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Trying to help a friend with a $2k build

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May 22, 2008 7:53:18 PM

Soo, this needs to be able to play assassins creed on high and you know .... all that eyecandy niceness ^^

so here's the stuff we've selected so far:

LIAN LI ARMORSUIT PC-P60: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112160

Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS 500GB: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MSI NX8800GT 512M OC GeForce 8800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GIGABYTE GA-EX38T-DQ6 LGA 775 Intel X38 ATX: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

XCLIO DIAMONDPOWER 880W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


So, if anyone could fix anything that may be wrong ... that would be really damn halpful ^^

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May 22, 2008 8:09:16 PM

I think you picked good... but are you sure you want to go ddr3?
May 22, 2008 8:15:20 PM

Mobo and PSU are overkill. MAybe a better cooler.
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May 22, 2008 8:25:24 PM

+1 PCP&C 750
+1 S1283
+1 quality (OCZ, Corsair, Adata, Crucial, Kingston) DDR2 800 (since you have a 1066FSB processor)

I'd go for a Gigabyte P35-DS4 instead of any DQ6 (especially the CrossFire-only X38/48)
I'd also change the 5000AAKS to a 6400AAKS less $/GB (currently the lowest on Newegg) and much higher performance.
I'd opt for a 8800GTS 512 instead of the 8800GT for the money you saved by not getting DDR3/DQ6.

Edit: I love Lian Li, but the case is a little overkill aswell. Go for an Antec 900, 300 or P182 to save a little money (or even the awesome cooling of an Antec Twelve Hundred, you'll be the envy of every uber-geek in the neighborhood, myself included).
a b B Homebuilt system
May 22, 2008 8:31:31 PM

^Agreed on the DS4 option. Also add to the list X38-DS4.

@OP:

If you are planing on getting RAM natively higher than DDR2 800 be aware that there will be compatibility issues. Many users reports and my personal testing has shown that there is a very good chance you will run in to issues with RAM higher than DDR2 800, such as DDR2 1066. I recommend you get quality DDR2 800 RAM and run them at 1:1 ratio or overclock the RAM. This issue dose not apply to DDR2 800 RAM that has been overclocked.


This mainly apply to P35 based boards. Do make sure that if going for DDR2 1066 RAM that they are compatible with your motherboard choice.
May 22, 2008 8:55:43 PM

Shadow703793 said:
Swap the motherboard for this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Swap PSU to PP&C 750. It is a better $ for performance and Tire 1 with long standing good performance history.

If going with the DDR2 board above, go with quality DDR2 800.

Swap the HSF for Xigmatek HDT-S1283.
http://www.frostytech.com/top5heatsinks.cfm#INTELHEATSI...

Up the 8800GT to a 8800GTX.

Everything else looks good. I assume you are OCing?

Agreed 100% on everything
May 22, 2008 9:28:40 PM

Why are you suggesting X38? The ONLY reasons to go for an X38:

1) You are going to use ATI and want CF.
2) You have a PCIe 8x RAID controller.
3) You need very high FSBs for higher overclocking.

1) NO
2) More than likely, NO
3) NO, because the Q6600 is 1066FSB, and can go to 3.6 (400*9) before you even begin to overclock the DDR2 800 memory, most likely, with good sticks you could run 3.8GHz+ depending on the CPU sample, any P35 board on the market will do 1700FSB (425 quad-pumped) easily
May 22, 2008 10:06:15 PM

Thanks for all the advice guys ^^ really helpful and i honestly wasnt expecting that much response but so far it's been great.

Anyway, i think i'm gonna start changing the current setup in a few minutes i knew about the ddr3 thing but it was chosen already as a kind of "i needs the most expensive newest stuffs yo!" so that info to back up what others and i have said may be helpful.


Ok, so ive changed the parts list quite a bit, here goes.

LIAN LI ARMORSUIT PC-P60: http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1681...

GIGABYTE GA-X48-DQ6 LGA 775 Intel X48: http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1681...

2x EVGA 512-P3-N841-AR GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16: http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1681...

PC Power & Cooling S75QB 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply: http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1681...

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 Yorkfield 2.5GHz LGA 775 95W Quad-Core: http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1681...

OCZ Reaper HPC Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400): http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...

2x Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB: http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...

XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler: http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1683...

and a widescreen lcd, ASUS VW222U Black 22": http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...

May 23, 2008 1:15:52 AM

X38/X48 will NOT do SLI (multiple nVidia cards).

You will need a nvidia 780i/790i chipset motherboard to enable SLI.Besides, you're getting a 1680x1050 screen which does not need any SLI setup to run well, simply put, unless you do 1920+ resolution, it's a waste of money. I believe you're still falling into the more+newer+more expensive=better trick you talked about in your latest post. If you're doing mostly gaming, I would suggest an E8400/E8500 as a less expensive chip that'll perform better than a quad for most every program out right now (besides 3D programs and video encoding).
a b B Homebuilt system
May 23, 2008 1:54:18 AM

Ok, 1st what resolution do you play at? and what games?

Also consider what I said before about the DDR2 1066 RAM.
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a b B Homebuilt system
May 23, 2008 2:09:51 AM

I play Call of Duty 4 and I think its on 640x480, but after I get a better computer I plan on playing a lot more games, like steam games and Assasins Creed. Also yeah I chose DDR2 1066 RAM.


edit:


XFX MB-N780-ISH9 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 780i SLI Intel Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6700 Kentsfield 2.66GHz LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


LITE-ON Black SATA Blu-ray DVD-ROM Drive Model DH-4O1S-08: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also I got Vista Ultimate
May 23, 2008 3:13:03 AM

I believe everyone here will agree with me that 8800GTSG92 SLI is WAY overkill for the 1680x1050 display you have listed on the earlier post.
a b B Homebuilt system
May 23, 2008 8:32:16 PM

^Yes. I agree with you as well. A G92 8800GTS will do fine. Or if budget is not really a concern a 8800GTX.
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