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As I write this, I am watching Cowboys vs. Texans onTV. Because it is NFC
vs. AFC, it is on our local Fox station and the CBS station. Both in (ugh!)
SD. But I can compare lousy pictures.
The difference is dramatic. The CBS version is so bad that on our 60" HDTV,
in the long shots you can barely tell which team is which. The FOX picture,
still awful, is much brighter & sharper. In the close-ups, almost tolerable.
Best demo of the big difference in SD quality due to different sources I
have seen.
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The same game is on 2 different stations in the same market??
A) How's that make any sense?
B) Were these local affiliate productions (KTBC / KEYE)?
"Mack McKinnon" <McKinnonRemoveThis@tvadmanDeleteThisAsWell.com> wrote in
message newsv7Qe.199848$0f.108455@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> As I write this, I am watching Cowboys vs. Texans onTV. Because it is NFC
> vs. AFC, it is on our local Fox station and the CBS station. Both in
> (ugh!) SD. But I can compare lousy pictures.
>
> The difference is dramatic. The CBS version is so bad that on our 60"
> HDTV, in the long shots you can barely tell which team is which. The FOX
> picture, still awful, is much brighter & sharper. In the close-ups, almost
> tolerable.
>
> Best demo of the big difference in SD quality due to different sources I
> have seen.
>
> mark
> austin
>
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Yes. Same game, separate productions, broadcast at the same time on the Fox
& CBS Austin affiliates. Not Fox or CBS productions, but I did not catch who
the producers were.
On the CBS affiliate, the SD image was darker, murkier & particularly bad
in the long shots. The game on KTBC/Fox was brighter and the resolution was
a little better.
But I have no interest anymore in watching football in SD, unless I have a
special interest in the teams. The primary football shot is 22 men, which
looks like about 3 pixels per man in SD on a 60-inch screen.
mack
austin
"hopdevil" <hopdevil30@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eQaQe.1045$k32.329@trnddc08...
> The same game is on 2 different stations in the same market??
>
> A) How's that make any sense?
> B) Were these local affiliate productions (KTBC / KEYE)?
>
>
> "Mack McKinnon" <McKinnonRemoveThis@tvadmanDeleteThisAsWell.com> wrote in
> message newsv7Qe.199848$0f.108455@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>> As I write this, I am watching Cowboys vs. Texans onTV. Because it is
>> NFC vs. AFC, it is on our local Fox station and the CBS station. Both in
>> (ugh!) SD. But I can compare lousy pictures.
>>
>> The difference is dramatic. The CBS version is so bad that on our 60"
>> HDTV, in the long shots you can barely tell which team is which. The FOX
>> picture, still awful, is much brighter & sharper. In the close-ups,
>> almost tolerable.
>>
>> Best demo of the big difference in SD quality due to different sources I
>> have seen.
>>
>> mark
>> austin
>>
>
>
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The Bucs may not be very good anymore, but their pre-season telecasts are!
HD all the way.
Go Bucs
Jim
"Mack McKinnon" <McKinnonRemoveThis@tvadmanDeleteThisAsWell.com> wrote in
message news:ydkQe.2175$Nx.1067@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> Yes. Same game, separate productions, broadcast at the same time on the
> Fox & CBS Austin affiliates. Not Fox or CBS productions, but I did not
> catch who the producers were.
>
> On the CBS affiliate, the SD image was darker, murkier & particularly bad
> in the long shots. The game on KTBC/Fox was brighter and the resolution
> was a little better.
>
> But I have no interest anymore in watching football in SD, unless I have a
> special interest in the teams. The primary football shot is 22 men, which
> looks like about 3 pixels per man in SD on a 60-inch screen.
>
> mack
> austin
>
>
> "hopdevil" <hopdevil30@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eQaQe.1045$k32.329@trnddc08...
>> The same game is on 2 different stations in the same market??
>>
>> A) How's that make any sense?
>> B) Were these local affiliate productions (KTBC / KEYE)?
>>
>>
>> "Mack McKinnon" <McKinnonRemoveThis@tvadmanDeleteThisAsWell.com> wrote in
>> message newsv7Qe.199848$0f.108455@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>>> As I write this, I am watching Cowboys vs. Texans onTV. Because it is
>>> NFC vs. AFC, it is on our local Fox station and the CBS station. Both
>>> in (ugh!) SD. But I can compare lousy pictures.
>>>
>>> The difference is dramatic. The CBS version is so bad that on our 60"
>>> HDTV, in the long shots you can barely tell which team is which. The FOX
>>> picture, still awful, is much brighter & sharper. In the close-ups,
>>> almost tolerable.
>>>
>>> Best demo of the big difference in SD quality due to different sources I
>>> have seen.
>>>
>>> mark
>>> austin
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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"Mack McKinnon" <McKinnonRemoveThis@tvadmanDeleteThisAsWell.com> wrote in
message news:ydkQe.2175$Nx.1067@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> Yes. Same game, separate productions, broadcast at the same time on the
> Fox & CBS Austin affiliates. Not Fox or CBS productions, but I did not
> catch who the producers were.
>
> On the CBS affiliate, the SD image was darker, murkier & particularly bad
> in the long shots. The game on KTBC/Fox was brighter and the resolution
> was a little better.
>
> But I have no interest anymore in watching football in SD, unless I have a
> special interest in the teams. The primary football shot is 22 men, which
> looks like about 3 pixels per man in SD on a 60-inch screen.
>
> mack
> austin
>
>
> "hopdevil" <hopdevil30@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eQaQe.1045$k32.329@trnddc08...
>> The same game is on 2 different stations in the same market??
>>
>> A) How's that make any sense?
>> B) Were these local affiliate productions (KTBC / KEYE)?
>>
>>
>> "Mack McKinnon" <McKinnonRemoveThis@tvadmanDeleteThisAsWell.com> wrote in
>> message newsv7Qe.199848$0f.108455@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>>> As I write this, I am watching Cowboys vs. Texans onTV. Because it is
>>> NFC vs. AFC, it is on our local Fox station and the CBS station. Both
>>> in (ugh!) SD. But I can compare lousy pictures.
>>>
>>> The difference is dramatic. The CBS version is so bad that on our 60"
>>> HDTV, in the long shots you can barely tell which team is which. The FOX
>>> picture, still awful, is much brighter & sharper. In the close-ups,
>>> almost tolerable.
>>>
>>> Best demo of the big difference in SD quality due to different sources I
>>> have seen.
>>>
>>> mark
>>> austin
>>>
>>
>>
Golf in SD on an HDTV setup is like watching an impressionist painting. Our
1948 black and white was better. So much for progress.
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"BC" <bcphoto@core.com> wrote
> Golf in SD on an HDTV setup is like watching an impressionist painting.
> Our 1948 black and white was better. So much for progress.
I have noticed that. SD football varies from "pretty bad" to "horrendous".
The Texas-Louisiana/Lafayette game the other night, broadcast here on Fox
Sports SW in SD looked much better than what I saw ABC showing yesterday
afternoon in SD. Unfortunately, as of now, the Texas-Ohio State game next
Saturday -- one of the biggest games of the season, so far -- is scheduled
to be broadcast in SD. Go figure.
It is hard for me to imagine why networks would not be doing everything
possible to broadcast at LEAST all their national and big regional football
games in HD, at this point. Especially, since you can be sure that ALL the
TV execs, ALL the top-level TV producers, ALL the decision-makers at the
sponsor companies and ALL the high-dollar ad clients for the Lexus and
Hummer spots -- ALL of them, for all practical purposes, own HDTV sets by
now.
I don't watch golf on TV but when I surf across it, it looks REALLY bad.
All that nature gone to waste on a lousy picture. If I were a golf fan, I
would be pissed about it.
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