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256 mb 8800gt vs 512 mb 9600 gt

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June 3, 2008 7:03:50 PM

9600gt specs:

Brand EVGA
Model 512-P3-N861-AR
Interface
Interface PCI Express 2.0 x16
Chipset
Chipset Manufacturer NVIDIA
GPU GeForce 9600 GT
Core clock 650MHz
Stream Processors 64
Memory
Memory Clock 1800MHz
Memory Size 512MB
Memory Interface 256-bit
Memory Type GDDR3
3D API
DirectX DirectX 10
OpenGL OpenGL 2.0
Ports
DVI 2
TV-Out HDTV / S-Video Out
VIVO No
General
Tuner None
RAMDAC 400 MHz
Max Resolution 2560 x 1600
RoHS Compliant Yes
SLI Supported Yes
Cooler With Fan
System Requirements Minimum of a 400 Watt power supply

Minimum 450 Watt for SLI mode system
Power Connector 6 Pin
Dual-Link DVI Supported Yes
Windows Vista Certified for Windows Vista
HDCP Ready Yes
Packaging
Package Contents 512-P3-N861-AR
Driver Disk
User Manual
HDTV Cable
S-Video Cable
Power Cable
2 x DVI to VGA/D-sub Adapter
Manufacturer Warranty
Parts Lifetime limited
Labor Lifetime limited

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8800gt spec:

Brand XFX
Model PVT88PUHD4
Interface
Interface PCI Express 2.0 x16
Chipset
Chipset Manufacturer NVIDIA
GPU GeForce 8800 GT
Core clock 650MHz
Stream Processors 112
Memory
Memory Clock 1600MHz
Memory Size 256MB
Memory Interface 256-bit
Memory Type GDDR3
3D API
DirectX DirectX 10
OpenGL OpenGL 2.0
Ports
DVI 2
TV-Out HDTV / S-Video Out
VIVO No
General
Tuner None
RAMDAC 400 MHz
Max Resolution 2560 x 1600
RoHS Compliant Yes
SLI Supported Yes
Cooler With Fan
Dual-Link DVI Supported Yes
HDCP Ready Yes
Packaging
Package Contents PVT88PUHD4
Driver Disk
User Manual
HDTV Cable
S-Video Cable
Power Cable
DVI to VGA/D-sub Adapter
Game Disk


the 8800gt has free call of duty 4 game and free shipping, has a $140 final price

the 9600gt has $7 shipping and is $157 as a final price but has a $10 rebate.


which one do you think is better

More about : 256 8800gt 512 9600

June 3, 2008 7:13:51 PM

Dude if you buy the 8800GT(256) you gonna regret big time dude, even with some free game
June 3, 2008 7:20:52 PM

does the ram really matter that much
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June 3, 2008 7:31:42 PM

yes it does.anything above 1280x will be limited by the memory.do you even know what the video memory is for?since you have asked such question.
June 3, 2008 7:33:18 PM

i got a 8800gs 384 MB with COD4 included. 120$ - 30$ MIR = 90$ final price. I couldn't be happier with it. I know the 384 MB of buffer and the 192 bit memory buss hurt my performance but what I have is already good enough for my present needs. I'm not gonna play Crysys or anything ofthe sorts. I take my games according to game play first then graphics and I do have a backlog of very good games that aren't that graphically demanding (actually they are but they're not insane like crysys). Really there are so many games out there, why must we throw ourselves at the newest and badest games?

As far as my future needs go i'll just go buy another cheap graphics card when this one can't handle what i throw at it anymore.
June 3, 2008 7:35:59 PM

Yeah the GPU memory is important for higher resolutions, also the 9600 GT out performs the 8800 GT 256 in other areas as well.
June 3, 2008 8:20:26 PM

To help play newer games at the lower resolutions such as 1280x1024 the 9600gt 512 will probably be better.
June 3, 2008 8:25:55 PM

my monitor is old and only goes up to 1280x1024 so i thought in this case i wont need that much ram.
June 3, 2008 8:41:13 PM

well so you gonna upgrade the graphics card when you change your monitor?i wouldnt do that if i were you.plus if you do get a 9600GT now you can sell it for a MUCH better price then the 256mb 8800gt.

plus the release of 9600GSO has made the 8800GS look like a piece of scrap.
June 3, 2008 8:47:58 PM

so a 9600gso is better than 8800gs

a 8800gt 512 is better than 9600 gt 512

a 9600gt 512 is better than 8800gt 256

my budget is $150

what would you recommend getting?

thanks
June 3, 2008 8:56:28 PM

Hmmmnnn you'd get the 8800GTS for $150 in late June (after the new cards release)...

I really think you ought to save up $50 more and buy a Radeon 4850 when you can.
June 3, 2008 9:04:02 PM

but i heard it is bad to buy a card with an after market cooler since you don't want the company to put it on for you
June 3, 2008 9:05:10 PM

Then you should get the 8800gt 256 mb card.
June 3, 2008 9:10:10 PM

gregbob said:
so a 9600gso is better than 8800gs

a 8800gt 512 is better than 9600 gt 512

a 9600gt 512 is better than 8800gt 256

my budget is $150

what would you recommend getting?

thanks


NONONO!!!

8800GT 512>9600GT 512>9600GSO=8800GS 386>8800GT 256(depend on resolution compare to 9600GSO and 8800GS 386)

understand?9600GT would be the better bet just get the stock card forget about the factory OC card they jus rip off.
June 3, 2008 9:35:04 PM

Na aftermarket coolers are fine, buy the Asus 8800 GT 512 and enjoy. Also the 9600GSO definately destroys the 8800 GS in all resolutions, but the amount fluctuates. Also the 8800 GT 256 also destroys the 8800 GS and gets nearly the same performance as the 9600 GSO, but the 9600 GT slightly edges that out and does much better at 1920x1200 and above. I always buy a factory OC if it is not too much, that way if the card has better OC potential it will run cooler, if not I RMA until I get a good one and no one can say I tampered with the card, cheap I know.
June 3, 2008 9:40:01 PM



9600gso and GS are same cards bro.

June 3, 2008 9:57:27 PM

so all you guys think the asus one is good
June 3, 2008 10:24:31 PM

The 9600GSO is a rebranded 8800GS... though I guess the dual slot cooler would make it a bit better. It's a low-mid range card, I don't see why it would need it.
June 3, 2008 10:35:56 PM

I would also agree on just grabbing the 512mb version of the 8800GT, as it is not even the resolution that is the problem. It is that newer games have much larger textures that cannot fit into the 256mb of vram, causing major fps drops because the gpu has to go to the system ram for textures. As well as others have said, just wait a little more and you could spend only $50 more to get a card that will outperform the 9800GTX (costs about 150-200$ more).
June 3, 2008 10:45:34 PM

didnt i put 9600GSO=8800GS?or you didnt read?
June 3, 2008 10:56:26 PM

what does that have to do with the asus 8800gt iluvgillgill
June 3, 2008 11:07:29 PM

sorry i shud have quote the comment 5 floors up about 9600GSo is the same as 8800GS.

and about the 8800gt.in my area 8800GTS is not far off in term of price but performance will be much better,specially the dual slot cooler will allow it to OC further.i think the dual slot cooler is worth the price difference.
June 3, 2008 11:21:15 PM

If you think about it too long the next generation cards will be out and you will still be trying to make up your mind.

Get the ASUS. For the price and performance there is not another choice.....
June 4, 2008 12:33:47 AM

The 9600 GSO is the same as the 8800 GS, in the sense that the 8800 Ultra was the same as the 8800 GTX, in is just overclocked. Point is they are still 2 different products and the 9600 GSO outperfroms the 8800 GS, because it is an overclocked version. The 8800 GT 256 is definatly limited with the memory, but it still beats the 9600 GSO and 8800 GS.
June 4, 2008 12:35:46 AM

Ok, I just bought the 9600gt and I don't think I could've made a better choice for that price range. The extra performance of the 8800gt is only marginal with the 512 mb of ram when compared to the 9600gt. Personally, if you oc, what's the difference really? Just keep in mind that the 9600gt is as long as a motherboard. I dunno about the size of the 8800gt, but I'm sure it's close to the same length. Make sure you have room before you buy.

Good luck!
Either way, you can't loose. Both cards are good performers.
a b U Graphics card
June 4, 2008 1:41:01 AM

gregbob said:
hey i just found this card do you think it is good.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I don't think about such things, I know it's good.

As far as the 256MB vs 512MB debate goes, for ATI cards the difference is alot less noticeabe. The 51MB HD3850 does not perform (from the reviews I looked at comparing them) alot better than the 256MB HD3850. Nvidia cards collapse with restricted memory though. I'm gussing it's down to ATIs better memory subsystem (ring bus FTW!).
June 4, 2008 1:43:52 AM

What resolution are you going to be at? that's a big deal.

If you're going lower res, I don't see the point of going 8800GT 256, there are other cards better suitable.

If you're going high res and want something you won't be tossing out in 6 months anyway, my best advice is save up the extra $50 and get the card that's right for you.
June 4, 2008 1:46:47 AM

The_Blood_Raven said:
The 9600 GSO is the same as the 8800 GS, in the sense that the 8800 Ultra was the same as the 8800 GTX, in is just overclocked. Point is they are still 2 different products and the 9600 GSO outperfroms the 8800 GS, because it is an overclocked version. The 8800 GT 256 is definatly limited with the memory, but it still beats the 9600 GSO and 8800 GS.


What the hell are you talking about? They are clocked exactly the same!!! :pt1cable: 
June 4, 2008 1:47:53 AM

i am running in 1280x1024
a c 358 U Graphics card
a b } Memory
June 4, 2008 1:48:27 AM

Yes, RAM can make a difference depending on the resolution you play at.

Of the two I would buy the 9600GT. However, don't simply conclude that more RAM automatically mean better performance. It depends on the architecture as well. So if someone gives you a choice between a 8600GTS 2GB (doesn't exist) and a 8800GT 256MB, I would choose the 8800GT.
June 4, 2008 1:49:39 AM

marvelous if everything between the 9600gso and the 8800gs what was the point of nvidia producing the exact same card again
June 4, 2008 2:06:07 AM

the 9600gso has a better chipset than the 8800gs.

9600gso opengl 2.1

8800gs opengl 2.0

not same 9600gso slightly better
June 4, 2008 3:32:37 AM

I'm sure you want this GPU to last like a year or 2.
By that time, I don't think the 8800GT 256 will be relevant anymore, thanks to its crippled memory.
Why choose a free game over some better options huh?

And are you sure about the 8800GS and 9600GSO OpenGL thing?
They are the same, just with the name changed!
a b U Graphics card
June 4, 2008 3:57:07 AM

Don't all Geforce 8 cards have OpenGL 2.1 support?
June 4, 2008 4:59:11 AM

gregbob said:
the 9600gso has a better chipset than the 8800gs.

9600gso opengl 2.1

8800gs opengl 2.0

not same 9600gso slightly better


With the release of 9600gt the 8800gs wasn't selling well. Nvidia thought it was bright idea to rename 8800gs to a 9600gso. Nothing changed though. It's the same G92 chip and clocked exactly the same. However there is 1 particular 9600gso can bios mod into a full time 8800gts which isn't even available in the USA.

Newegg is wrong in their description. 8800gs supports Opengl 2.1 and so do all G92.
a b U Graphics card
June 4, 2008 6:02:08 AM

marvelous211 said:
However there is 1 particular 9600gso can bios mod into a full time 8800gts which isn't even available in the USA.

The only difference is the RAM size and memory bus width. Still essentially the same card. I want one too :D 
June 4, 2008 6:20:37 AM

Just don't get the 256MB 8800GT. There's tons of other better options out there.
Don't burn down one whole jungle just for one stupid tree.
June 4, 2008 5:48:16 PM

i think OP you should pick 9600GT if you count how many people voted for 9600GT.you wont regrat.i OC mine yo 740/1850/2000.and it runs like a cheetah!(not that fast but near there:p )

but the 8800GTS is a good deal show on Newegg.but the new gen is 2 weeks away.you might wanna wait just a bit the price might go down even further.
June 4, 2008 7:07:49 PM

iluvgillgill said:
i think OP you should pick 9600GT if you count how many people voted for 9600GT.you wont regrat.i OC mine yo 740/1850/2000.and it runs like a cheetah!(not that fast but near there:p )

but the 8800GTS is a good deal show on Newegg.but the new gen is 2 weeks away.you might wanna wait just a bit the price might go down even further.


Yep, +1
June 4, 2008 7:14:12 PM

iluvgillgill said:
i think OP you should pick 9600GT if you count how many people voted for 9600GT.you wont regrat.i OC mine yo 740/1850/2000.and it runs like a cheetah!(not that fast but near there:p )

but the 8800GTS is a good deal show on Newegg.but the new gen is 2 weeks away.you might wanna wait just a bit the price might go down even further.


What's your vantage score?

Here's mine.

http://service.futuremark.com/home.action?resultId=3990...

CPU was running 3.05ghz when I tested it.

I get about 11000 in 3dmark2k6.
June 5, 2008 1:43:51 AM

So if the 512mb ASUS EN8800GT is the way to go with the 8800, which is the best 9600 card to buy, RIGHT NOW?

And which of the two is better for low-res (max 1280x1024) gameplay?
Also, which draws less power, and which will be less bottlenecked by an older CPU? (say Opty 148@2.5GHz)
a b U Graphics card
June 5, 2008 2:59:58 AM

I'll split that up into 4 questions:

1) Doesn't really matter, they 9600GT doesn't burn up with the stock cooler like the 8800GT does (or did anyway).

2) 8800GT is faster, so it's better. I use my 9600GT for 1680x1050 gaming and it's fine.

3) 9600GT uses quite a bit less power, but that's expected since it has just over half as many stream processors. That's why it runs cool too. Running ATITool artifact scanner gets it up to ~64C and thats with the fan at ~40%. Aftermarket cooler mind you, but even so...

4) The 9600GT will get bottlenecked less, but only at lower graphics will that matter. Put up the IQ and the 8800GT will start walking all over the 9600GT.
June 5, 2008 3:22:52 AM

randimizer dont you just love these sort of posts!lol

but i do think 9600gt will be enough for him.and i had before the 9600GT play on 1650 surprisingly well as well with all high in COD4 and Juiced 2.and just forget about crysis at 1650.i will be dreaming if its does play!lol
June 5, 2008 3:26:12 AM

8800GS=9600GSO, end of that discusion.. As for the card to buy, just go for a card previously discused with anything above 256mb of VRAM to ensure future-proofing. IMO just get the 9600GT. Its only marginally slower than the 8800GT512, as well as the 9600GT being faster than the 256mb edition of the 8800GT because of memory management issues.
June 5, 2008 3:49:19 AM

daweinah said:
So if the 512mb ASUS EN8800GT is the way to go with the 8800, which is the best 9600 card to buy, RIGHT NOW?

And which of the two is better for low-res (max 1280x1024) gameplay?
Also, which draws less power, and which will be less bottlenecked by an older CPU? (say Opty 148@2.5GHz)


Yep, if you're buying 8800GT below 512 you better dun buy it at all.
At 1280x1024 you wont notice any BIG difference between the 9600GT and the 8800GT, they perform almost at the same performance, sometimes the 9600GT even edges the 8800GT by a bit.
The 9600GT draws a little less power too. A little.
I hope this page can help you choose which 9600GT to choose.
http://hardwarezone.com.my/articles/view.php?cid=3&id=2...
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