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May 23, 2008 2:18:24 AM

Hello all!

New to the forum but have been browsing for some time to get help with building a new computer! I want to use this computer for gaming. I wanna be able to play Age of Conan and SPORE when it comes out :) 


So far this is what I have, are there any suggestions?

Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3L ATX LGA775 P35 1333FSB 1PCI-E16 3PCI-E1 3PCI SATA2 Sound GBLAN Motherboard
$103.27

Corsair XMS2 DHX TWIN2X4096-6400C4DHX 4GB DDR2 2X2GB PC2-6400 DDR2-800 CL 4-4-4-12 240PIN *IR-$25*
$119.99

Antec Nine Hundred Mid Tower Gamer Case 900 ATX 9 Drive Bay No PS Top USB2.0 1394 Audio
$106.48

Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 3.5IN 500GB SATA2 8.5MS 7200RPM 32MB Cache NCQ Hard Drive
$99.00

EVGA E-GEFORCE 8800GT 600MHZ 512MB 1.8GHZ DDR3 PCI-E Dual DVI-I HDTV Out Video Card *IR-$20*
$219.99

OCZ StealthXStream 600W ATX12V 20/24PIN Active PFC ATX Power Supply 120MM Fan Black
$79.99

Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Dual Core Processor LGA775 3.0GHZ Wolfdale 1333FSB 6MB Retail
$199.99

A couple of questions,

1. I wrestled between the 8800GT and 8800GTS for awhile, is the GTS worth an extra $50-80? I dont think Ill be "overclocking" the video card, might be a bit advanced for me.

2. Speaking of overclocking, is overclocking the CPU that difficult? Can I do a bit of it without a non-stock HS?

3. Wasnt sure about the case, but couldn't find anything else around that price with positive reviews. thoughts?



Thank you all so much for all the wonderful knowledge floating around here



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May 23, 2008 2:38:37 AM

pretty good..however, i think this would be a lil better:

Case: Antec Twelve Hundred (Antec 900 is fine also)
RAM: CORSAIR XMS2 DHX 4GB (2 x 2GB) 4-4-4-12
CPU: Q6600 G0 (OC to 3.2) <--$199 micro center
Heatsink: XIGMATEK HDT-S1283
MOBO: GIGABYTE GA-EP35-DS3L
Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer 7.1
Speakers: Logitech X-540 (or X-530)
Graphic Card: 8800GTS 512 MB (G92) <--u can get this for like $180
HD: Western Digital Raptor (if you can afford it) + 500gb Seagate
PSU: Corsair 550VX (or whatever its called)
Monitor: SAMSUNG 2253BW/SAMSUNG 2253LW
May 23, 2008 2:41:08 AM

Raptor is a waste of money.. Same goes for quad (personal opinion) Why sound card? Try on board first and if you won't like it you can upgrade it later. Your original component selection is good just go with (G92) card and you will be all set. Good luck.
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May 23, 2008 2:53:52 AM

The raptor, I agree with. Just go with a good priced SATA hard drive that fits your budget.

As for the Q6600, its no waste of money. I have two of them. I debated on going with the E8400, which Im sure I wouldve been happy with for gaming but I have gotten into other unforseen things such as folding@home and they have a program that fully utilizes all 4 cores and I outscore any dual core cpu out there.

I liked it so much I bought another to go in another case to double up on the scores.

You will be happy with either choice tbh, just go with the best priced chip between the two. If you are going to be stuck with this build for a long time then go with the Q6600. I feel things will be better utilizing the multi core architecture and you will see better performance from the Q6600 if that happens.
May 23, 2008 3:07:31 AM

I would definately go for the Q6600.

As for the sound card I would stay away from creative. I ordered their top of the line fatality xfi and it made random crackles and pops in vista. They have nice cards crappy drivers. Check out their forums if you don't believe me. I would recommend ASUS Xonar DX 7.1 Channels PCI Express Interface Sound Card if you want to get one. It does require a floppy power cable to give it power though. I

Im just glad you stayed away from nvidia based nighmare motherboards. Lets just say I am out ALOT of money because of the crap boards they sell.
May 23, 2008 3:12:06 AM

Your build looks pretty good. I'd go with the GTS though for that extra performance. Don't worry about overclocking until you think you need, and I'm positive you won't need to for quite a while.
May 23, 2008 3:12:47 AM

There are no girls on the internets.
May 23, 2008 1:24:08 PM

Thanks for the replies guys

I still dont know what to pick between E8400 vs Q6600

If i get the Q6600 is it easy to overclock to 3.6ish ? Would I need a better CPU fan?


Also, do i install XP or vista for gaming purposes?
May 23, 2008 2:34:59 PM

The GT is a better card for the money, even though I like my gts, you might only need a good 550 watt supply and it might save you some money over the ocz 650, even a good 500 watt if you only are gonna use 1 video card ;) 

I think you did a great job picking though.
May 23, 2008 4:25:42 PM

OCZ StealthXStream OCZ600SXS 600W $75 ($50 after $25 rebate) is an excellent value right now.
Antec 900 is a great case but you could save $$ without losing any peformance CM 590 $65 NZXT Alpha $50 RaidMax Smilodon $60

XP vs Vista for gaming - no significant difference in peformance these days. XP SP3 vs Vista SP1

You can overclock both the CPUs on the stock HSF - a bit. Let the core temps guide you on how high you can go (15%? 20%?).
Overclocking the Q6600 to 3.6Ghz is possible with a good aftermarket CPU HSF but the performance difference between 3.6Ghz & 3.2Ghz is very small (or none at all) depending on your game with high quality graphics settings & AA/AF on. In fact most games will be GPU bound and that usually levels the performance between CPUs, overclocked or not. Some examples: Unreal Tournament III Crysis Lost Planet
Either CPU would be a great choice for gaming. If you're interested in overclocking but not spending more you could get E7200 2.53Ghz Wolfdale CPU $132 and XIGMATEK HDT-SD964 CPU cooler $32 and easily OC the CPU past E8500 ($278) stock performance.

Upgrading to the 8800GTS (with a bit of an overclock) should give you a better performance boost than a max overclock on the CPU.





May 23, 2008 4:56:20 PM

search on newegg for an MSI 8800 GTS 512.

i had the same debate in my head about what video card to get, and when i saw the price and the reviews, i was sold on it.

$180($30 rebate) for dual slot cooling, and a 10ish% performance increase was a no brainer for me. i got 2 of em commin today or tomorrow.

also there is a 750w PC power & cooling powersupply out for $120 after rebate. its excellent quality and enough power for possible future upgrades, if u ever wanna get dual GTX or below.

antec 900 is also a great case, but in my opinion it looks horrible... i went with a $85 cooler master RC-690. looks great, lots of room for fans (2 top 1 rear 1 bottom 1 front and 2 side)
May 23, 2008 5:55:58 PM

Thanks everyone so much for all your help, i cant wait to put this thing together.

So i decided to go 8800GTS and I also bumped down the case to a:
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=20935

last and final question!
any suggestions for a 20-22" gaming LCD monitor?
May 23, 2008 6:33:13 PM

Of the monitors available @ NCIX these 3 caught my eye LG L226WTY Samsung 2220WM Samsung 2253
The LG looks especially good at the NCIX price. I'd rank the monitors LG L226, Samsung 2253 and then Samsung 2220
And the COOLER MASTER Elite 330 is good case for the price - see the link for good views of the case.

Be sure to let us know how the build goes.

May 23, 2008 6:58:54 PM

just be sure to do alot of research on the monitor. whats good for one person isnt always good for another.

atleast back when i bought my 22" options where very limited because of companies selling the same monitor w/ 4 or 5 different panels... (samsung did this just under 3-4 months ago, ive stopped reading after i bought my viewsonic)

not to mention design and functionality (alot of 22" monitors arnt as movable as CRT's. what i mean is u cant really pivot them up down left right to find the perfect angle u want to watch it from. this depends on the monitor tho, some are simply better than others.) i have pieces of cardboard propping my LCD up on one end because my desk isnt entirely level.... and the monitor cant adjust for that.

i suggest reading lots of reviews, and always going with the one w/ the best reviews based on people doing what you want to do.

also make sure u have a good warranty. troubled monitors seem to die within a few months and sometimes in a year. If you can, buy from a local store, and get a warranty from them. if you buy online, u'll have to send it (and pay shipping) back and forth. shipping on a monitor can be alot
May 23, 2008 9:00:50 PM

Quote:

Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3L ATX LGA775 P35 1333FSB 1PCI-E16 3PCI-E1 3PCI SATA2 Sound GBLAN Motherboard
$103.27

Corsair XMS2 DHX TWIN2X4096-6400C4DHX 4GB DDR2 2X2GB PC2-6400 DDR2-800 CL 4-4-4-12 240PIN *IR-$25*
$119.99

Antec Nine Hundred Mid Tower Gamer Case 900 ATX 9 Drive Bay No PS Top USB2.0 1394 Audio
$106.48

Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 3.5IN 500GB SATA2 8.5MS 7200RPM 32MB Cache NCQ Hard Drive
$99.00

EVGA E-GEFORCE 8800GT 600MHZ 512MB 1.8GHZ DDR3 PCI-E Dual DVI-I HDTV Out Video Card *IR-$20*
$219.99

OCZ StealthXStream 600W ATX12V 20/24PIN Active PFC ATX Power Supply 120MM Fan Black
$79.99

Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Dual Core Processor LGA775 3.0GHZ Wolfdale 1333FSB 6MB Retail
$199.99

Looks good :) .

Imo, you might want to swap the PSU to a Corsair 550VX, it is a little more reliable than the OCZ and has a little better rail stability.
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=25984&vpn=CM...

I am assuming you are Canadian since you are using NCIX. Hence the link to NCIX and overpaying on the DS3L.

Also if interested in OCing: GUIDE: Overclocking On P35-DS3L

PM me or post it in the OCing guide thread if you need help in OCing .
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