Gaming computer, Wolfdale + 8800GTS, PSU help (and general advices)

Hello, my first post here, but been a reader of the forums for well over a year, my 5 year old computer is starting to get a "few" problems running some of the games I enjoy, so finally threw a new setup together. it's this so far:

CPU:
Core 2 duo E8400 3.0GHZ Wolfdale

Motherboard:
P5N-T Deluxe ATX

Ram:
4x Crucial Ballistix DDR2 800 PC2-6400

GFX:
Asus EN8800GTS/HTDP/512M Retail

HDD:
Caviar RE 400GB 16MB / 8.7ms / 7200RPM / SATA300


PSU is my big headache atm, never really been interested in PSU's, so a bit out there atm, and I'm from Denmark, which means many of the PSU's that people list on this forum is not possible for me.
could you guys come with some ideas for PSU's that are decent? or how many A I should go after for every line? 5V, 12V and such.

of course if anyone got a better idea for hardware fittings I would love to know them, although money is a bit tight, I'm a student so this machine is going to be a big hit on my wallet, but I hope it will last me a decent share of time *thinking back on my 5 year old champ*, so if there are any a little cheaper without giving me a too big performance hit it will be great, however the system as it is atm, is within my reach.

Info on use:
games I play is:
Final Fantasy IX
Eve-online

the last is what is killing my old system. beside that then some random every day use. the OS will be Windows XP pro. since the idea of vista gives me the creeps.
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  1. Give us a URL from a store where you can buy stuff. Even if it's in Danish, I'm sure we can figure it out and find you some good parts.

    I suggest a Q6600. It's a bit slower than the E8400 in most games right now, but it won't hurt because most games are in fact limited by the video card and won't use even a Q6600 at 100%. Long-term, a Q6600 will be much better than an E8400 because games will learn to use all 4 cores. Normally I wouldn't recomemnd this, but you look like you'll use this CPU for several years.

    Motherboard: avoid nVidia chipsets, since you're not looking for SLI. Something like GA-EP35-DS3R is more stable and cheaper. There's a DS3L too, a bit cheaper, but with fewer features and less room for upgrades.

    RAM: get 2x2GB so you can keep adding until you have 8GB. Don't fill all 4 slots with 1 GB sticks.

    Good video card, the 8800GTS 512MB. I'd prefer eVGA or BFG or XFX instead of Asus, but it's not important.

    Hard disk: the WD3200AAKS and WD6400AAKS are faster.

    PSU: one of these, for example: OCZ StealthXStream 600W, Corsair 550VX (or VX550), Corsair 650TX, PC Power & Cooling Silencer 610W, Corsair 520HX. You need something with at least 28A on a single 12V rail, or with something like 2 rails of 17A each, or more. Don't worry about amps on the 5V and so on.
  2. the pages I use for hardware shopping is:
    www.getmore.dk
    www.gate2prices.dk

    hm. I was confused if I should get the duo or Q6600, guess I get the Q then, thanks :)

    motherboard wise:
    I just heard a lot good things about that motherboard, as a cheaper motherboard I was thinking of the Asus P5N-D ATX instead, is that a decent motherboard? again it's a nVidia chipset.. so confused now, what is the bad about those chipsets?

    but if the GA-EP35-DS3R is more stable than the asus's I will go after that, thanks ^^ (just a bit of an asus fanboy, all my hardware has always been asus, but never hurt to try something new)

    ram:
    any recommended 2x2 gb blocks out there?
  3. oh and if possible. a motherboard with a coax output since my sound system (logitech Z5500 digital)
  4. btw.
    "You need something with at least 28A on a single 12V rail, or with something like 2 rails of 17A each, or more. Don't worry about amps on the 5V and so on."

    would that mean my Enemax 500W PSU (ELT500AWT) can run this system? it's pretty new. not even a year old
  5. Your 500W PSU has 2 rails of 22A each. I don't know for sure what that means when combined, it won't be 44, but I'm guessing around 40. That's way over the recommended minimum of 28. Pretty good quality too. Sure, use it, if you're only getting one video card.

    If you're getting two video cards, your current PSU is a bit too small according to nVidia's list of certified PSUs for 8800GTS SLI.
    http://www.slizone.com/object/slizone_build_psu.html
    Here's a list, taken from the HTML source of their site:
    Quote:
    <b class="header_green">For Dual GeForce 8800 GTS, GeForce 8800 GT, or Dual GeForce 7950 GX2</b><br>
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    FSP Group BoosterX 3 (FSP300-1E01) - not certified for Dual GeForce 8800 GTS




    Are you planning to buy two video cards, or just one?
  6. on the PSU is say:
    totally 32A 382W

    my setup atm is:
    CPU
    Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0GHz (Wolfdale) Box 1300

    Motherboard:
    GA-EP35-DS3R 800

    GFX
    Asus GF 8800 GTS 1600

    RAM:
    Corsair XMS2 Xtreme Performance - Hukommelse - 4 GB ( 2 x 2 GB ) - DIMM 240-pin - DDR II - 800 MHz / PC2-6400 - CL5
    700
    HDD
    WD6400AAKS 700

    PSU:
    ELT500AWT (got that)

    CASE:
    Thermaltake Matrix VX VD3000BWA 700


    and only getting 1 8800GTS, I see no reason for two with the games I play. beside. 8800GTS is a pretty decent card from what I can read.

    anything I am missing? beside that I still don't know if the motherboard got a optical or coax output for my sound system? :/
  7. The problem with nVidia-based motherboards is that when overclocking they tend to be less stable than P35 or X38 motherboards. If you want two
    video cards you don't have a choice, you need an nVidia motherboard. BTW, by "nVidia motherboard" I mean any 750i or 780i, including the Asus P5N-D
    or XFX 780i or similar MBs made by eVGA. If you only want one video card, it's cheaper to go with a P35, in general, and you get better stability too.

    So, basically, you need to decide if you want SLI (and get the P5N-D or XFX 780i or whatever with a 750i or 780i chipset), or not (and look at GA-EP35-DS3R,
    aBit IP35 Pro, Asus P5K or P5E, GA-EX38-DS4). Check them out and see which one has all the features you want. For example I have no idea which of them
    have the coax output for sound, and I got to get back to work. You check them when you have some time. I don't know how important that is. I think my
    GA-P35C-DS3R has it but I'm not using it. I just connected my Z-5500s to the X-Fi using the cable that came with the speakers.

    RAM:
    http://www.getmore.dk/templates/imw-product.asp?ProductGuid=OCZ2RPR800C44GK&GroupGuid=4010&SelectedGroup=4010
    http://www.getmore.dk/templates/imw-product.asp?ProductGuid=TWIN2X4096%2D6400C5+G&GroupGuid=4010&SelectedGroup=4010

    Edit: never mind, I didn't see your post above this one.
  8. Lunale said:
    on the PSU is say:
    totally 32A 382W

    my setup atm is:
    CPU
    Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0GHz (Wolfdale) Box 1300

    Motherboard:
    GA-EP35-DS3R 800

    GFX
    Asus GF 8800 GTS 1600

    RAM:
    Corsair XMS2 Xtreme Performance - Hukommelse - 4 GB ( 2 x 2 GB ) - DIMM 240-pin - DDR II - 800 MHz / PC2-6400 - CL5
    700
    HDD
    WD6400AAKS 700

    PSU:
    ELT500AWT (got that)

    CASE:
    Thermaltake Matrix VX VD3000BWA 700


    and only getting 1 8800GTS, I see no reason for two with the games I play. beside. 8800GTS is a pretty decent card from what I can read.

    anything I am missing? beside that I still don't know if the motherboard got a optical or coax output for my sound system? :/


    Only 32A, from two rails of 22??? That's less than I thought. It' still fine for your system, no worries.
    And the 8800GTS is a VERY decent card, as long as you're careful to get the 512MB version and not the older/slower 640MB or 320MB.
  9. I know about that, that's why I will be getting the 512MB version, 100% sure the PSU won't be a problem? it will also be running:

    3 old HDD's
    1 DVD burner
    5 fans
    ontop of the current listed, (it's my old HDD's and such, going to move data and such over to the new, than most likely only run with 2 HDD's totally)

    rather be safe than sorry
  10. Yes you get the coax and optical outputs with the GA-EP35-DS3R.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.aspx?CurImage=13-128-086-04.jpg&Image=13-128-086-03.jpg%2c13-128-086-04.jpg%2c13-128-086-05.jpg%2c13-128-086-06.jpg%2c13-128-086-07.jpg%2c13-128-086-08.jpg%2c13-128-086-02.jpg&S7ImageFlag=0&WaterMark=1&Item=N82E16813128086&Depa=0&Description=GIGABYTE+GA-EP35-DS3R+ATX+Dynamic+Energy+Saver+Ultra+Durable+II+Intel+Motherboard


    Here's a trick: go to www.newegg.com, search for the parts you want to know about. Even if they won't ship to your country (or mine), they're still a great source of info.
    I hope they don't mind me using their site like that :)
  11. All right, then get yourself a 620HX PSU for example. That should give you better efficiency and room for upgrade. It will fit in the Thermaltake Matrix VX VD3000BWA, but you need to remove a mounting bar apparently. Read this:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16811133008
  12. hm. I guess a Antec Nine Hundred - Tower - ATX case than, any trouble with space in that?
  13. No problems with that one. Good choice. Or the CoolerMaster 690, if the PC stays in the bedroom and you don't want lights.
  14. Antec Nine Hundred it is then, for PSU I take the
    OCZ StealthXStream 600w.

    max it will have to run beside cpu, gfx and all will be the 4-5 fans. 4 hdds and a dvd drive, after what I can see it should take that fine
  15. LOL, both your case and your PSU will have blue LEDs, they match. :)
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