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New Lian-Li Cases, What Are They Thinking?

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July 1, 2008 5:20:37 AM

Hey I just noticed these new cases from Lian-Li. They definitely look great, but ugh the prices!

New PC-A77

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Definitely nice, but for $320, that is really steep, though the fan controller kind of makes up for that.

New PC-A7010

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Ugh this one is trying to kill me! It is exactly the same as the PC-A70 except the front looks different, and costs SO much more! Look:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Compare $329 to $229, that's a $100 difference, and they are IDENTICAL in everything except the front!

New PC-A20

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This one looks nice... looks quiet... decent cooling and nothing really special... wonder how much.... THREE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY-NINE DOLLARS ~ $389?! Honestly I don't understand these new cases, sure Lian-Li has always been known for it's unbeatable quality, and the price to go with it. What I do not get is why they are charging such ridiculous amounts of money for cases that are almost totally identical to their previous cases which cost far less and had no real faults that these cases could fix!

What do you guys think? I have never really cared about Lian-Li until recently when the idea of spending more than $100 on a case started to make sense to me, so is this how it goes. Will these cases get extreme price drops soon? I am debating whether to buy the Lian-Li PC-A70 sometime before Xmas, but the PC-A7010 does look nicer. If it is $250 then I'll buy the PC-A7010, but I can't really go any higher. Reason is what ever case I get will have these purchased with it:
http://www.lian-li.com/v2/en/product/product06.php?pr_i...
http://www.lian-li.com/v2/en/product/product06.php?pr_i...
http://www.lian-li.com/v2/en/product/product06.php?pr_i...

Thats an extra $100+ not to mention the $60+ for fans and $20 for lights!

If I have forgotten any of the new cases feel free to post them. I guess I just want to see the forum goers opinions on these cases.

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July 1, 2008 5:44:22 AM

Yes, their Full Tower cases have always been prohibitively expensive. And the newer models are always carry a premium over the older designs.
July 1, 2008 6:07:42 AM

I'd say that I am not surprised, most of their cases have sported a hefty premium price over the years and that's especially true for their full tower case. Quality has a price and Lian Li is definitely charging for it. Most people would find their cases boring and I don't totally disagree but construction and built material are top notch. I think they appeal to a crowd that enjoys quite and subdue elegance as well as one with deep pockets.
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July 1, 2008 7:52:04 AM

The_Blood_Raven said:
Hey I just noticed these new cases from Lian-Li. They definitely look great, but ugh the prices!

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What do you guys think? I have never really cared about Lian-Li until recently when the idea of spending more than $100 on a case started to make sense to me, so is this how it goes. Will these cases get extreme price drops soon? I am debating whether to buy the Lian-Li PC-A70 sometime before Xmas, but the PC-A7010 does look nicer. If it is $250 then I'll buy the PC-A7010, but I can't really go any higher. Reason is what ever case I get will have these purchased with it:
http://www.lian-li.com/v2/en/product/product06.php?pr_i...
http://www.lian-li.com/v2/en/product/product06.php?pr_i...
http://www.lian-li.com/v2/en/product/product06.php?pr_i...

Thats an extra $100+ not to mention the $60+ for fans and $20 for lights!

If I have forgotten any of the new cases feel free to post them. I guess I just want to see the forum goers opinions on these cases.


Uhhm I would go to:
www.performance-pcs.com
since they specialise in cases and powersupplies... You can actually email Hank and he will tell you relative merits of the newer Lian-Li cases. Their prices also appear to be better than Newegg... They even have better pictures of the cases than Newegg!

Nice choice of cases BTW!! Think of it this way... A case is an investment that will last years and years... Add up all the CPU and GPU changes you make over 10 years versus the $200-$300 paid out once for the case initially!! The only other manufactures that come close are Antec and Silverstone - even then it is not that close!!

I would look out for removeable top and hot-swap SATA trays (nice!!) in the new cases... I don't think the older models (read: A70) have these features? Well worth the extra in my opinion...

I am a total Lian-Li fanboi :sol:  :sol:  :sol:  (currently have an older watercooled PC7077 model).

Bob


July 1, 2008 8:08:59 AM

fatcat said:
Quality as a price and Lian Li is definitely charging for it. Most people would find their cases boring and I don't totally disagree but construction and built material are top notch. I think they appeal to a crowd that enjoys quite and subdue elegance as well as one with deep pocket.


Agree 100%

What I don't like is that they don't have motherboard trays so it can be difficult to work with your motherboard. I've also had problems on midi cases with the size of the chamber for the PSU.

UD

July 1, 2008 8:21:35 AM

because suckers will pay it is why, 55 bucks for a Centurion 5 series, and I did not cut my hand off installing stuff, plenty of space, and the rest of the time it sits there, same as the expensive cases !
July 1, 2008 8:29:04 AM

UncleDave said:
Agree 100%

What I don't like is that they don't have motherboard trays so it can be difficult to work with your motherboard. I've also had problems on midi cases with the size of the chamber for the PSU.

UD


1) All those newer cases have removeable motherboard trays (finally!!). The A70 claims to as well (not sure 'bout that one).
2) The_Blood_Raven is looking at server cases (i.e. more room for the PSU!!)

Bob
July 1, 2008 8:29:53 AM

royalcrown said:
because suckers will pay it is why, 55 bucks for a Centurion 5 series, and I did not cut my hand off installing stuff, plenty of space, and the rest of the time it sits there, same as the expensive cases !


Yawn. Go and Troll elsewhere plz...

Bob
July 1, 2008 10:36:19 AM

bobwya said:
1) All those newer cases have removeable motherboard trays (finally!!). The A70 claims to as well (not sure 'bout that one).
2) The_Blood_Raven is looking at server cases (i.e. more room for the PSU!!)

Bob



Thanks for the update!

UD.
July 1, 2008 4:34:40 PM

Yeah the PC-A70 does have a removable motherboard tray. The PC-A70 is not meant to be a server case for me, just a big case with GREAT cooling, and thanks BobWya's link I might have other options. I used to think Silverpcs.com had the best prices for Lian-Li cases. royalcrown is right, if he is plenty happy with the Cent. 5 then good for him, I am just not that lucky. Hey if you want to spend $400+ (case plus accessories) like I do on a case then good for you, if you can be happy with a case that costs $50 then GREAT for you! It all comes down to taste, I want to see that Lian-Li PC-A70B glowing red with menace, red LED fans of course. Anyway I understand the prices ( Lian-Li quality premium + new model premium = price), I do not understand what you are getting for them. The PC-A77 I can see, it is different then the previous full tower models and sports a nice fan controller included. The PC-A20 would also be fine if it was at a similar price, but alas it is not and it is definitely overpriced. Then we get to the PC-A7010 which is a PC-A70 with a different front panel, everything else is exactly the same, and it costs almost $100 more. I suppose these prices will fall, though I am not naive enough to think people are not buying these cases, but I know that the real sales are waiting for the price cut. Thanks to BobWya's link that price cut might not have to be too extreme. Yes, I did know that Newegg.com terribly overcharges for Lian-Li and Silverstone cases, but it was still a valid reference I thought. So what do you think of the cases individually, the PC-A77 and PC-A7010 are very nice looking cases and of course with a little bit of Lian-Li built modding, they can be even nicer!

Edit: BobWya I am in love with this site, they have pictures that you can actually discern what is what on a black case, and the prices are great. Honestly I can not even count how many times I have been forced to look for a silver or white version of a case on Newegg just so I could see what it looked like!
July 1, 2008 9:01:22 PM

The_Blood_Raven said:

Edit: BobWya I am in love with this site, they have pictures that you can actually discern what is what on a black case, and the prices are great. Honestly I can not even count how many times I have been forced to look for a silver or white version of a case on Newegg just so I could see what it looked like!


Performance PCs are really helpful with finding out about stuff and shipping to the UK (for me) is a steal. Hanks takes Paypal and ships the stuff US Postal Service (so generally no customs charges this end if I don't overspend on each order!!) I even ordered my current Lian Li 7077 case from them (+PC Power Cooling PSU, waterblocks, etc., etc.). Don't ask them to do any case mods 'cause they do a very amaterish job of this (well cutting out for PA120.3 rad.) Mind you the side vents I asked for look smokin'!!

It is a very handy website for ordering cases ' cause you can examine them from every angle and spot all the flaws and useful features... Also they have an excellent range of PSU's... I had to get my Ultra X3 1000Watt PSU from Hank as I couldn't find any available in the UK!!

Like I said BEFORE with the newer Lian-Li cases the harddisk trays now have hot-swap SATA connectors built-in = price premium (not sure where the rest of the money is going)

Bob

July 1, 2008 11:50:55 PM

bobwya said:
Yawn. Go and Troll elsewhere plz...

Bob


Jump off a bridge.
July 2, 2008 12:48:15 AM

Hot swappable for $100+, nope still do not get it. Yeah I refuse to allow a dealer to mod any of my products, because they usually rush it. Also the PSU prices really suck there, but the case prices are great!
July 2, 2008 7:05:51 AM

The_Blood_Raven said:
Hot swappable for $100+, nope still do not get it. Yeah I refuse to allow a dealer to mod any of my products, because they usually rush it. Also the PSU prices really suck there, but the case prices are great!


Hot swap could rush to $50 USD easily (well Lian Li hotswap :sol:  )... Yeh not sure where the rest is going with out seeing the case up close... Maybe thicker aluminum or something like that??

Its bi-atch working with a case without a removable motherboard tray so I am glad Lian Li sorted out this problem (with the 7077 case I have).

Don't forget the prices over here the UK are generally much higher than the USA (although the warranty is often longer). The PSU prices at Performance-PCs are comparable with those over here...

Bob
July 2, 2008 4:22:37 PM

Yeah I understand that, just seems that they sell PSUs at the retail price, atleast over here. I never really liked motherboard trays myself, I usually end up taking out the motherboard anyway.
July 3, 2008 12:01:28 AM

The_Blood_Raven said:
I have found more new cases!

PC-7FW
http://www.lian-li.com/v2/en/product/product06.php?pr_i...
Supposed to be sub $200, I believe it is Lian-Li's answer to the Antec 900.

PC-V1000Z
http://www.lian-li.com/v2/en/product/product06.php?pr_i...
Finally Lian-Li is getting it with this series, reverted motherboard designs suck!

What do you think of these and the other new cases?


PC-7FW
http://www.lian-li.com/v2/en/product/product06.php?pr_index=267&cl_index=1&sc_index=25&ss_index=62&g=spec
"Mudlarized Device Cage" - something is lost in the translation... Says a lot though!!

Those 2 cases are complete ****...

The answer to the Antec 900/1200 is:
http://www.lian-li.com/v2/en/product/product06.php?pr_index=132&cl_index=1&sc_index=26&ss_index=67

Antec however don't have an answer for:
http://www.lian-li.com/v2/en/product/product06.php?pr_index=131&cl_index=1&sc_index=26&ss_index=67
Now that is sweet... A new server case with E-ATX MB support.

Both nice if you want an aircooled rig... (Since standard Lian-Li cases are a bit short on airflow...)

Bob

July 3, 2008 1:27:52 AM

I disagree I think the PC-P60/80 are more geared towards competing with Cooler Master and Thermaltake. I think the new PC-7FW is more geared towards the 900's throat, considering the price and features. Also, Lian-Li has been doing really well with the airflow lately, look at the PC-A70 that thing has great airflow, and Lian-Li offers a factory modded top panel that can support up to 3 fans for some truly insane airflow. Then add their PCI cooler and you have even more airflow. That is what I plan on doing, come on 2 front intake fans, 2 inner intake fans, 2 rear exhaust fans, 1 side intake fan, and 3 top exhaust fans all 120mm! Though some of their models can be lacking I think Lian-Li has provided the potential for some the perfect cases.
July 3, 2008 2:10:57 AM

royalcrown said:
because suckers will pay it is why, 55 bucks for a Centurion 5 series, and I did not cut my hand off installing stuff, plenty of space, and the rest of the time it sits there, same as the expensive cases !



Yup, its one thing to spend money on a good quality case with decent features; its another thing to drop 400$ on a hunk of metal that sits on your desk.

I spent like 100$ on a antec 900; and even with its flaws I like it a lot. I think that I could find better things to spend the other 300$ including but not limited to beer, gasoline, groceries; or in terms of new pc hardware, PSU, RAM, GPU, CPU any of which can typically be had for the same 300$ and provide a better upgrade..

Lian Li certainly does make good cases, but I would not go so far to say that I think they are appropriately priced :p 
July 3, 2008 3:57:03 AM

I agree, somewhat. Look at Silverstone, they are the only self-proclaimed competitors of Lian-Li. Look at the TJ09 for example, it can not beat the Antec 900 in cooling and is bland on features. The case has been out for a long while and yet it is still $280+, that is a bad price. Look at Lian-Li the PC-A70 is a totally aluminum case like the TJ09, cools much better, higher standard of quality, has great features, and is largely hand built. This case has been out just about as long as the TJ09, maybe not as long, and it can be found for slightly over $200. That is priced appropriately, the news ones however are definitely NOT.
July 3, 2008 6:58:23 AM

I agree that's a lot of money to put on a case but I'll be honest, if I could I would buy one for sure. As for me, I like the PC-A77 but I don't think I'll get one any time soon.
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