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May 21, 2008 1:40:07 AM

After a fair amount of research, this is the most bang/buck that I can come up with. Should produce a gaming rig with high performance at a mid-range price. Anyone see any room for improvement at this price point? I already own a keyboard/mouse, 24" 1900X1200 monitor, and a Klipsch 2.1 THX speaker system.

Total Cost: $1286.00

SAMSUNG 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model SH-S203N - OEM
Item #: N82E16827151154
$28.99

COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Item #: N82E16811119137
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy $84.99

Seagate Barracuda ES.2 ST3250310NS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM 32MB cache
Item #: N82E16822148309
$79.99

Rosewill RP600V2-S-SL 600W SLI Ready-ATX12V V2.01 Power Supply - Retail
Item #: N82E16817182032
$69.99

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-4GBPQ - Retail
$84.99

GIGABYTE GA-EP35-DS3R LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Dynamic Energy Saver Ultra Durable II Intel Motherboard - Retail
$119.99

Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80570E8400 - Retail
$194.99

Microsoft Windows Vista 32-Bit Home Premium for System Builders Single Pack DVD - OEM
$94.99

ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler - Retail
Item #: N82E16835186134
$26.99

MSI N9800GX2-M2D1G GeForce 9800 GX2 1GB (512MB per GPU) 512-bit (256-bit per GPU) GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
Item #: N82E16814127337
$499.00

May 21, 2008 3:22:57 AM

You have a very nice system, but you mar it with a terrible PSU like Rosewill. Look at this PSU instead, it will serve you much better:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139004&Tpk=550VX
Corsair VX550W $90 after rebate

Notice how a 550W is $104 before a rebate, that is another clue that the Rosewill (600W at 70 isnt very good). Corsair gets a Gold award from HardOCP which is by most the through and rigorous PSU testing site I have found.
May 21, 2008 3:33:51 AM

the case seems really overpriced cm 690 cost me like 40 bucks eight months ago. try to find it for a cheaper price.

i'd go for the 500gb hard drive from seagate. it's twice the memory for only 20 more bucks at newgg.com at least.

maybe 64bit version of home premium for os

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May 21, 2008 4:06:58 AM

Are you overclocking? If so, get a good aftermarket cpu cooler...

Hehe, nevermind, I guess Im too tired to be on here tonight. I didnt even see it in the list.
May 21, 2008 7:51:38 PM

Thanks guys.

godless - The last time I ordered a 'high-end' well-reviewed PSU for a build it arrived DOA and was a pain to RMA. I know, it was only one isolated bad experience. However, the next two builds I did I used Rosewill PSU's in order to stay within budget on computers I built for friends, and so far so good. The older system has been clicking along fine for about a year with an overclocked Core2 and a 8800GTS powered by the Rosewill PSU - no reported problems.
May 21, 2008 7:52:35 PM

englandr-- yes, i'll be overclocking the Wolfdale to around 3.6 with any luck. I think the freezer pro should be up to the task from what I've read.
May 21, 2008 8:42:55 PM

Generally I see pretty solid choices.

It's your rig but I wouldn't trust my fancy new components to be powered by a Tier 5 PSU.

I'd probably swap the HDD to a 7200.11 500gb drive.

The OEM dvd rom drives don't come with any burning/dvd software. If you need the software make sure to get the retail version instead.

I've read that the EP35-DS3R has problems overclocking with its current bios. you might want to do with the older P35-DS3R instead.
May 21, 2008 8:57:30 PM

Pardon my ignorance, but what does teir 5 PSU mean? I get your point nonetheless. This looks like a pretty good deal to me - after rebate, only about $20 more than Rosewill for PC Power and Cooling:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

BTW, does anyone know how much difference it makes that the Gigabyte MB doesn't have PCI-E 2.0 to maximize the GX2's potential? Is it worth spending the extra dough on a Asus P5N-D ($150) and putting up with the stability issues of nForce 750i chipset?
May 21, 2008 10:01:10 PM

why dont you guys warn him?
9800gx2 is an extreme waste of money right now. just be patient, in one month the new generation of gfx cards will arrive, both nvidia and ati. and they both offer a brandnew gpu too (unlike the gx2) :ouch: 
May 21, 2008 10:04:25 PM

weinzey said:
why dont you guys warn him?
9800gx2 is an extreme waste of money right now. just be patient, in one month the new generation of gfx cards will arrive, both nvidia and ati. and they both offer a brandnew gpu too (unlike the gx2) :ouch: 

Makes me wonder if the GX2 is kind of like the 7950 was - SLI on one card as a stop gap until the new family of cards (much faster of course) came out. . .
May 21, 2008 10:14:09 PM

somehow thats very true, nevertheless the 9800gx2 is a very powerful card and was a good high end purchase a few month ago. but now the time to wait is just too short to justify a purchase of an old technology, especially for in that price range
May 21, 2008 10:17:25 PM

sry, double post
May 22, 2008 1:47:51 AM

godless said:
read this about top tier psu:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=10...


Interesting. Thanks.

Do you know what those tiers are based on? Actual testing, manufacturer specs, reputation, message board anecdotes, or what? From the thread, it sounds like it's mostly based on reputation and message board anecdotes.
May 22, 2008 2:08:22 AM

Well. Look at HardOCP Power supply testing. They absolutely have some of the best tests on the Internet. They have not tested any Rosewill supplies, but PC&P gets a really good rating.

Who makes the Rosewill? IF you can find information you can usually get a great idea of how good it is.
May 22, 2008 2:58:58 AM

Rosewill makes a good generic product on many different types of hardware. I have used them to install serial ports pci cards with super ease after using another more popular brand that seemed impossible to install. Power supplies are a little different story and too much is dependant on it to go cheap on a power supply.

I have found myself looking to corsair 1st when I need a power supply now. I havent been done wrong by them yet.

As far as your video card options, if it was me I would put my video card on ebay and sell it, take the money and put more with it and get a more powerful single card for now. Adding a second identical card to the one you have will definitely help you to a degree but I think a better single card would be more beneficial.

If you dont want to deal with that then just buy a second card and you will most likely be happy. The only thing about that idea is not all games take advantage of and utilize SLI so you may not get as constistent of a performance spike as you would with a single more powerful card.
May 22, 2008 3:31:24 AM

I agrre with weinzey. Right now the 9800GX2 is a waste of money and in 1 month the G200 mcore will be out in the 9900GTS and 9900GTX which should both rape the 9800GX2

9900GTX specs

512 bit memory bus
1GB of memory
240 stream processors
May 22, 2008 6:04:45 PM

It sounds good. We will see if it actually performs as you would anticipate. Hopefully it will...
May 22, 2008 6:48:13 PM

I would pick Abit IP35 Pro if you can afford it get it...
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