hi,
this is my first real build. I have been searching the net for a month and assembled this configuration, yet i have some questions/considerations before actually buying it.
I will probably not overclock unless it becomes really necessary, same with SLI/Crossfire. I use my pc for databases and in the first place gaming, I like to play new games at a regular base meaning I upgrade once a year and want to be able to play every single game out there.
-Motherboard: MSI X48C Platinum (DDR2 and DDR3, I will use DDR2 800 for 1or 2 years then switch to DDR3, also has an FSB of 1600 for future upgrades) I have no questions here, I'm pretty sure I will buy this motherboard and no other.
-Processor: Intel Q9450 (quad cores are the future, even though at this moment I'll be better off with the E8500, I want to think ahead, games will be made for quad core soon) questions: will I have problems with the cooling? I read some quad cores run too hot for the stock cooler.
-Memory: 4GB DDR2 800Mhz CL4. I came across either corsair, CSZ Reaper, Kingston Hyper X or Patriot extreme, all 2x2GB CL4 kits. Questions: What is it about the voltages? I have seen 800Mhz kits of 1.8 and 2.1 V? Which ones should I look for? I will probably never overclock memory. And secondly: I have XP Pro now, will I really need to buy vista 64 bit? If I install 4GB RAM on XP, will it still use dual channel? This is really important as this motherboard only has 2 slots for DDR2. so my options are either 2x1GB full dual channel, 1x2GB + 1x512 and apparently no dual channel or 2x2 GB wich is what I really want but 32 bit OS dont support over 3GB. So if i do this anyway, how will it work? Will I have 3GB trough dual channel or what? Help would be welcome on this as this is my biggest question of all.
-Hard Drives: 2 X Samsung spinpoint 320GB 16MB + my old IDE 80GB drive for extra backup (I will not use RAID unless i have money left for an extra HD, then I would use RAID0 for games and have one HD for backup, we have lots of pictures of our baby and I cannot afford to lose them in RAID O)
-GPU: Geforce GX2 (non debateble, I will buy this card.) Questions: There are many different providers if this card, some are clocked higher then others, some supply games etc. I let my eye fall on the XFX Black edition wich is clocked at 700Mhz. What are the downsides of these things? what do you think is the best buy for your money?
-Case: So far any case with a window. I let my eye fall on the Antec Nine Hundred. Questions: What should I take in consideration when choosing a case with this build? I also have a Zalman multi fan speed controller on my present pc (ZM-MFC1) and like to put it in this new build.
-PSU: Minimum 850W. (OCZ gamextream/ Chieftec CFT-1000 G-DF/ Gygabite Odin Pro etc) Questions: This is my second important question, with this build what is the minimum PSU i will need? I figured 850W will suffice but will it??? Any recommendations on a good enough PSU would be appreciated. bear in mind that this build is price/quality related.
-Other questions:
1) OS: I am thinking on getting vista 64 bit simply for the 4GB RAM support. will i have problems with this? I read different reports according to driver support, games etc. for my usage being mainly new games what are the pro's/cons for this? Or should I just sick with XP Pro for the time being? It would save me 200€... Would I be able to play everything I want with just 2GB of RAM? If so then i can wait untill i upgrade to DDR3 in 1 or 2 years and then upgrade to Vista 64. Nevertheless I only build a new pc once in 4-5 years so if its worth it I would go for the whole thing right now and get Vista 64 now IF its worth it for my usage.
2) PSU: for the Geforce 9800 GX2 I need additional connectors, what PSU should I take that supplies these?
3) Audio: this motherboard has an integrated 7,1 ALC888 audio chip, Yet an X-FI card doesnt cost the world and I am willing to pay for that IF it will increase performance. I use a 5.1 sound system now and have no intentions to buy a 7.1 speaker system. So the only reason to buy an extra soundcard would be performance (better gameplay because the CPU doesn't need to look for the sound) Should I look for a sound card or do you think the onboard chip will suffice without a loss in performance?
For the rest i would appreciate any advice you people have to offer. tom's Hardware is actually the ONLY site I trust completely and I'm talking of at least 8 years monitoring hardware sites. There are plenty of other hardware sites but I feel the community here resembles most with my own ideas. so help me if you can, just bear in mind i am not a freak, i will probably not overclock and just want to be able to get high performance, NOT the highest as this is either unaffordeble or unreliable(overclocking beyond what makes sence). I can get this entire build for less then 1400€ So don't advice me with a build that goes double that amount.
thank you in advance!
Tom
this is my first real build. I have been searching the net for a month and assembled this configuration, yet i have some questions/considerations before actually buying it.
I will probably not overclock unless it becomes really necessary, same with SLI/Crossfire. I use my pc for databases and in the first place gaming, I like to play new games at a regular base meaning I upgrade once a year and want to be able to play every single game out there.
-Motherboard: MSI X48C Platinum (DDR2 and DDR3, I will use DDR2 800 for 1or 2 years then switch to DDR3, also has an FSB of 1600 for future upgrades) I have no questions here, I'm pretty sure I will buy this motherboard and no other.
-Processor: Intel Q9450 (quad cores are the future, even though at this moment I'll be better off with the E8500, I want to think ahead, games will be made for quad core soon) questions: will I have problems with the cooling? I read some quad cores run too hot for the stock cooler.
-Memory: 4GB DDR2 800Mhz CL4. I came across either corsair, CSZ Reaper, Kingston Hyper X or Patriot extreme, all 2x2GB CL4 kits. Questions: What is it about the voltages? I have seen 800Mhz kits of 1.8 and 2.1 V? Which ones should I look for? I will probably never overclock memory. And secondly: I have XP Pro now, will I really need to buy vista 64 bit? If I install 4GB RAM on XP, will it still use dual channel? This is really important as this motherboard only has 2 slots for DDR2. so my options are either 2x1GB full dual channel, 1x2GB + 1x512 and apparently no dual channel or 2x2 GB wich is what I really want but 32 bit OS dont support over 3GB. So if i do this anyway, how will it work? Will I have 3GB trough dual channel or what? Help would be welcome on this as this is my biggest question of all.
-Hard Drives: 2 X Samsung spinpoint 320GB 16MB + my old IDE 80GB drive for extra backup (I will not use RAID unless i have money left for an extra HD, then I would use RAID0 for games and have one HD for backup, we have lots of pictures of our baby and I cannot afford to lose them in RAID O)
-GPU: Geforce GX2 (non debateble, I will buy this card.) Questions: There are many different providers if this card, some are clocked higher then others, some supply games etc. I let my eye fall on the XFX Black edition wich is clocked at 700Mhz. What are the downsides of these things? what do you think is the best buy for your money?
-Case: So far any case with a window. I let my eye fall on the Antec Nine Hundred. Questions: What should I take in consideration when choosing a case with this build? I also have a Zalman multi fan speed controller on my present pc (ZM-MFC1) and like to put it in this new build.
-PSU: Minimum 850W. (OCZ gamextream/ Chieftec CFT-1000 G-DF/ Gygabite Odin Pro etc) Questions: This is my second important question, with this build what is the minimum PSU i will need? I figured 850W will suffice but will it??? Any recommendations on a good enough PSU would be appreciated. bear in mind that this build is price/quality related.
-Other questions:
1) OS: I am thinking on getting vista 64 bit simply for the 4GB RAM support. will i have problems with this? I read different reports according to driver support, games etc. for my usage being mainly new games what are the pro's/cons for this? Or should I just sick with XP Pro for the time being? It would save me 200€... Would I be able to play everything I want with just 2GB of RAM? If so then i can wait untill i upgrade to DDR3 in 1 or 2 years and then upgrade to Vista 64. Nevertheless I only build a new pc once in 4-5 years so if its worth it I would go for the whole thing right now and get Vista 64 now IF its worth it for my usage.
2) PSU: for the Geforce 9800 GX2 I need additional connectors, what PSU should I take that supplies these?
3) Audio: this motherboard has an integrated 7,1 ALC888 audio chip, Yet an X-FI card doesnt cost the world and I am willing to pay for that IF it will increase performance. I use a 5.1 sound system now and have no intentions to buy a 7.1 speaker system. So the only reason to buy an extra soundcard would be performance (better gameplay because the CPU doesn't need to look for the sound) Should I look for a sound card or do you think the onboard chip will suffice without a loss in performance?
For the rest i would appreciate any advice you people have to offer. tom's Hardware is actually the ONLY site I trust completely and I'm talking of at least 8 years monitoring hardware sites. There are plenty of other hardware sites but I feel the community here resembles most with my own ideas. so help me if you can, just bear in mind i am not a freak, i will probably not overclock and just want to be able to get high performance, NOT the highest as this is either unaffordeble or unreliable(overclocking beyond what makes sence). I can get this entire build for less then 1400€ So don't advice me with a build that goes double that amount.
thank you in advance!
Tom