Which processor?

[sirsaechao]

I need a home PC to replace my Dell P4. The P4 is just way to slow and full of Dell preloaded junk. I'm in the market to spend about $400 on just the PC. I found a couple in my price range. Which is better:

Pentium Dual Core E2180 2.0 or AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+??? Why??? I have some parts from my old Dell that I will put into these like a 8600 GT, SB Audigy SE. I would also like it to play WoW from time to time.

 

[mrplow99]

hmm not really sure tbh, but if you could get a core 2 duo, it would be better

 

[jonisginger]

Errr.

E2180 is C2D, so you're OK there, and its 1.8Ghz I think.

I can assume you of that.

Depends how good the PSU you're going to put in is, if its a good quality, 400w+ one, then the E2180 might be better because you could overclock it by a few hundred megahurtz.

How many Ghz is the 4000+ X2.

I'd probably recommend the E2180 though.

 

[jonisginger]

Sorry if I'm sounding like a n00b tonight, I'm very tired haha.

I do know my stuff.











Honest.

 

[sirsaechao]

E2180 is a Dual Core not quite a Core 2 Duo. PSU is 300 watts. My Dell has a 300W and it handled my 8600GT. The AMD 4000+ is a 2.0 as well. I can probably get a 4200+ or 4400+ since it is cheaper than the Intel.

 

[jonisginger]

E2180 is cheap ****!!

It is £45 here, which is like <$90

A 4000+ X2 you could only get second hand here.

Hey, look at this $80.

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Intel-Pentium-Dual-Core-E2180-2-0GHz-Processor_W0QQitemZ170236231568QQihZ007QQcategoryZ3297QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Bam.

Any help?

 

[blackwidow_rsa]

Edit: nvm

 

[jonisginger]

How is E2180 not a C2D??

 

[sirsaechao]

Just remember. I'm on a budget and this will replace my Dell 3.0 P4.

 

[jonisginger]

Right.

Well, what are you going to not replace,

i.e. take from your Dell

And what stuff are you planning on buying?

 

[sirsaechao]

I just need something in my budget and at least running 2 core. Single core computer are so slow right now.

 

[jonisginger]

You haven't answered my question.

New processor? Motherboard?

What?

I'm assuming you're buying
- processor
- motherboard

everything else from Dell?

 

[sirsaechao]

New computer in general. Only thing I'm salvaging is my 8600GT and sound card from Dell.

 

[evongugg]

GA-P35-DS3L

e2180 or better

2GB DDR2-800

Coolermaster Centurion 5

Reuse power supply (not sure, measure it), hard disk, video card, optical drive, etc.

 

[evongugg]

If you go with my setup, overclock it.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/240001-29-howto-overclock-quads-duals-guide

 

[jonisginger]

Errrrr.

Right.

I think you should go look at the cheapest prebuilt "gaming" computers on eBay, ask them to remove the graphics card, and sound card (if applicable),

And make an offer on $200 or so,

That is probably your best bet.

Something liek this.

http://cgi.ebay.com/BAREBONES-INTEL-Core-Duo-PCIe-1-GB-CPU-COMPUTER-SYSTEM_W0QQitemZ260258110403QQihZ016QQcategoryZ179QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

See?

 

[jonisginger]

It's not optimal, but upgradeable.

$200 is *&%£ing tight man...

Stretch to $250 or $300 and you'd find a MUCH better PC...

 

[evongugg]

AMD SETUP:

GA-MA78-S2H

AMD BE-2400

2GB DDR2-800

Coolermaster Centurion 5

Reuse power supply (not sure, measure it), hard disk, video card, optical drive, etc.

Doesn't need overclocking.

 

[th_username]

e2180 if you are going to overclock if not go with amd

 

[Shadow703793]

^+1. The E2180 can easily be Oced to 3Ghz+. If not in to OCing get a AMD.

 

[50bmg]

+1 e2180. because it is a known overclocker.

 

[sirsaechao]

Ok thanks.

 

[the last resort]

I am going to be an idiot and try to win him over to AMD.
Processor - AMD X2 6000+ 114 Newegg.
MB M2N SLI Deluxe 130 Newegg
Ram Corsair DDR2 800 2GB 33 Newegg w/ rebate.
Case- Cooler Master Centurion 5 55 Newegg
PS- Corsair 450 Watt. 60 Newegg w/ rebate

Total- $392, plus shipping.

Let the flames begin......

 

[dirtmountain]

Great article at Hardware secrets that deals with just this subject with benchmarks
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/577
Conclusion: Athlon+2 4600 over the E2180

 

[doomsdaydave11]

Errr.
How many Ghz is the 4000+ X2.

Ghz doesn't matter, raw performance does. Bet my 2.2Ghz Athlon 64 will trash any 3.2Ghz P4.

C2D overclocks better (dispite the fact that the AMD 5000+ BE can still be found, and is a fantastic overclocker), but AMD takes the cake for cheap, solid power.

Also, AMD's budget chipsets tend to be better then Intel's current offerings, even though P35 is pretty good.