Anyone know where to buy a cheap pentium D besides Ebay?
Why would you want a pentium D? Old, hot and under powered. Get something worthwhile.
maybe he wants to blow it up or has an ooold board.
Pentium D's I believe can be found in bins nationwide.
| Quote : maybe he wants to blow it up or has an ooold board. |
Must be.
Still seems like a waste.
Better off saving up a little more and getting a worth while system.
Just my 0,02€
Pentium D = 2 - 4 MB cache and somewhat good performance as well as somewhat cheap. seen a Pentium D Extreme go for $64 on ebay.
Pentium D Extreme > E22xx and cheaper.
And reason why i mentioned cache is because i was told moire chache is better for gaming.
A e2180 at 2Ghz will most likely beat the crap of a pentium D at 4Ghz. And you can easilly hitwith OC 3Ghz+ on the e2xxx. It's like 5$ more than the pentium D you mentioned on newegg, and you will save that on electricity with time
Then why not get a Core2Duo? The Pentium D's are not worth the money anymore. They run hotter and slower than any Core2Duo. For $65, I would still take a Pentium E CPU over any Pentium D.
| ChaosGS wrote : Pentium D = 2 - 4 MB cache and somewhat good performance as well as somewhat cheap. seen a Pentium D Extreme go for $64 on ebay.
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E22xx will smoke Pentium D Extreme. Cache doesn't mean jack as compared to the clock per clock advances.
Save up and buy a new CPU the E22xx will mop the floor with the extreme Pentium and don't forget that the Pentium is redundant were the E22xx is fairly future proof.
If I recall from another thread, he had one of the E2xxx and didn't like the temps and how he wasn't able to overclock on a stock fan.
E1200 and its faulty. 70C on load on stock clocking is faulty.
So, why not get a better heatsink? Also, have you checked the cooler to see if it was seated right? Done any troubleshooting? Contacted Intel to see if there is a way to see if the chip is faulty? To be blunt, it would be stupid to go from a Core2Duo CPU to a Pentium D because of temp issues. They weren't called "Pres-hots" for no good reason.
I had a pentium d, didnt get very hot at all. 2.66 ocd to 3.8 and never exceeded 60C when it was 90F (108F in the case) in the room (was in the Philippines).
| ChaosGS wrote : E1200 and its faulty. 70C on load on stock clocking is faulty. |
ROFLMAO another case of the user not knowing how to install the 775 HSF correctly
that E1200 would probablty run pasivly with a pentium d heat block
| ChaosGS wrote : Pentium D = 2 - 4 MB cache and somewhat good performance as well as somewhat cheap. seen a Pentium D Extreme go for $64 on ebay. |
They're cheap for a reason, everyone wants to get rid of them.
| ChaosGS wrote : Pentium D Extreme > E22xx and cheaper. |
The Pentium D EE could barely hold it's own against a C2D based celeron.
| ChaosGS wrote : And reason why i mentioned cache is because i was told moire chache is better for gaming. |
You were lied to.
| ChaosGS wrote : E1200 and its faulty. 70C on load on stock clocking is faulty. |
You're doing it wrong.
LOL downgrade your cpu to a Pentium D good one haha, when you dont install the cooler on that new system properly you will realise what heat problems are
Cache means nothing, its more how its implemented and used etc - age old comparison - Celeron 400mhz (128k L2) vs P2 400 (512k L2) vs AMD K6-2 400mhz (1mb L2) - because of the implementation and design the Celeron 400mhz came out on top, same deal with Northwood vs Prescott, A64 vs Pentium D etc - specs are one thing, performance is another.
Please whatever you do next, dont say the pentium d is also running faster (GHz)
Question - if your Pentium D was so great, why did you upgrade to a Celeron E1200?
| apache_lives wrote : ROFLMAO another case of the user not knowing how to install the 775 HSF correctly |
wow you sure know what your talking about. didnt read the actual topic. wow another case of people not reading
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cause my house burned down from a bon fire down the street.
I'm confused, all you need to know is get any core 2 duo based processor (that includes any celeron and pentium dual core's)
I agree, i am ordering (now as i type this) a E2180 and and arctic cooling freezer pro. I will get what i want this time (as long as it is not faulty).
because, you know, nothing can be faulty at all, if it is, the thing you had before it was better right? ya, things dont always work they way you want, it happens, get over it and move on buddy.
Your CPU was not faulty Chaos... you can NOT reuse thermal paste over and over again after install. Thermal paste is meant to fill in the tiny imperfections on the processor and the HS base so that all of the processor is being cooled. You can not apply thermal paste then boot the computer up for more than a few seconds without ruining the thermal paste, you needed to use new thermal paste, that was all.
| BaCoSs wrote : because, you know, nothing can be faulty at all, if it is, the thing you had before it was better right? ya, things dont always work they way you want, it happens, get over it and move on buddy. |
Learn to make sense so that others understand, and dont post the way obvious either please its rather annoying.
i used new thermal paste, re-read the thread.
| ChaosGS wrote : i used new thermal paste, re-read the thread. |
still no use if the hsf isnt seated and installed correctly!
Not hard to get 4 pins in 4 holes.
Hey Chaos, I'll trade you my D805 for your E1200, straight up. PM me.
Pentium D is the slowest and the most stupid dual core made by Intel. It was thing of the past so be smart ChaosGS. Any athlon X2 can beat any pentium D.
Some Temperature software reads the Temps wrong. I found that out when I though my AMD was reaching 92 degrees C, it wasn't as I found out later.
| ChaosGS wrote : Not hard to get 4 pins in 4 holes. |
you'd think that
| Quote : Some Temperature software reads the Temps wrong. I found that out when I though my AMD was reaching 92 degrees C, it wasn't as I found out later. |
Iv seen alot of cheap asus boards read E2200's @ 1 - 5ºc when the room temp is atleast 25ºc - 20+ºc or atleast 10x off, so the best tool i use to check temps is my finger - too hot to keep my finger on the hsf means heat issues etc (60ºc +)
| Quote : Pentium D is the slowest and the most stupid dual core made by Intel. It was thing of the past so be smart ChaosGS. Any athlon X2 can beat any pentium D. |
lol no the pentium d is better cause "moire chache is better"
just like TDP, Clock speeds etc
out of interest, is the AMD X2 still a better buy then Intels low end?
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If you aren't overclocking then the X2s are still a good deal.
The average user who just wants a machine that works, AMD offer the best processors for a budget price tag.
| joefriday wrote : Hey Chaos, I'll trade you my D805 for your E1200, straight up. PM me. |
To late just bought the E2180 and sending back the E1200, besides you dont want a defective CPU.
| speedbird wrote : The average user who just wants a machine that works, AMD offer the best processors for a budget price tag. |
Yep, i thought about the 5200 (i think that was it), but i saw that the E1200 could oc easily on stock so i decided to get that instead. All i want is a fast good computer, reliable to.
And apache just because you find putting 4 pins in 4 holes does not mean i find it hard.
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I was talking about the average computer buyer who does not even know what overclocking is, but yeah Intel is better for people who do want to boast performance for free
| ChaosGS wrote : To late just bought the E2180 and sending back the E1200, besides you dont want a defective CPU.
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you know, it never gets old - i work in a computer store, head tech, you wouldnt believe how many people try building the system them selves, put everything together, then struggle for a week trying to make it stay on, or not hang and lag etc, they come in with the system, ask wether they seated the HSF correctly and i get the same answer every time which is either "bla bla iv been in the industry for x amount of years, yes i know how to install it iv build 10 computers bla bla bla" or "yeah its installed correctly, its easy, i think its something else" - NEVER gets old, i have fun ringing those same people and hitting them for a fee cause they think there hot shots or something.
Out of interest, what motherboard were you using? wouldnt be an ASUS P5N-MX by any chance? (or similar)
| ChaosGS wrote : To late just bought the E2180 and sending back the E1200, besides you dont want a defective CPU. |
I'm sure he just wants the RMA money...
LOL...No, I would have used the e1200. Still better than a D805, albeit slightly. I'm old hand at this; a little temp reading issue is not a problem.
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