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Athlon X2 5000+ Black Edition Running at 70+ under full load!??

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May 15, 2008 12:06:32 PM

My System
  • Case - Rosewill R214P-BLK Black SGCC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case (1 exhaust fan, 1 front fan)
  • MotherBoard - Gigabyte M57SLI-S4
  • CPU - AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ Brisbane (Over clocked to 3.0ghz Multiplier 15x, Voltage 1.35)
  • CPU Cooler/Heatsink - Rosewill RCX-Z940-SL 92mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler
  • Ram - 2 mushkin 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 Dual Channel (total of 2 Gigs)
  • Video Card - GeForce 8600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16
  • Operating System - Windows Vista x64
  • DvD Rom - ASUS 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA
  • Hard Drive - Seagate Barracuda 320 GB SATA
  • Power Supply - APEVIA ATX-AS680W-BL 680W


    I'm having problems with the temprature for my 5000 black edition. When ever i play Rainbowsix vegas 2 or Need For Speed Pro street for about 30 minutes my computer starts to give me the temprature warning beep (which is set to 70c). The idle tempratures for the cpu is 45c which seems pretty normal to me but that 70c is what worries me. Is that too high? I've been reading alot of reviews and other peoples post that they've overcloked they're cpu to 3.0 and even to 3.1 and they'res is pretty stable. Am i doing something wrong? Any advice or tips would be appriciated about how i could improve the temp. Thanks in advance
    May 15, 2008 3:04:35 PM

    Geez, that's way too high. I remember mine was in the low 20's at idle & 40's at load. That's before I switched from air cooling to TEC. Could be the crap cooler. Anyway, reseat the cooler. Look at gigabyte's site for any bios update that addresses any cpu temp issues.
    May 15, 2008 3:24:18 PM

    Even at idle its to high, you need to try a diff cooler, maybe a Zalman 9500 or 9700. What are you using for thermal compound? The new CoolIt Systems Pure Chiller only runs $89 and will bring your temps down. I use their new 12TEC Boreas in my 1st rig, and also their new Freezone Elite in my 2nd rig. UI have them both installed on QX9650s that are at 4Ghz and i have never hit more than 30c-32c. What temp program are you using?
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    May 15, 2008 3:27:34 PM

    I agree, dump the Rosewill cooler. I doubt its as good as a stock AMD cooler, which I know is not shipped with a BE chip. Even a Zalman 9500 or 9700 will be a lot better. If you want to overclock the 5000+ BE to high mhz, you need one of the tower coolers for the best performance. You might do well to check out Anandtech for reviews on high performance coolers.

    On a side note, the Apevia 680wt PSU you have is junk. I know, as I bought one once. The 680wt rating is a peak rating, not continuous. The actual continuous rating is about 380wt. If you check the PSU tier charts, you'll find the Apivia(Aspire) PSU listed in the bottom tier. Its there for a reason, or rather, for more than one reason.
    May 15, 2008 3:33:57 PM

    I work with Thermal code that cools processors like this.
    I can tell you that AMDs generally throttle(Clock speed cut in half) at 71 C
    70 is to high.
    May 15, 2008 3:50:47 PM

    I've got a Black Edition running at 3.0 Ghz and the stock AMD fan wasn't adequate. I'm running a Ninja Scythe that I got from NewEgg for about $35 and it works great. It's super big and super quiet. It never gets out of the 40s during full load.

    I'm got the Zalman 9500 on an Intel Pentium d 940 and it has to work hard to keep it under 50 at full load.
    May 15, 2008 3:52:59 PM

    before buying a new cooler, i would reinstall the one you have and use as little thermal compound as possible.
    May 15, 2008 3:53:30 PM

    Yep i have the CPU, running with a Zalman 9700, never see it over 85deg F.(30c) at load and usually idles about 22-25c with crossfired 3870s in there as well.
    I recommend switching coolers or verifying that it is properly installed.
    a b B Homebuilt system
    May 15, 2008 6:20:20 PM

    A new cooler, and a case with better airflow would seriously cut those temps down. The Zalman 9700 is good, but for much less get an Arctic Cooling freezer 7 pro (about $25)

    P.S. My old 5000+ BE would spike, temp wise, where yours' idles at. (I used a ZEROTherm Nirvana tho)
    a b B Homebuilt system
    May 15, 2008 6:22:37 PM

    Sorry, I meant Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro
    May 15, 2008 6:27:52 PM

    I have a 5000+ BE that is OC'd to 3.265 on air. I have a Noctua cooler. I was having some heat issues, but not as bad as yours. I put everything in a Antec 900 from a Antec Super Lanboy and noticed about a 4-6 degree C difference. I was amazed. But like someone else said try a different cooler or case. By the way my runs anywhere from 31 to 35 c at idle to 45 to 50 @ 100% load both cores.
    May 15, 2008 9:17:04 PM

    I used the thermal compound that came with the cooler. But i also bought a seperate cooling master htk002 high performance Thermal Compound. I'm going to try and reseat the cooler.
    May 15, 2008 11:20:12 PM

    well i reseated the cooler with some of the htk002, considering its about 80-90 degree's room temp right now inside my room since its a hotday. Its around 90+ degree's outside, The cpu is running at mid 40's on idle and going up to 55-60 on load.
    May 15, 2008 11:45:38 PM

    hmm i've noticed something with the software that i'm using to read tempratures. The one that i usually use to check the temprature was the gigabyte easytune5 (which was bundled software). I just checked with speed fan, and pc wizard. The temprature readings are listed below. So which one is accurate?

    SpeedFan
    Temp1 26C
    Temp2 -5C
    Temp3 46C
    Core 37C


    PC Wizard 2008
    Processor Temperature : 26 °C
    Processor Temperature (Core 1) : 36.8 °C
    Processor Temperature (Core 2) : 40 °C


    Gigabyte Easy Tune 5
    Temprature 56C
    May 16, 2008 11:40:12 AM

    Speedfan most accurate among the 3. It's good for amd.
    May 16, 2008 12:05:28 PM

    with speedfan im getting a -5c reading. I don't even know what the temps are reading from with speedfan
    May 17, 2008 1:55:48 PM

    The Temp1 would be cpu, but you can check it against the bios cpu temp. If they're similiar, they're cpu. Disregard -5. Also, you can email the speedfan programmer who will answer questions.
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