800$ Gaming PC? Help!

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What's the best bang for the buck-parts you can get for an 800$ PC?
Monitor, speakers, wireless card, keyboard and mouse included to make an 800$ PC.

Monitor MUST be 19"/20".

CPU:
CPU Fan/Heatsink: (Thermal Paste Included)
Memory:
Hard Drive:
Video/Graphics Card:
Speakers:
Monitor:
Keyboard:
Mouse:
Sound Card:
Wireless Card:
Power Supply Unit:
Case:
Motherboard:
 

febtiger

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actually if you say that 500$ because of the wireless card, speakers, mouse and keyboard.

On an older issue of maximumpc it shows a competition between 2 people who are going to build 500$ pc's and see which one is faster. I want to know what kind of parts i'm going to get right now. It's July 01, 2008 right now at my place
 

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Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250310AS 250GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s $54.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148261

Acer X193W+BD Black 19" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor $159.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009127

ASUS EAH4850/HTDI/512M Radeon HD 4850 512MB $194.99($164.99 after $30.00 Mail-In Rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121253

Logitech S-220 2.1 Multimedia Speaker System $22.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16836121014

GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-DS4 AM2+/AM2 AMD 790X ATX Ultra Durable II AMD Motherboard $124.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128075

OCZ Reaper HPC 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 $60.99($45.99 after $15.00 Mail-In Rebate pdf )
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227239

AMD Phenom 9600 Agena 2.3GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 2MB L3 Cache Socket AM2+ 95W Quad-Core Processor $169.88

Rosewill R230-P-BK Black 0.5mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $25.99

Rosewill RP500-2 ATX12V v2.01 500W Power Supply 44.99


$859.91
-$45.00 rebates
$814.91

no keyboard or mouse
does not include shipping
no cd disk drive (forgot it lol)
no wireless card

crossfire x capable for the future
 

febtiger

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Thanks cal. Gonna show this to my friend, hes only got $800 and wants a gaming pc.

I'm not gonna game with it. My friend is.....
My comp is not way better either lol.... (check my steam id, username is "febtiger" without quotes)
 

cal8949

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yeah that build will probably cost $900 after every thing else but it will get you a decent gaming pc just check over the parts list because i went over it quickly
 

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WHY ARE YOU SUGGESTING A PHENOM?!

*ahem*

Seriously though, get a Wolfdale processor. The E7200 is around $130 and will kick the ass of just about any Phenom in games at stock speed. Also considering it's a Wolfdale, you can OC the hell out of it, probably get it to 3.0 GHz easy with a stock cooler. Of course that means you need a 775 board too, but there are good ones for about the same price as you'd pay for an AM2 board.
 
No reason to buy a potentially POS Rosewill PSU when an Antec Earthwatts is $30 (430W) or $60 (500W) right now.
It may be a great card, but with an $800 budget, a 4850 may be out of reach. Depending on the games, start with a 3850 and plan on that being the first upgrade when more cash is available.
 

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You can't really go bellow $550 for a gaming rig. However since your friend only has $800 this is what I suggest for that price.

Go with Intel 7200 2.53 GHz C2D is more then enough plus you don't have to buy cooling or an overclocking motherboard cause it won't bottleneck your vid card.
Core 2 Duo e7200 2.53 GHz
$129.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115052

If you must overclock then You can't beat the Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L in a $550 rig
GA-P35-DS3L
$109.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128059

9600 GT $60 cheaper then what was suggested still will run everything out.
MSI 9600 GT 512 MB GDDR3
$139.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127362

For a $550 rig your not going to have much room to overclock (especially without a good cooler) Hope your looking at Windows XP cause 2 GB is about all you can afford.
Wintech APX 2x1GB PC26400 (800 MHz)
$39.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820161229

Don't have much cash left over and a 380watt is more then enough for your rig so this combo case & powersupply should work well.
Antec NSK4480B
$89.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129032&Tpk=Antec%2bNSK4480B

For gaming alone 160 GB is more then enough space. I actually use a 160 GB for my gaming rig partitioned into 2 80 GB partitions. You will run outta space real quick if you put a bunch of DVD length movies on there but otherwise 160 is good. On top of that if you are using up a bunch of space then u need to get a bigger secondary drive anyways, it will make your primary last longer.
Western Digital SE WD1600AAJS Caviar
$43.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136075

Already over budget so really all you need now is an optical drive. I don't have a problem with light on, and Sata drives are the way to go
Lite-ON DVD+-RW
23.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106263

Total So far $583.93

Add Trendnet Wireless card (Inexpensive but decent brand)
17.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833156141

The speakers mentioned above are fine
22.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16836121014

The above Monitor is fine as well
Acer X193W+BD Black 19” 159.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009127

Keyboard & Mouse
Microsoft Keyboard $ mouse 25.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823109139

Now adding those items took the price to
810.89 before shipping.

The Above rig has a better video card and has better memory, my suggestions have the better processor (For gaming), is the total system and is closer to your price. GL
 

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+1 /Sign
 

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well the e7200 processor is a good one for gaming. but i think phenom is more future proof because tomorrows games are going to support quad core processors

the phenom 9600 runs right next to the q6600 and it is only $170, you'll at least get a very minor overclock with the phenom but not like the c2d processors

i would just go for the phenom

i would also try to get a 4850 its a stretch but it will kick a** in games with that 19 inch monitor

but i would go for tims system if you cant afford the phenom system
 

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By the time that is true, it'll be time to upgrade again. Not to mention that for gaming the GPU is always the more deciding factor in how well you can play. Lastly, even if game supported Quad Core today, the Phenom would still lose to the Core 2 Duos, especially after a nice overclock.
 

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if you get a cheaper case (Rosewill R230-P-BK Black 0.5mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $25.99) it would free up some money for a 4850. it is nice to have a good case tho
 

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i would say its a tie between the phenom system and the intel e7200

the intel e7200 won but that was against a slower phenom, slower video cards, and slower ram. and it didn't win by much

i guess its really just down to price and preference. i think the phenom will be better for the games that will use quad core processors, like crysis warhead, but who knows
 

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well first things first. I build computers for a living and i have a few suggestions. First, GO WITH INTEL! An AMD Phenom OC'd cannot compare with a C2D stock. Second, i would strongly encourage getting a 4870 instead of 4850 since the 4850 will cause great heat around 80C where as the 4870 has a large fan to support that heat.
email sleek_customs@yahoo.com
 

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$54 - oem e2160
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?p=E2160&c=fr&pid=1da62557a18b86b87d1cc7e2bea75aed71e8d05815165937e57aced625c33672
$15 - Xigmetk* 92mm tower cooler (rebate price just the other day - OC to 3.0ghz+)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233001
OR
$19 - AC freezer pro 7 ($10 less the new egg!)
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=FAN-AC7PRO
$80-90 - P35 motherboard
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=MB-P35DS3L
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=MB-EP35S3L
$25 - 2gb DDR2-800
$150 - Radeon 4850 (promo code/rebate - slickdeals.net)
http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=0&t=857017
$189 - 22" Acer (Office Depot, $80 rebate..ouch OR $219 shipped at newegg)
$50 - Corsair 450vx 5-yr warranty (rebate/google checkout - buy.com)
http://www.buy.com/prod/corsair-vx-450w-power-supply/q/loc/101/205466485.html
$25 - DVD-RW sata
$30+ - case with 120mm intake/exhaust fans (it's getting harder to find a decent cheap case, this Roswill used to be like $39.99):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147038
$30 - basic keyboard and mouse

Prices above include rebate and free shipping on some over the past week, but prices change constantly. Take the time to buy parts on sale over a few weeks and you'll get the best for your money. And remember, Newegg is not the only place to buy from, ewiz and buy.com are also great. I'm sure you know where to find a copy of XP.

@SleekNS, take your troll ass somewhere else and Cal, don't recommend AMD crap that gets stomped by an overclocked $60 Intel CPU, this guy is on a budget.
 

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do you have any proof that a e2160 can beat a phenom 9600.
wow if you want to go that cheap we can just get a AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ Processor for $40 that stomps on a e2160. not every one oc there stuff to the limit

why don't you suggest a build that will at least last him a month or maybe even 2 years of gaming

at least suggest the e7200
 

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i think tim's build is the best i would just try to get a 4850, and its only like a $10 difference to move up from 160 gig hard drive to a 250

vista 32bit will also run fine of 2 gigs of ram
at least for now
 

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The E7200 system should last him for a while, or you can wait for about a month, CPU prices should start dropping as new cpus are going to be introduced.