CPUZ shows Q9450 throttling down to 2.0 Ghz??????

[rkowalk]

What the junk is up with this? I have a p5q-e mobo and have no idea why this is happening!
I guess i am quite the noob after all.
Anyone got ideas why?

 

[jimmysmitty]

You know this has been answered so many times before. There is this cool thing on Intel chips called Speedstep. What it does is when your CPU is idle it lowers the CPU multiplier to 6 therfore giving your CPU a speed of 2GHz (333x6). Your stock speed is 2.66GHz (333x8).

If you want it to run at 2.66GHz all the time you go into BIOS and turn off Speedstep. That will get it to run at 2.66GHz full time.

 

[TechnologyCoordinator]

Answers.com - SpeedStep

If your have a core 2 duo CPU that is not running at full stock speed, the reason is Intels SpeedStep

So for example:

E4400 stock speed is 2ghz.

200x10= 2ghz <--stock
200x6= 1.2ghz <-- speed step reducing power at idle

E6600 stock speed is 2.4ghz
266x9= 2.394ghz or 2.4ghz <-- stock speed
266x6= 1.596ghz or 1.6ghz <--speed step reducing power at idle

When your PC is at idle, speed step kicks in to reduce the mulit, and vcore. This allows lower power consumption, and heat. Its basically the same as AMD's Cool-n-quiet. When you put your system on a full load, speed step should put the stock multiplier back.

To better understand how to figure out the default or stock multiplier, you will need to know what your CPU's rated FSB is. For example:

All Allendales (E4xxx) or C2D Pentiums (E2xxx) are rated at 800mhz. They are Quad Pumped so you divide by 4.
800/4=200mhz.

All the older Conroes (E6300/6400/6320/6420/6600) are rated at 1066mhz.
1066/4=266mhz.

Newer C2D (E6550/6750/ect) are rated at 1333mhz.
1333/4=333.25mhz.

So to determine your actual or default multiplier for 4 examples:

E4400 2ghz
2000/200=10 <-multi

E2140 1.6ghz
1600/200=8 <-multi

E6400 2.13ghz
2130/266=8 <-multi

E6750 2.66ghz
2660/333=7.9 or 8 <-multi (this would be rounded)

You can use a handy tool to monitor your multiplier with CPU-Z. To simulate a load, try using Orthos Stress Prime 2004. That is one easy program to load dual or quad core CPUs. In running that program, it should force your multiplier back to its normal stock setting. Its also a handy tool to help you determine if you have a stable system, thermal and CPU/Memory wise.

And here are examples of other threads created, Core 2 Duos that seem to confuse people:

E6750 showing at 2.0 GHZ

Kentsfield Q6600 Core Speed only 1.86 Ghz

Can someone tell me why the 1.87GHz is next to the 2.66Ghz?

e6750 with a mind of it's own...

Newb builder, why is my CPU not running at its speed?

Bios Info:

Speed Step is also known by C1E and EIST (Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology). You can find these setting in your bios. Not all bios are the same, but usually have both C1E and EIST as separte functions.

To disable speed step completely, you will need to disable both C1E & EIST. Also, when EIST is disabled, you should be able to adjust the CPU ratio or multiplier higher or lower, which will force it to stay at that specified multiplier, and specified vcore. So on a CPU that has a multi of 10, the choices will be 6-10. You will not be able to go higher then the original stock multiplier, unless you brought the Extreme Edition Intel CPU.

I've done some tests that Zorg has offerred to me to try. Now with C1E disabled, and EIST enabled, I can go into windows and bring up CPU-Z to see what is going on. When you bring up Power Options from the control panel, and switch it to "Always On", CPU-Z should show the stock multiplier even at idle and the vcore should be at stock voltage (1.325v). And when you switch it to "Minimal Power Management" then CPU-Z will drop the Multiplier to its lowest, and the vcore should drop below stock voltage. I've tried it with my system OC'd and it still works fine.

Screen Caps on my Dad's OC (2.4ghz) E4300 (1.8ghz Stock Speed) with Speed Step Enabled:

http://members.cox.net/fade.2.black/C2D/ss-prime-off.jpg
At Idle - 1.6ghz (x6 lowest available multiplier)

http://members.cox.net/fade.2.black/C2D/ss-prime-on.jpg
Load - 2.4ghz (x9 stock or default)

If you check out the hyperlinks, you will find AMD Cool-n-Quiet links to check out.

<<<<<<<<<EDIT BY MODERATOR: ADDED LINK TO CompuTronix's POST C2D/C2Q TEMP GUIDE>>>>>>>>>

Core 2 Quad and Duo Temperature Guide

 

[speedbird]

A feature called Speedstep that throttles down the processor when full speed is not required. Why is this good? well it saves energy while your doing less CPU intensive tasks like surfing the net, and when you require the the extra speed the CPU will throttle back to it's full speed. It's an intelligent feature, so you don't need to do anything

Some will tell you to disable it, but that is foolish keep it enabled.

 

[Zorg]

Be sure to disable C1E along with the speedstep, it's noted in the passage that TC linked. It's more than likely that the C1E is the offender.

As said, once you see the difference then leave C1E enabled you can leave EIST disabled as it won't be needed. There really is no reason not to unless you are doing the uberclock and it makes your system unstable.

 

[rkowalk]

Um... sorry guys i realized that right after i posted that. I thought i had disabled it, but thanks for the quick responses.

 

[TechnologyCoordinator]

Um... sorry guys i realized that right after i posted that. I thought i had disabled it, but thanks for the quick responses.

No problem! The forums contain a large amount of information and it is easier just to ask for information rather than search for it.

Enjoy your processor!