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May 20, 2008 6:18:25 PM

Here is the scoop:


OS= XP home:p 


Case= http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Cooler Master Stacker Evo 830

Mobo= http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... GIGABYTE GA-EP35C-DS3R LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX

CPU= http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... E8400 3.0 Wolfdale

Video Card= http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 8800 GTS 512 mb BFG (g92)

Memory= http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Crucial Ballistix ddr2 800, 2x gig's

PSU= http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Enermax Liberty 500 watt, left over from last build

Cpu cooler= http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED 110mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler

Hard Drives= Just 2 normal western digi's, gonna do raid0, from last build

DVD/burner= a Sony that i had around, from last build

Thats the just of it.

I think i have a pretty balanced out system build here, well it better be cause i ordered it all already LOL.

So lemme know what u guys think, ill be happy if i can have good performance in COD4, AOC, SC2 ect.

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May 20, 2008 6:19:23 PM

lemme guess...you're getting this from NewEgg?

Ummm...it might just be me....but I think you'll get more replies if you just tell people what you're getting...instead of making them look at each product.
May 20, 2008 6:29:06 PM

I think you need to improve your grammar. Even more importantly, you should ask first, buy later. It would also help to say what the parts are. It's not polite to make us click 10 links. Well, anyway, for what it's worth...

COOLER MASTER Stacker 830, $230 - nice but RC-690 would also do, under $100

GIGABYTE GA-EP35C-DS3R - bad idea. The DDr2/DDR3 combo is pointless and makes overclocking worse and the price higher. Get the GA-EP35-DS3R instead.

E8400, BFG 8800GTS 512MB - smart

Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) - make it 2x2GB

ENERMAX Liberty ELT500AWT 500W, $110 after rebate and shipping. I don't like it at that price. $90 buys you a 650TX instead.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005&Tpk=650TX

ZALMAN CNPS9700, $54. No. The Xigmatek HDT-S1283 is better, quieter, and cheaper.



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May 20, 2008 6:31:48 PM

Sorry, you guys.


I edited my post for you all.
May 20, 2008 6:36:16 PM

Hey thanks for fixing it!

Well I guess it should be alright. I mean if you ordered the parts already and we have different opinions are you gonna send anything back and exchange it?
May 20, 2008 6:37:07 PM

Ok why XP Home? what person builds a PC and put XP HOME on it? go PRO man because you are a Professional! haha

Ok so everything looks good. Maybe not ddr2 800 memory with a e8400 if you plan to OC. It will limit your OC to 400MHz on the bus. Id go PC8000 or PC8500.

And lastly. WhY the $250 Full tower Cooler Master Monolith case? Are you makeing a statement or just want a place to camp out in?
May 20, 2008 6:39:18 PM

I agree, the only thing here I don't like is the DDR2/DDR3 combo on the Gigabyte motherboard. I would stick with something thats just DDR2, you can overclock to DDR3 speeds anyway (i.e. 1066Mhz). E8400 is a good choice, everything else looks good.
May 20, 2008 6:40:56 PM

Well, the good news is that it is a nice build. After all, the CPU and GPU are excellent choices and the rest is compatible. :) 
May 20, 2008 6:42:40 PM

Aevm, thank you for your reply.

I did think the ddr3 option on the board was kind of a waste and i did not plan on ddr3 into it, but i recalled Tom's reviewing a gigabyte board with ddr2 and ddr3 before, and it over clocked great.

So i guess you where right i should have asked before i bought, hehe.

I hope i can get a decent/moderate OC on it, if not i will be considering a return for the board u had mentioned.
May 20, 2008 6:43:17 PM

I've never been a big fan of cases with doors on them.....just a personal preference, but if you're gonna get one with a door...that one's the one to get I suppose.
May 20, 2008 6:50:26 PM

I'm sure you'll get a good OC with that MB, no worries.

I have a GA-P35C-DS3R myself. I got it a year ago, when DDR3 was very promising and I believed the hype. It overclocks pretty well. It's just that I read a couple of reviews soon after buying it, and they showed the GA-P35-DS3R overclocking better, and it was $30 less too. Well, at least I got eSATA for my $30.
May 20, 2008 6:51:33 PM

1971Rhino said:
I've never been a big fan of cases with doors on them.....just a personal preference, but if you're gonna get one with a door...that one's the one to get I suppose.

I agree it is a nice case. But for a standard sized mobo, single GPU, 600W psu, 2 hard drives, 1 dvd burner? There is so much wasted un needed space. A Mid size would be perfectly suitable and much cheaper. The money would be beter spend on a nicer Motherboard with more features. Just my thought's. NOT saying that isn't a nice mobo but its a solid run of the mill motherboard.
May 20, 2008 6:51:59 PM

jay2tall said:
Ok why XP Home? what person builds a PC and put XP HOME on it? go PRO man because you are a Professional! haha

Ok so everything looks good. Maybe not ddr2 800 memory with a e8400 if you plan to OC. It will limit your OC to 400MHz on the bus. Id go PC8000 or PC8500.

And lastly. WhY the $250 Full tower Cooler Master Monolith case? Are you makeing a statement or just want a place to camp out in?




Xp home is because thats is what i have atm:)  Sp2

i went with ddr2 800 because of bad review and the quirkyness on ddr2 1066, from what i have read, the majority use ddr2 800 and skip on the 1066.

As for the case, the minute i saw it i wanted it, in fact i am kicking myself in the behind right now, cause i saw the same case come down to 159.00 on newegg before and i let the deal pass by:/ Plust at the price i am paying for one hella case, i plan on reusing it in my next build.
May 20, 2008 6:59:18 PM

:lol: 
Why do you care what we think?
You ordered already!
Aside from that everything aevm said is true.
You wasted money on the motherboard, case, PSU and CPU cooler.

Make sure your build won't be a "rush job" or you will end up RMAing parts.
May 20, 2008 7:03:49 PM

jerb said:

i went with ddr2 800 because of bad review and the quirkyness on ddr2 1066, from what i have read, the majority use ddr2 800 and skip on the 1066.

Actually I think that was a particular issue with certain Motherboards. I know several guys running 1066 memory on their OCed rigs and it runs like a champ. You will hurt memory performance if you try to run a lower than 1:1 ratio with you memory.. Basically if you OC your bus above 400MHz.
May 20, 2008 7:08:31 PM

^Most quality 800MHz DDR2 kits run upto 450MHz at stock timings (Geil, Corsair, Mushkin...). If you run at 1:1 that takes an E8400 over 4.0GHz. At that point it would melt under a Zalman 9700 anyway. :) 
May 20, 2008 7:11:58 PM

Andrius said:
^Most quality 800MHz DDR2 kits run upto 450MHz at stock timings (Geil, Corsair, Mushking...). If you run at 1:1 that takes an E8400 over 4.0GHz. At that point it would melt under a Zalman 9700 anyway. :) 



So do you think that my ddr2 choice will be ok? How high can i get the e8400?

Also, what would be the difference from the stock intel cooler and the zalman? I thought the zalman would be a great addition, but if it does not preform that much better than the stock cooler, then its just a waste (i think it will be better than stock, just maybee not worth the cost/per cool ratio)
May 20, 2008 7:19:12 PM

Must agree with aevm (again), although I got an Enermax Liberty 500 and really like it. I wanted PFC, 80+, and the modular cables to avoid the cable mess, but the Corsair he listed would be another great choice.
May 20, 2008 7:20:46 PM

jerb said:
So do you think that my ddr2 choice will be ok? How high can i get the e8400?

Also, what would be the difference from the stock intel cooler and the zalman? I thought the zalman would be a great addition, but if it does not preform that much better than the stock cooler, then its just a waste (i think it will be better than stock, just maybee not worth the cost/per cool ratio)


Hey, the Zalman 9700 is in fact a good cooler, as far as temps go. It's just that other coolers have better price/noise/temp combinations these days. Still, compared to the stock cooler it's a major improvement. Here's a sample from a newegg review of the Zalman:

Quote:
I've got a q6700 @ 3300MHz. Stock cooler kept it at idle around 40-42C. With this cooler, it sits about about 25-26C. Max load was 59C or 60C. Now, after 4 hours of prime95, it never broke 38C.

May 20, 2008 7:20:48 PM

jerb said:
So do you think that my ddr2 choice will be ok? How high can i get the e8400?

Also, what would be the difference from the stock intel cooler and the zalman? I thought the zalman would be a great addition, but if it does not preform that much better than the stock cooler, then its just a waste (i think it will be better than stock, just maybee not worth the cost/per cool ratio)


Pc8000 memory isn't really expensive at all and to me it's worth it. You can always still clock it at 800Mhz if you wish. Honestly I think a Zalman is overpriced. Get an Arctic Cooler Freezer Pro 7. It's cheaper and a top performing cooler. I know I had one.
May 20, 2008 7:31:23 PM

Thank you for all your replies:) 


I am just gonna hope that my Mobo will recognize the e8400, and boots with my memory ok. As i recall this Mobo will support the Wolfdale Cpu right out of the box.

The main concern i have is the memory!!! everywhere i read and i mean everywhere!!! people are having boot problems and compatibility problems with Crucial ballistix memory. The problem seems to go hand in hand with gigabyte boards.
May 20, 2008 7:36:58 PM

@jerb
The Zalman 9700 is a couple of years old and things have moved on. It's not bad by any means it's just aged a bit. It's also a bit expensive for what it offers IMO. That being said it's still here : http://www.frostytech.com/top5heatsinks.cfm in 9th place.

I have no experience with your specific choice of RAM but Geil, Corsair, Mushkin, Kingston kits have never caused problems for me in my friends builds. As long as it's not a pure value kit with pathetic timings in upper one digit space it should be good. My Geil kit was the cheapest 2x1GB kit I could get in October and it overclocks to around 450MHz at 4-4-4-12 timings.

I wouldn't get PC2-8000 RAM or PC2-8500 over PC2-6400 but I'm biased as my Q6600 doesn't need over 400MHz FSB. That being said I'm planing a new build in July(tax returns are great to spend on useless computer parts) with Corsair Dominator 8500 and a Rampage Formula.
May 20, 2008 7:40:05 PM

I'm one of them, jerb. I could not get Crucial Ballistix DDR2-1066 to work reliably on two Gigabyte boards (GA-G33M-DS2R and -P35-DS3L), but also not on an Abit IP35 Pro. RAM voltage was properly set at 2.2v. It would seem to work for a while, or work intermittently, then fail, sometimes causing data corruption. I've not been able to test it and don't currently have a system I am willing to use for that purpose (but will soon). Both P35 boards are now running fine with DDR2-800 RAM.
May 20, 2008 7:53:17 PM

I am not an advocate for modular cables. A soldered connection is always better than a plug, crimp, quick disconnect connection. Why add more places for curent loss or failure if you can avoid it.
Thats just my professional opinion.

Look at the 80+ Cosairs, PC PW&C, etc.

If you plan to RMA anything back to Newegg be sure not to open the packages. Tell them they are not open when you request a RMA. You might not get charged a restocking fee.
May 20, 2008 8:29:03 PM

aevm said:
I think you need to improve your grammar. Even more importantly, you should ask first, buy later. It would also help to say what the parts are. It's not polite to make us click 10 links. Well, anyway, for what it's worth...

COOLER MASTER Stacker 830, $230 - nice but RC-690 would also do, under $100

GIGABYTE GA-EP35C-DS3R - bad idea. The DDr2/DDR3 combo is pointless and makes overclocking worse and the price higher. Get the GA-EP35-DS3R instead.

E8400, BFG 8800GTS 512MB - smart

Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) - make it 2x2GB

ENERMAX Liberty ELT500AWT 500W, $110 after rebate and shipping. I don't like it at that price. $90 buys you a 650TX instead.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005&Tpk=650TX

ZALMAN CNPS9700, $54. No. The Xigmatek HDT-S1283 is better, quieter, and cheaper.


I agree with Aevm (again) his components selection is just better. But you got yours already so whats the point?
May 20, 2008 8:46:43 PM

@rsetter1
I'm not a fan of modular cables either from an electrcal point of view. However they make cable management easier and a dangling mess of wires can cause damage to a motherboard (IE a zip tie breaks). I'm not a fan of convertibles either from a safety first point of view but they are much more fun to drive in nice weather. :) 

A Corsair TX 750W or 650W is cheaper than HX 620W. That's modularity's biggest drawback.
May 21, 2008 1:03:50 AM

Thx. you guys for posting.


I forgot to put in the post that my PSU is left over from my last build:)  , so basically its been good to me so im going to re use it.


The main thing i am worried about is my Ballistix memory working with my mobo. If any of u have got crucial ballistix working with this board let me know:) 
!