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AoC rig - pls give suggestions

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May 26, 2008 9:23:00 PM

Please if you have a suggestion make it a cheaper options. haha

Thanks

disc

SAMSUNG 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model SH-S203N - OEM
Item #: N82E16827151154

case

COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Item #: N82E16811119137

hd

Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3500320AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Item #: N82E16822148288

monitor

SAMSUNG 2253LW High-gloss Black 21.6" 5ms, 2ms (GTG) Widescreen LCD Monitor - Retail
Item #: N82E16824001271

graphics

EVGA 512-P3-N841-AR GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card

psu

CORSAIR CMPSU-550VX 550W ATX12V V2.2 Power Supply - Retail
Item #: N82E16817139004

ram

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-4GBPQ - Retail

mobo

GIGABYTE GA-EP35-DS3R LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Dynamic Energy Saver Ultra Durable II Intel Motherboard - Retail

cpu

Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80570E8400 - Retail

and vista 32 bit

thanks!

May 26, 2008 9:27:52 PM

get a quad core for AoC.
May 26, 2008 9:33:31 PM

oh, nice graphics card pick, the 8800gts 512mb blows air back out the case and will keep ur graphics card realllllllllyyyy cool.
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May 26, 2008 9:34:24 PM

So quad core? I heard they were more trouble then they're worth at the moment. Especially for gaming.
May 26, 2008 9:38:51 PM

Is AoC written to take advantage of quad core CPUs? If it is it'll be the first game I've ever heard of that does.

I don't think the 8800gts 512 blows air back into the case - I think that's only an issue with some 8800GT 512MB cards, correct?
May 26, 2008 9:42:17 PM

the 8800GTS 512mb does not blow air back into the case. it blows it out of the case. that is good. the 8800GT blows it into the case, not out. the extra performance and cooling is worth the extra bucks.
May 26, 2008 9:43:05 PM

quadcore is good future proofing, and its plenty fast, i read somewhere that AoC utilizes it, i need someone to verify this for me. read the newegg reviews for q6600, its like 93% 5 stars and the rest are 4 stars. why pay 200bucks for dual core. remember, u can can overclock ur q6600 up to 3.6ghz but u cant add 2 more cores to ur e8400 when games utilize the extra cores. the e8400 overclocks to 4.0 though. both are excelent processors. u couldnt go wrong with either one.
May 26, 2008 9:50:49 PM

i cant find out, there seems to be no information on the sibject. even so a q6600 is good. running 3dmark06, more people use q6600 than e8400 on the online score browser.
May 26, 2008 9:50:49 PM

simply, u can overclock both processors. q6600 OCs reliably to 3.6ghz, e8400 to 4.0ghz. but u cannot add 2 more processor cores to the e8400. if u go quadcore, make sure to get the G0 stepping. most likely the B3 have been phased out.
May 26, 2008 9:51:29 PM

So all in all good build? I basicly just looked about like 30-40 threads on this forum and pieced together advice out of all of em to make it. Wanted to keep it close to a grand - max 1500. But really would rather closer to a grand.

So, quad vs duel... anyone else have a preference?
May 26, 2008 9:51:53 PM

ur system cant use all 4gb if u get a 32bit OS. go for 64bit if u want to use more than about 3-3.5gb or RAM.
May 26, 2008 9:56:09 PM

u could get a 2053bw for about 30bucks less and still have the same resolution, itd just be 2" smaller. i have the 2053bw, typing on it right now. its plenty big for me. everythings up to u. they both has same resolution.
May 26, 2008 10:36:42 PM

The quads will only match the Wolfdales gaming performance if you overclock them to nearly the same speed. Why? Most games can benefit from dual cores, and it's still more Mhz is good for gaming when you are talking about a processor family.
If you plan on overclocking, and you do other things besides game, heavy multitasking, video encoding, Photoshop, etc. the Quad is an excellent choice.
If you are not a big overclocker, play lots of games and surf the net, a few offices apps, Mp3's, watch a few videos, etc. A fast Wolfdale dual core will suit nicely.
May 27, 2008 1:57:01 AM

so the q6600 can do all the things a wolfdale can plus a bag of chips and more
and the the wolfdale can do things just like a q6600 without the bag of chips and more???????
May 27, 2008 1:59:40 AM

im fair sure AoC takes Quadcore advantage...from what i read "the more cores the better" they said.
May 27, 2008 2:00:53 AM

omg omg omg im a journeyman !!!!! im so happy

Thank you tom i love you so much. :S
May 27, 2008 2:04:01 AM

My suggestions probably won't make it cheaper but it'll play better.

I played the AoC beta and had an e6600 @ 2.4ghz at the time, the game barely used 60% of each core while playing. I now have an e8400 @ 3.5ghz and the framerates didn't really improve much. Even overclocking my 8800GTS 640mb doesn't increase the fps much. The e8400 is nice though, it overclocks farely well, only had to up the vcore a tiny bit to get 3.5ghz, once my new thermal paste gets here i'm gonna go even higher.

You may want to hold on off on buying the graphics card, new GPUs should be coming out soon that will play the game easily at the highest settings. Go for a bigger monitor, try something like a 24". You may also want to grab some 1066mhz ram instead of the 800mhz unless you're going to overclock the 800mhz ram up to 1066. Also, make sure your powersupply is both ATX12v v2.2 compliant as well as EPS12v. All the newer PSUs should support EPS12v and a lot of motherboards are starting to use it. Also, make sure to have a fast main drive for your OS. Get one of those new raptors and install whatever OS you decide to use on it and the 500gb for a storage drive. AoC has a lot of loading screens, so a faster drive will be good.

The game plays best on Windows XP (highest fps). It runs fine on vista but the fps isn't as high. Also at some point if not already there will be support for DX10 and 64bit in the game, so if you're going to do vista make sure you use a 64bit version.
May 27, 2008 2:16:17 AM

Khaydin - I hear you on the graphics card - I actually have a computer right now that I plan on transfer the 8800 gts to once the new ones come in, so that's covered. I'll look into the ram also.

How do I make sure its eps12v and atx12v v2.2 compliant? I looked on the screen of the PSU I had and didn't see anything about it.
May 27, 2008 2:58:02 AM

Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB
Item#:N82E16822136218

5 bucks more for 640GB
runs cooler and quicker

I have same case-it's very nice
-fans are quiet
-alot of internal bays

I got the Q6600 G0 VID1.2625
-OC 3.4 w/ 1.39v(kept is low cause I dont want Zilman cooler to be too loud). Could have OC more but might need water.

Go with XP 32bit sp3.
-i had Vista ultimate sp1
-vista boot faster but too many cons(alot of programs load slower, annoying
window pop up warning of everything you do, no vista optimizing software, etc)
May 27, 2008 3:23:33 AM

The quad core support in AoC is the same as the the other "the more cores the better" games,that is to say not that great.Your best bang is still a higher clocked dualie.
May 27, 2008 5:39:12 PM

So this is what I'm going to go for unless I need any last minute changes:

COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

GIGABYTE GA-EP35-DS3R LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Dynamic Energy Saver Ultra Durable II Intel Motherboard - Retail

EVGA 512-P3-N841-AR GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail

Antec NeoPower 650 Blue 650W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply - Retail


Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80570E8400 - Retail

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK - Retail

Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3500320AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

SAMSUNG 2253BW Black 22" 2ms(GTG) DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor - Retail

SAMSUNG 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model SH-S203N - OEM


Microsoft Windows Vista 64-Bit Home Premium for System Builders Single Pack DVD - OEM

Am I forgetting anything? (have keyboard/mouse)

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