Nehalem

[mrplow99]

Is there any ruff time this cpu will come out, will it be before September?

Reason being wondering if its worth waiting it out for price drops on other cpus, before new pc build sometime in august, advice welcome.

All help welcome.

Plow

 

[The_Blood_Raven]

No, we are looking at Q3 08 to Q1/Q2 09.

 

[dragonsprayer]

nope - nov

or later - they will be expensive and hard too get most likely

maybe jan

 

[randomizer]

Price drops at release, if they affect anything, will only affect the current high end chips. However, I'd be surprised if they changed at all, since the top-end chips rarely drop in price. You can still buy PD EE chips for $1500 here.

 

[4745454b]

I'm also hearing rumors that the desktop versions won't have an IMC. I only heard that once or twice, so I'm not sure how true that is. The rumor claims that the Q3 or Q4 for 08 will be IMC server chips only. (I think they require server memory, or even those horrible FB-Dimms) Desktop versions will hit in Q1 09, and will lack the IMC. Desktop versions with the IMC aren't supposed to hit until the second half of 09. I have no clue how true this rumor is.

Seeing as we are spreading/asking for rumors, the other one I heard is that Intel is currently having issues with yields. Rumor says the price for these chips will stay high, for quite some time unless yields go up.

 

[cjl]

Everything I've heard has a few desktop chips, complete with IMC, coming out in Q4 for $600-$1200, and all require DDR3.

 

[pausert20]

I agree, with cjl. The HEDT boards will use the Tylersburg chipset and that will only work with the Bloomfield processors which use the 1366 pin socket.

The processor and chipset will launch in Q4 for the Server, Workstation and HEDT market.

 

[dokk2]

I would not be holding my breath waiting,if the rumors are true,and,maybe there is some substance as intel it not making much noise at the moment,and also the $$$ that intel is going to want,well,,,,anyhow there are lots of good choices for the time being,and lets face it,, the software needs to catch up to the hardware anyhow,,non??.

 

[cjl]

I agree, with cjl. The HEDT boards will use the Tylersburg chipset and that will only work with the Bloomfield processors which use the 1366 pin socket.

The processor and chipset will launch in Q4 for the Server, Workstation and HEDT market.

Yep, specifically a 3.2GHz Bloomfield Extreme Edition (or whatever the hell they decide to call it) with 6.4GT/s QP and triple channel DDR3, and a 2.93 and 2.66GHz non-extreme with a 4.8GT/s QP. At least this is what I've heard is coming in Q4. All on LGA1366. We'll have to see how accurate it is.

(Anyone taking bets on how much Intel will want for the 3.2GHz model?)

 

[mrplow99]

Thanks for help guys, ill just buy as soon as i get the money then, no point in waiting for that, especially if it needs ddr3.

 

[antonmadcow]

$600 for a Nehalem, even with DDR3, is making me drool. I can't wait for Q4 as I'm buying myself one killer Christmas present!

 

[shadowthor]

I wonder how overclocking these cpus going to be like.

 

[speedbird]

Extreme Edition CPU's are not worth the money

 

[mrplow99]

ill second that

 

[antonmadcow]

Shadowthor, Nehalem is going to be a huge leap forward in performance and already you're thinking OC? You have OC fever, dude.

 

[dragonsprayer]

look for EE chips in nov-jan at 1000-1500
look for drop and mainstream in jan-march

if intel unleashed nehalem in mass amd will fold like a lawn chair in hurricane

 

[Just_An_Engineer]

look for EE chips in nov-jan at 1000-1500
look for drop and mainstream in jan-march

if intel unleashed nehalem in mass amd will fold like a lawn chair in hurricane

Not sure I agree with the statement about AMD folding if Intel releases several Nehalem models at once. It would just create a situation where Intel's processors are faster than AMD's but much more expensive. That's pretty much the same situation we've had for the past year so I don't really see it affecting AMD's market presence.

Now, if Intel could come out with a Nehalem model that cost less than $200 and motherboards for it that cost less than $150 then I might agree with you, but I for one doubt that we will see either of those things happen for quite some time.

 

[jj463rd]

look for EE chips in nov-jan at 1000-1500
look for drop and mainstream in jan-march

if intel unleashed nehalem in mass amd will fold like a lawn chair in hurricane

I doubt it considering that AMD will be coming out with a 2 socket motherboard dual Deneb system platform in early 2009.It also will be a substantially less expensive than a Intel Skulltrail system too.

 

[shadowthor]

yea, can't wait to overclock one of the nehalem chips

 

[aux]

this nehalem is awesome, the same freq with Q9450 but faster. i ought to have one of those.

 

[mrplow99]

The fact is who has the money to buy one, a new system with ddr3 and a new mobo will be pricey, very pricey.

 

[antonmadcow]

jj463rd, it took AMD almost a year to solve the TLB with a B3, now they have CnQ screwing up the Phenoms and you think that they can pull off a dual socket Deneb? Sure, something may be out in 2009, but can that bunch of incompetents actually make it work?

 

[Just_An_Engineer]

it took AMD almost a year to solve the TLB with a B3

So by your math less than 5 months is "almost a year" ?

 

[epsilon84]

I doubt it considering that AMD will be coming out with a 2 socket motherboard dual Deneb system platform in early 2009.It also will be a substantially less expensive than a Intel Skulltrail system too.

I guess AMD hasn't learnt their QuadFX lesson....

 

[antonmadcow]

So by your math less than 5 months is "almost a year" ?

Only if you're naive enough to think that AMD put the CPUs on the market and then discovered, oops... we made a booboo. If they didn't know about it before launch then that just proves that they're as incompetent as I believe and if they did know about it before launch then that proves that they're a bunch of scam artists.

Can you tell that I'm a real AMD fan?