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Building Gaming PC, Need Opinions On Parts

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May 20, 2008 7:55:09 PM

Looking for a new computer and I'll probably build it, so here's the parts I've picked out. I'll use it primarily for gaming and trying to keep the price under $900. I might try my hand at overclocking, but I've never done it before, so I really don't need any serious overclocking gear. I'm also still lacking a case, PSU - need recommendations on wattage - and CPU cooler, so suggestions there are welcome

CPU
-EITHER-
Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 2.66GHz $175
-OR- --Obviously opinions here would be helpful :) 
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz $175

MOTHERBOARD
Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L $110

MEMORY
Kingston HyperX 1+2GB DDR2 1066 $100

HDD
Seagate Barracuda 250GB, 16MB Cache $65

GRAPHICS
-EITHER-
eVGA NVidia 8800 GTS 640MB $225
-OR- --Got a feeling y'all are gonna tell me to go with the 8800 :) 
eVGA NVidia 860GTS 512MB $175

OPTICAL
-- I have an external drive with a USB cable, but can I install Windows with it?
May 20, 2008 8:12:25 PM

Multi-tasking with multi-threaded apps, go with the Q6600 or Q9450. Just gaming, go with the E8400, not the E6750. The E8400 is generally cheaper, runs cooler, and has a larger cache.

For the memory, I'd go with any DDR2 800 with low timings (4-4-4-12).

Definitely go for the 8800 GTS 512.

May 20, 2008 8:24:13 PM

Go with DDR2 800 ram G.skill is a really good brand. 8800GTS (G92) wins. I wouldn't spend my money on quad at this time but it is a personal choice.
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May 20, 2008 8:32:07 PM

As others have said, go with DDR2 800. I'd get a 2x2GB kit.

Get the 8800GTS (G92) 512MB video card. Do not get the 640MB or 320MB version.

You'll probably be able to install windows with the external drive but internal ones are pretty cheap and they're faster. I'd get an internal SATA one.

Go with Lord Gornak's suggestions on processor.

Go with a ~500W PSU from a quality manufacturer. I suggest PC Power & Cooling, Corsair, or Seasonic.
May 20, 2008 8:47:02 PM

Hi. I was just curious where you're getting a Q6600 for $175?
May 20, 2008 8:54:37 PM

Lol apparently I'm not getting it for $175 :)  Apparently I messed the price up between finding it on Newegg and posting it here. Its $220 there
a b 4 Gaming
May 20, 2008 8:58:12 PM

On a P35 chipset mobo like the -DS3L, DDR2-1066 may not work reliably. I've seen a lot of comments on this, and experienced it personally on two boards. Get DDR2-800.

What games will you be playing?
May 20, 2008 9:01:39 PM

Okay, thought so. Darn. :) 

I'm still torn myself on the choice BTW. I've just bought my rig parts, and I got the Q6600, though I can easily send back and replace with a dual core. Best thing you can really do is evaluate exactly what you're going to be doing on your PC.

For what it's worth, I think it's an idea to get a lesser priced dual core than the E8400 (which is a similar price, $199), if you think the Q6600 overclocked would have fit your needs anyways (it would fit mine). And then upgrade at a later date.

It's something I'm thinking about myself. Just a thought.
May 20, 2008 9:08:52 PM

I really don't know... RTS games are my primary enjoyment, but I also like FPS, and would like to check out the latest Unreal Tournament, and maybe that Crysis game too... and from what I understand, those are hardware intensive games, right? As slow as my last computer was, I didn't even pay attention to newer games, it lagged with SW KOTOR I and II pretty bad
a b 4 Gaming
May 20, 2008 9:10:32 PM

Okay here's what I'd get for your $. Obviously there are other ways to go, but this would be a good solid system to start with.
CPU - $195 shipped! Fast and cool. Can OC pretty easy, but still very good at stock speeds.
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor - Retail

Mobo - $98 shipped! Best budget p35 based mobo right now. A little low on options, but is solid and a good starting point.
GIGABYTE GA-EP35-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail Ultra Durable 2 & Dynamic Energy Saver

GPU - $268 - $30 MIR = $238!! One of the better GPU's to get right now. Has 90 day "Step Up" program, if you want to upgrade within the 90 purchase timeframe. Limited lifetime warranty too!!
EVGA 512-P3-N841-AR GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail Overclocked version at 670MHz

Memory - $85 shipped! Solid memory and pretty fast. Good for a budget build. I'd go with CAS4 stuff, if you plan on OC'ing at all. It'll be about $20 or more for the CAS4 stuff. You can decide, but this is a good set to start with.
CORSAIR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail

PSU - $110 - $20 MIR = $90!!! One of the better PSU's out there in this price range. Has 2x6+2 pin PCI-e power connectors, so you'll be able to power up any single GPU solution out there. There's 52A on the 12V rail and it has a 5 yr. warranty too!
CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply 100 - 240 V UL, CE, CB, TUV, FCC, CCC - Retail

Case - $86 shipped!! One of the better cases to get. It's cool and doesn't cost an arm and a leg. Lots of room too.
COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Mid Tower Case Retail

HD - $70 shipped!! Decent sized HD for the $. If you want more either buy it now or add another HD later.
Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD3200AAKS 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

DVD Burner - $33 shipped! Retail version, so you'll have the software to read/burn DVD's.
LITE-ON Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Burner with LightScribe - Retail

Total = ~$940 - $50 MIR's = $890!!! That should be a system that should last you quite some time.
May 20, 2008 9:12:10 PM

For quads I would just wait. No need to get it right now. I would wait for the price drop.
May 20, 2008 9:39:26 PM

If it's just for games, really, get a dual core.

If you were doing rendering work, video editing, Virtualization, or intensive Visual Studio compiling or the like then a quad core would be what you want. I'm stuck because I'd like the better rendering.. it just depends on how important this stuff is.

Future games will have the support for quad cores but that's surely a long way off.. is the consensus I agree with currently.
Anyhow..

No modular cables on that PSU. :(  You only need a good 550W if you're only running 1 HDD too, btw, though I think 2 would work too (my friend's setup is like this).

A really cheap solution is Antec Sonata III. A more current, cooler solution is that cooler master or like an Antec Nine Thousand.

There's an ECS 8800GTS G92 on sale for $170 after Rebate. Search for it if you won't use the Step Up program.

Otherwise that's a good build and very similar to what I went with.
May 21, 2008 1:34:54 PM

Lunyone, that was exactly what i wanted, thanks for the advice

What's wrong with the 320 and 640MB versions of the 8800GTS?
May 22, 2008 3:16:48 PM

WackyWormer said:
Lunyone, that was exactly what i wanted, thanks for the advice

What's wrong with the 320 and 640MB versions of the 8800GTS?


They use an older GPU. They are nowhere near as good as the 8800GTS (G92) 512MB card.
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