘s recommendation.

TOTAL - $988

CPU ● $200 - Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor Model HH80562PH0568M - OEM

Cooler ● $49 - Silverstone CFP51-B Aluminum 5.25" to 3.5" bay converter with 120mm fan

Cooler ● $27 - ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler
- REPLACED - $26 - COOLER MASTER RR-CCH-L9U1-GP 92mm Hyper TX2 CPU Cooler

MotherB ● $90 - GIGABYTE GA-EP35-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
- REPLACED - $110 - MSI P35 Neo2-FR LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

RAM ● $120 - G.SKILL 2GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Desktop Memory – (x3 = 6GB)
- REPLACED - $85 - G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ

GPU ● $200 - MSI R4850-T2D512 Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire

HDD ● $100 - Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

Sound ● $0 - Integrated?

Case ● $60 - Rosewill R5604-TBK 0.8mm Japanese Cold Rolled Steel Screw-less Dual 120mm Fans ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
- REPLACED - $50 - COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-UW Black Aluminum Bezel , SECC Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

Power ● $110 – CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W Power Supply
- REPLACED - $170 - Thermaltake W0116RU 750W Complies with ATX 12V 2.2 & EPS 12V version Power Supply

DVD ● $27 - Sony NEC Optiarc Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW DVD Burner with LightScribe – OEM
- REPLACED - $24 - PHILIPS 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black IDE Model SPD2413BM/17

Compound ● $5 - Arctic Silver Ceramique Thermal Compound - OEM



I think I’m sold on the Q6600 and plan to overclock.

The Rosewill case has two 120mm fans and I also have two additional coolers; is this too much or not enough?

Is the motherboard okay or would you pay a bit more for another?


Thanks, again!
June 22, 2008 2:27:56 AM

you should always put as many fans as it takes. performance fans is preferable and a fan controller. from my past experience of buying slower fans and get silent. but when i do want to get the extra power i just cant reach it with the quiet fan. get some fast running ones and slow them down with the fan controller. and when you sleep at night you can lower them to the lowest speed since its idling and not much heat being product.

the mobo will go just fine. but i would pick the Artic Silver 5 instead of the Ceramique TIM.
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June 22, 2008 3:00:54 AM

iluvgillgill said:
i wouldnt recommend that mobo. since the mobo need to be very capable for him to get some decent OC out of it.400FSB at least, and look at the NB heatsink thats tiny it will just overheat and melt the mobo!LOL

get the EP35-DS3L


I have one of those motherboards running at 1750FSB effective all day long without touching anything (438FSB actually). It'll easily go over 400FSB, at least the one I have. The alternative mentioned looks like a really good board - I just went with the P35 Neo2 because I have experience with it (and not with that other board).

Oh, and your setup looks quite good. I would go with Arctic Silver 5 rather then Ceramique, but that's your choice. The 5 is slightly better, but it can conduct electricity so you have to be really careful. The ceramique is not as good (though still far better than the junk that you'll often get with the cooler), but it is completely nonconductive, so if a tiny bit gets on something other than the heat spreader, it is less likely to fry a component.

Oh - and I just noticed that you didn't list an OS on your build there. You did remember it, right? You'll want the 64 bit version of Vista (or XP) for that, since you have 6 gigs of RAM. For 64 bit, I'd go with Vista though, as I hear the driver support is better for vista 64 than XP x64.
June 22, 2008 3:07:16 AM

both are good board cjl i agree with you. but the DS3L bigger heatsink on the NB sure thats better right?:) 
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June 22, 2008 3:26:55 AM

Can't hurt...
:) 
June 22, 2008 1:13:56 PM

we will see how it goes!:) 
June 22, 2008 5:55:37 PM

Hello,

I’m about ready to place my order, but every DVD drive on Newegg has some bad reviews, from ASUS to Samsung and Sony.

Should I be worried about not being able to install the OS due to the motherboard not recognizing the drive or the need for drivers for any of the components?

Thanks!
June 22, 2008 5:59:33 PM

mikerose79 said:
Hello,

I’m about ready to place my order, but every DVD drive on Newegg has some bad reviews, from ASUS to Samsung and Sony.

Should I be worried about not being able to install the OS due to the motherboard not recognizing the drive or the need for drivers for any of the components?

Thanks!

Meh, most people only bother to post reviews when it doesn't work. Don't worry about the whinning. Chances of getting a defective drive is low.
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June 22, 2008 7:33:32 PM

I wouldn't worry - I have several different DVD drives from various manufacturers, and all work flawlessly. I would get a SATA DVD drive to keep the cabling a bit easier, but other than that, any of them should be fine.
June 22, 2008 9:06:04 PM

i never thought or experienced a bad DVD drive.plus RMA is piece of cake!:) 
June 23, 2008 5:17:56 AM


My order has been placed with Newegg. Here is my complete order...


1x XCLIO Windtunnel Fully Black Finish 1.0 mm SECC Chassis ATX Full Tower Computer Case
Item #: N82E16811103011
Standard Return Policy $139.99
$99.99

1x Rosewill 18" SATA Cable Model RC-18"-SA-90-BK
Item #: N82E16812119229
Standard Return Policy $2.99
$1.99

1x Link Depot 10 ft. DVI-D male to DVI-D male dual link Cable Model DVI-10-DD
Item #: N82E16812189048
Standard Return Policy $12.99

1x GIGABYTE GA-EP35-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813128337
Limited 30-Day Return Policy $89.99

1x MSI R4850-T2D512 Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card
Item #: N82E16814127359
Standard Return Policy $199.99

1x CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply
Item #: N82E16817139005
Standard Return Policy $159.99
$109.99

1x Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor Model HH80562PH0568M
Item #: N82E16819115018
Processors (CPUs) Return Policy $199.99

4x G.SKILL 2GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL6S-2GBMQ
Item #: N82E16820231111
Memory (Modules, USB) Return Policy $159.96
($39.99 ea)

1x Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
Item #: N82E16822136218
Limited 30-Day Return Policy $99.99

1x ASUS 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model DRW-2014L1T
Item #: N82E16827135156
Standard Return Policy $39.99
$34.99

1x Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
Item #: N82E16835100007
Consumable Items Return Policy $5.99

1x ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler
Item #: N82E16835186134
Standard Return Policy $36.99
$26.99

1x GIGABYTE GN-WP01GS PCI Wireless Adapter
Item #: N82E16839121008
Limited 30-Day Return Policy $17.99

1x BELKIN BE108200-06 6 feet 8 Outlets 3550 joule Surge Suppressor with Phone/Modem Protection
Item #: N82E16842121008
Standard Return Policy $14.99

1x Rosewill RTK-001 Premium Anti-Static Wrist Strap
Item #: N82E16899261001
Standard Return Policy $5.99
$3.99

1x Rosewill RTK-015 15 Piece Standard Computer Tool Kit
Item #: N82E16899261002
Standard Return Policy $14.99
$11.99


Subtotal $1,091.81
Tax $0.00
UPS Ground $63.52
Rush Processing $2.99

Order Total $1,158.32


Quite a bit more than I originally intended to spend, but I feel very good about the purchase.


I want to thank all of you for your help; I truly appreciate it. Best regards.

June 23, 2008 1:30:36 PM

You did alright, they're all value for money components.

iluvgillgill- you were right, I have been playing crysis for a couple of days now and still can't max out 4 cores. To think people see this game as "the" benchmark".....yes all the eyecandy is turned on.
June 23, 2008 11:50:05 PM

what resolution you play it on and waht setting vertigon?
June 24, 2008 12:06:13 AM

*sigh*

It's too late. I was going to tell you get a Nvidia 9600GT instead of an AMD Radeon HD 4850

But you can easily return the 4850; because you bought from Newegg.
June 24, 2008 12:13:14 AM

im thinking do the 9600GT still offers the best price/performance even after the "release" of HD4850? since they are in two different segment so no review have compared it yet i think.(dont remember seeing any:( )
June 24, 2008 12:15:26 AM

iluvgillgill said:
im thinking do the 9600GT still offers the best price/performance even after the "release" of HD4850? since they are in two different segment so no review have compared it yet i think.(dont remember seeing any :(  )

There are.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/HD_4850/8.html

9600gt's performance is definately a level lower though. Hd4850 is up there with g80 8800gtx, g92 8800gts and 9800gtx.
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