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this is 1st time build i have asus m4a79deluxe motherboard amd phenom 2 x4 black 3.0ghz Thermaltake CL-P0456 140mm CPU Cooler and 4 gig ocz pc2 8500 1066 2gig x2 and nvidia 9800 i want to build up overclocking until 4 ghz how do i do this should i use asus amd overclock software or do it through bios also what do i do i need to know all steps as i do nto want to burn up pc pleas help

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Well it is able to overclock to 4.0ghz but if you wanna replace it in a year, im @ 3.6ghz @ 1.45vcore. Use bios always. Step the multiplier up .5-1 at a time and run prime95 to test stability, i test it for like 10-15 mins if no errors it wont crash anytime soon probably and just go again. Rinse and repeat.

I'm on a 110mm V1 cooler from TT as well, i dont think you need to worry about temperatures.

If your board has ACC or Clock control enable it, you will go higher stabily.


Message edited by shiftstealth on 03-23-2009 at 01:36:13 AM
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Reply to shiftstealth

More than likely you're not going to hit 4.0GHz, at least without a good water cooling setup. At around 3.8GHz you have to pass the 1.5V barrier which is farther than most people would like to go.

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Reply to EQPlayer

EQPlayer wrote :

More than likely you're not going to hit 4.0GHz, at least without a good water cooling setup. At around 3.8GHz you have to pass the 1.5V barrier which is farther than most people would like to go.




EQPlayer How are you running 8 gigs of 1066 on m4a79 board? You can only use 1066 on one channel. I could only find 2 2gig sticks, did you find 2 4gig sticks?

Reply to Medieval517

You guys are both wrong. Majority of 940 owners are getting 3.6GHz to 3.7Ghz. Some are getting in the 3.8 range but if anyone is getting higher they are unstable. Even with a decent watercoooling setup.

------------------------------ AMD 9850 BE 2.5GHz(Overclocked to 3.2GHz)
ASUS M3A78-T
NVIDEA GTX280
THERMALTAKE TOUGHPOWER 700W
Reply to drdeathx

Medieval517 wrote :

EQPlayer How are you running 8 gigs of 1066 on m4a79 board? You can only use 1066 on one channel. I could only find 2 2gig sticks, did you find 2 4gig sticks?



No, I run 4 2Gb sticks. I set the RAM to 1066 in BIOS. I can post a CPU-Z shot if you like.

Just because AMD likes to say you can't run it at 1066, and the BIOS defaults it to 800, doesn't mean you can't go in and manually set it yourself.


Message edited by EQPlayer on 04-15-2009 at 10:55:59 AM
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Reply to EQPlayer

That much Ram is a waste. You will never utilize 1/3 of it.

------------------------------ AMD 9850 BE 2.5GHz(Overclocked to 3.2GHz)
ASUS M3A78-T
NVIDEA GTX280
THERMALTAKE TOUGHPOWER 700W
Reply to drdeathx

eh, what's 8 gigs of ram for?

4 gigs is the sweet spot, and there's a noticeable gain compared to 2 gigs in terms of what program you are using.\

Though, what program needs 8 gigs?

Reply to ChronoBodi

ChronoBodi wrote :

eh, what's 8 gigs of ram for?

4 gigs is the sweet spot, and there's a noticeable gain compared to 2 gigs in terms of what program you are using.\

Though, what program needs 8 gigs?




Extreme overclockers will use 1 X 2G sticks to overclock. Anything more is a waste. Most can get a slightly higher overclock with 1 stick but with Vista since it is a resource hog 4G will probably be better. The only thing you need 8G is if you are running applications such as cat or multi tasking in a huge way. 8G is a total waste of money. It does not help your system 1 bit over 4G which the average user will never come close to using.

------------------------------ AMD 9850 BE 2.5GHz(Overclocked to 3.2GHz)
ASUS M3A78-T
NVIDEA GTX280
THERMALTAKE TOUGHPOWER 700W
Reply to drdeathx

I use 8Gigs of ram for 1 reason..... People dont realize that Vista64 Bit is designed to use what your hardware has to offer. When I had 4gigs I would idle (after 8mins of background program checks and such) @ around 1.1 to 1.2 gigs ram. With 8gigs I will idle @ 1.5 to 1.6 gigs. Not saying 8gigs is the way to go, but Vista and the soon to arrive windows7 checks your system to see how efficient it can run on it. Its not a game thing just an OS thing. I do not and will not see a difference in 8gigs vs 4gigs as far as gamming goes.


Message edited by Immortalis on 04-26-2009 at 05:07:56 AM
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Reply to Immortalis

That's fine and dandy but most extreme overclockers will run 1 stick to get max overclock. It may not be much higher than 2 sticks but 4 sticks for overclocking even with 64 bit I believe is unnecessary.

------------------------------ AMD 9850 BE 2.5GHz(Overclocked to 3.2GHz)
ASUS M3A78-T
NVIDEA GTX280
THERMALTAKE TOUGHPOWER 700W
Reply to drdeathx

As far as gaming same thing. You have 4 sticks especially in ganged mode. Each core uses all 4 sticks causing more communication. Even with 64bit, you will never use all that memory unless multi tasking and high memory applications which games will NEVER USE ALL THAT MEMORY. It is a waste. This is why I am just short of 3.7GHz and you are only 3.5GHz. You should easily get 3.6Ghz out of a Phenom II 940.


Message edited by drdeathx on 04-26-2009 at 11:19:17 PM
------------------------------ AMD 9850 BE 2.5GHz(Overclocked to 3.2GHz)
ASUS M3A78-T
NVIDEA GTX280
THERMALTAKE TOUGHPOWER 700W
Reply to drdeathx

No. I can get 3.7gigs no prob. I just dont like to be over 51c full load. I have bounced off 3.8gig just to see what I can do. I have been trying a lot off different things. I dunno what "They" do, but I try to run as good as I can with low temps. I have been running these settings for 2 hrs prime so far. Just stopped to check emails. Temps never got over 50c. OCCT I ran for about 35min. Everest for 1hour. I dunno how to put link on this but I will try. http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=554567 BTW. With this FSB the L3 speed is crazy. That was what I was looking for and I got it.


Message edited by Immortalis on 04-27-2009 at 04:36:04 AM
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Reply to Immortalis

The memory is very much used. I have 2 monitors. I game on 1 and I use the other to check web, emails and burn music for my wife (sometimes the music) I even watch movies while I game (If i'm doing repeditive task or waiting on friends to come online). I have bounced off 5.8 and a few time with Blu-Ray 6.3 gigs. It never interupts my game. Sure the CPU is about 75-85% loaded if Blu-Ray is going with a game, but that is what a quad is for. I do everything with my rig. TV,movies,music,games and web stuff. The 8gigs is very much usefull. The only time you will ever see a difference in numbers from 800mhz to 1100mhz is in virtual benches. The human eye will never notice it. As long as ur GPU is at tops you will never see the difference unless you have 233mhz ram up against 1333mhz. then maybe, but I game side by side with my friends sometimes and 1 of them wishes he never spent the money on the I7 Intel, because he was able to see no difference at all. His ram is clocked at 1600mhz at that. Twice my speed but equal on the visual. If you want virtual benches then have fun, but a freakin cheap ass HP or Dell with the right GPU will game just fine. 3gig, 4gig, or 8gig. No one can tell the visual difference.

------------------------------ PhenomII 940 @ 3.5/ FSB @ 2500/ HT @ 2500/ GA-MA790GP-DS4H/ 2x 4850 1Gb/ 8Gb Corsair Dominator/ Thermaltake 1300 watt PSU/ Coolermaster HAF 932 Full Tower
Reply to Immortalis

I have the same board and chip and have it running stable at 3.6 GHZ. Have gone higher, but certainly not stable enough to be reliable, nothing like getting stopped in the middle of a fragging session! I have 4GB of ram at 1066 and the box is just great!, BTW no vcore change required, runs solid at 46c at load.

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drdeathx wrote :

You guys are both wrong. Majority of 940 owners are getting 3.6GHz to 3.7Ghz. Some are getting in the 3.8 range but if anyone is getting higher they are unstable. Even with a decent watercoooling setup.



You are exactly right I have a Danger den setup W/ mc tdx block and 2 BI 240GTX rads and the d 5 pump and i can get stable at 3.8 at 1.585v load temp Prime 95 46c anything after that well you know what happens

phenom 2 940
asus m4a29d watercooled
ati 4870
4g dc xms2 1066 mem
750psu single 12v rail
640 wd 32 mb cache 7200 rpm
vista ultimate 64 bit

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