First off this is the 2nd computer I will have built even though I work with computers on a daily basis (most companies just buy from dell). It will be the 1st I am building for myself and I want a nice stable gaming rig that in a few months I may add a 2nd vid card to and sli it up for conan and Warhammer and starcraft. Any feedback on how to make it better is greatly appreciated. Also note that I may attempt slight overclocking as I work with a tweaker whos updates his rig every 6 months. anyways here goes.
Case- Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
-$119.99
Antec NeoPower 650 Blue 650W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply - Retail
-$109.99 (Ive been told antec power is not stable and to buy a PSU from the teir 2 list on xtreme)
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3500630AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
-(2 of them raid 0 for) $159.98 total
ASUS 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model DRW-2014L1T - Retail
-(2 of them because i like 2 drives) $71.98 total
ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler - Retail
-$26.99
Rosewill RCR-FD200 All-in-one USB 2.0 Black 3.5" Card Reader with 1.44MB Floppy Drive - Retail
-$31.99
Total price $1,435.88 + tax and shipping
I would like any opinions other than telling me to go AMD and ATI (I prefer the evil empire)
Ive been told the 900 case and the 9800 gtx are a very tight fit so I have been looking at full atx cases. I like the looks and reviews of the full armor and cosmos but id prefer not to spend 200 on a case if i didnt have to. the main reason for the 900 was keeping the rig cool with all those fans.
Great build. The only thing i would do different is go with a Q9300. I is $60 more, but you are already spending a bunch. Besides, it is 45nm. It will run cooler, use less power, 1333FSB.
My only changes and this will put your rig similar to mine is I went with SLIed 9600GTs. They have a bit more oomph at 1900x1200 than the single 9800GT. And I went with a 800w SLI PSU I only wish I had gone Module PSU as I have a billion and a half cables hanging out and I wish the Q9300 was available when I did my setup.
I will look at the other chip. I thought the only steps up were the 6700 and then extreme 1000 dollar chips. but for 60 bucks if it will run cooler its a good idea. i like the idea of the 6600 mainly because it is old and people trust it
On the cards, i plan on getting another 9800 and sling as the price comes down. i know everyone says the new chipset will be out in a month but i wouldnt spend new chipset money and only decided on the 9800 after i was basically told it was two 8800 gt's strapped together in sli mode (is that correct?) and it is cheaper than 2 8800 gt's.
my main concerns are heat, as i am told the 780i runs hot, a good PSU, and if the 9800 will fit in the case with no issue.
nvidia mobo chipsets (7xxi's) do run warmer than the intels. That is why i went with x38 chipset. If you want to SLI you are forced to go with a nvidia board. It will be fine. They run warmer but not at dangerous levels, just have good fans.
I like the 45nm intel cpu's because they have a lot of OC room with a lot less heat. I just put in a e7200 2.5G dual core. I have it runnin at 3.8Ghz. It never exceeds 57c at load. The quad 45nm will run warmer but not as hot as the 65nm q6600.
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Several of the reviews of the 900 case on newegg mentioned they put a 9800 in there and none mentioned problems fitting it, so I think you're ok.
If you're CERTAIN you want to do SLI, then you're stuck with an nvidia chipset like the 780i, which has many more reported stability issues than the recent intel p35 or X38/X48 boards. Most will tell you SLI is mostly a waste of money, because the performance gains usually aren't impressive compared to a good single card, especially in terms of a noticable change in your gaming experience.
Antec NeoPower 650 Blue 650W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply - Retail
-$109.99 (Ive been told antec power is not stable and to buy a PSU from the teir 2 list on xtreme)
okay so im willing to drop the SLI board, and with the q93 im running cooler but what mother board should i run? the x38 that you recommended has great reviews but is out of stock. do you have a similar asus? if im not doing sli i wont need the 700 watt PSU.
I am going to make a copy of this so I can just post and repost without having to type it all the time.
A 9800GTX is simply a rebranded 8800GTS (g92) with slightly faster memory.
The 8800GTS is only about 2-5% less performance at stock speed than a 9800GTX, $100 or more cheaper depending on rebates and which one you buy, and overclocks extremely well.
When you buy a 9800GTX, you are really paying a premium simply for the newest cards out right now, for no good reason performance wise.
The only advantage you have with a 9800 is they will do triple SLI, and I am not sure why anyone would spend the money for that either.
yes but the 8800 GTS didnt have the hd capabilities that the even cheaper 8800 GT got later on. I was originally going to run 2 8800 GT's in SLI but the single 9800 seems to do well and if i need to do 2 in a few months I can.
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