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May 27, 2008 7:26:13 PM

Hello all. New to this, so was trying to put together a reasonably priced computer that might last me a little while. Looking to do some gaming with it (particularly Warhammer when released), but top end graphics are not a priority, I just like to play.

Looking for a variety of feedback. Is this acceptable? Are the parts compatible? (I've tried checking, but my knowledge is limited). Is there a blatant mistake I'm making in buying X-item?

More specific questions include:
Should I double up on the video cards for crossfire?
If I want to overclock, what type/level of cooling should I be considering?
Is the PSU sufficient? I tried the online calculators, but another eye is always helpful.
Is this case going to fit my needs? (Sadly, it's pretty much chosen because I thought it looked cool)

Thanks to any and all feedback!!

ASUS MAXIMUS FORMULA LGA 775 Intel X38 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131227


Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 Yorkfield 2.5GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115043

PC Power & Cooling S75QB 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply 100 - 240 V UL, ULC, CE, CB, RoHS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703009

ASUS EAH3850/G/HTDI/512M Radeon HD 3850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121219


mushkin 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146692

Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136073

APEVIA X-CRUISER-BK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811144151

edit: Changed the PSU to a tier 1. Didn't know about the list, thanks Jtt283.

May 27, 2008 7:50:33 PM

1. I like Mushkin RAM; has never given me the first taste of grief.
2. I have that exact video card, and have no complaints. Another one I installed for my niece though may have failed; she is sending it to me to check. I still like this card, and it seems in line with what you want. Consider an 8800GS though. Cleeve's monthly article, the Best Gaming Video Cards for the Money, will point out the performance leader(s) at any given price point.
3. Coolmax is a tier-5 ("Do not buy") PSU according to the list at http://www.tomswiki.com/page/Tiered+PSU+Listings?t=anon. Choose one from tier-3 or better.
4. A case is a personal preference item. Be advised that the one you've chosen comes with an 80mm fan where you could actually fit a 120mm fan. Buy a 120mm case fan, and add theirs to the front, which looks like it takes one that size. I had a different Apevia case for a while, but replaced it due to quality issues. Its fans (1x80 and 1x120) were very quiet, but did not move a lot of air.

May 27, 2008 8:20:17 PM

throwing_cp said:
Hello all. New to this, so was trying to put together a reasonably priced computer that might last me a little while. Looking to do some gaming with it (particularly Warhammer when released), but top end graphics are not a priority, I just like to play.

Looking for a variety of feedback. Is this acceptable? Are the parts compatible? (I've tried checking, but my knowledge is limited). Is there a blatant mistake I'm making in buying X-item?

More specific questions include:
Should I double up on the video cards for crossfire?
If I want to overclock, what type/level of cooling should I be considering?
Is the PSU sufficient? I tried the online calculators, but another eye is always helpful.
Is this case going to fit my needs? (Sadly, it's pretty much chosen because I thought it looked cool)

Thanks to any and all feedback!!

ASUS MAXIMUS FORMULA LGA 775 Intel X38 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131227


I have this motherboard(forget my bios rev) but it is a stable board for me but I am running a Q6600 on it and with no tweaking(since I am looking to move to a Nvidia board) I was able to go from the stock 2.4g to 3.01g with just a simple bios selection. Sees my 4 sticks of 1066 OCZ ram just fine.

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 Yorkfield 2.5GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor
[urlExt=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115043 said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115043]Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 Yorkfield 2.5GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115043
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I have been eyeballing this proc or just going with the E8400 or another Q6600 or maybe a Q6700 since the price is down and I will be assuring a G0 stepping for OC goodness.

COOLMAX CUG-700B 700W ATX 12V( V.2.2) Power Supply 115/ 230 V
[urlExt=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817159058 said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817159058]COOLMAX CUG-700B 700W ATX 12V( V.2.2) Power Supply 115/ 230 V
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817159058
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I am running a single card system on a Silverstone rated at 680w with multiple rails right now with just minor overclocking but my system is running 5 HD. Power doesn't seem to be a problem for me. Running a 8880GTS 512 by XFX. The Coolmax 700 should give you enough power. How much warranty does it offer? It cost less than I paid for my Silverstone and I am looking for another PSU for a second box.

ETA Learn something everyday...I was not aware of the tiers of PSU.

ASUS EAH3850/G/HTDI/512M Radeon HD 3850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported
[urlExt=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121219
said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121219
]ASUS EAH3850/G/HTDI/512M Radeon HD 3850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121219
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I don't know what your budget is but the 3870 are just few bucks more it seems. Also with the 4XXX looming the prices will tank on the 3XXX. I know my 88800GTS tanked $80 in 3 months since the 9XXX came out. *shrug*

mushkin 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
[urlExt=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146692 said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146692]mushkin 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146692
[/urlExt]

Seems good unless you wanted to get some lower CAS for a higher price.

Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
[urlExt=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136073 said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136073]Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136073
[/urlExt]

I have two of these http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148136
5 years vs 3 years of warranty and cheaper.

APEVIA X-CRUISER-BK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
[urlExt=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811144151 said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811144151]APEVIA X-CRUISER-BK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811144151
[/urlExt]

I don't know how hot the ATI cards get but my Nvidia card gets hot and if you plan on OC much you will want a case that breathes well if you are not water cooling. I got a CM690 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119137 for my build and my fiancee's build. Rather plain looking with no side panel bling bling viewer. Although the front mesh is quite nice looking. It has room for 2 140mm fans up top, 2 140mm(left hand side), 1 120 up front, 1 80mmX15mm side fan just under the CPU(right hand side of the case), 1 140mm for the back, and depending on the size of your PSU you can have up to a 140mm fan on the bottom of the case. PSU is located below the MB also with a vent for the PSU fan in the bottom of the case. It also helped that I got my cases for $40ish a pop with after rebates. Warning getting to the screws for the top fans is a PITA since you have to take the top of the case apart, which is plastic. That and the case is steel when aluminum in this design would have been very nice IMHO.

I am also looking at a Thermalright heatsink and fan to possibly replace my Tuniq, although my CPU is not running that hard yet. Need to see if my case will handle the back of the MB heatsink that comes with the Thermalright.
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May 27, 2008 8:33:35 PM

I have the CM-690 case too and really like it. Don't be scared off by the (unusual) 140mm fan remarks, it will mount 80s, 120s, or 140s. I am using 120s in mine; the standard front, 1xside, and rear, and I added one on top.
May 27, 2008 8:34:05 PM

Thanks for the case recommendation Judge/jtt283, it'll be a nice option if I go for air cooling. I'm considering water cooling as well, but am not sure if it'd be worth the investment/needed. I'm buried in the forums reading up on this as we speak, but any help is always appreciated. : )
May 27, 2008 8:49:33 PM

Water cooling is for people dedicated to mad overclocks. That's fine if you are, but otherwise the risk of literally hosing your system (even at 1%) just isn't worth it if air cooling is sufficient. Since you say you are new to this, and just want to play (sounds like uber-max settings aren't a requirement), I think you'll be happy with air.
May 27, 2008 8:52:39 PM

water cool only if you want to do some extreme overclocking and/or want a nearly silent PC (or atleast a quieter one) If you are gonna stick with air cooling, go with TR ultra-120 extreme.
May 27, 2008 9:37:12 PM

Hello judgedredd
im new to but heres my two cents worth (maybe only one) :) 
you have a great looking setup there!! i would say to stick with one graphics card for know and maybe just get the 3870 instead of the 3850.
for a psu i would look at the pc power and cooling 610watt from newegg: hhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
i realize its a down size but i think it will be enough. and it has a hold up time.
for a case i would recommend a Antec 900 or Antec 300. good cases and the 300 is not a lot of money.
i could not get your link for the mobo to work but it sounds kinda expensive.
what about this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
as for the quad core i would say thats probably the best you could get.( with out looking around for a while) :) 
as for the memory you are getting a 64-bit operating system right? other than that i say go for it.
the hard drive i would say do you realy need that much space? i have the 250Gb and im not evan to half way.
also you should look at a 10k hard drive. they are not to too much more money and they seem to be good( from what i'v read on newegg)
whew well thats all good luck!!

ps. if any thing on my post seems abnormal please let me know. thanks :) 
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