i currently have a prescot 3.0 @ 800 mhz fsb with 2 gig ddr ram @ 400 mhz.
the dual ram seam to simulate 800mhz.
this is the max setting on a intel 875 chipset board.
I'm not sure what you're getting at with this question.
A Q9450 will not work on any board with an 875 chipset.
If you're getting a new board, a Q9450 would work well at stock speeds with at least DDR2 667 (running at 1:1) although i would recommend at least DDR2 800 especially if you intend to overclock.
Why bother with slower ram and then use a divider when overclocking. I suggest you get some reasonable DDR3-1333 and run it 1:1 without hitting a wall at a modest overclock. DDR3 is cheap enough.
You only need an nvidia board if you want to have 2 nvidia cards and do SLI. If you only have one card (and don't plan on doing SLI in the future) then you can use pretty much any board.
Ok, well my board (P5N32-E SLI) and all 680/650 boards that i know of do not officially support the 45nm Quad Cores (Q9XXX, QX9XXX). If you get an nforce board better make it a 780/790 then.
@Vertigon:
I generally disagree with the comments about DDR3, I think DDR2 offers much more price/performance and DDR3 doesn't offer that much performance gain.
I wouldn't bother getting DDR3 for "futureproofing" either since Intel is changing the the whole socket/everything (quickpath) for Nehalem.
I wouldn't hit a wall with my DDR2 memory unless I tried to raise my FSB to at least over 2000 (500MHz x 4). I wouldn't call that a modest overclock...
That said however, I think the 790 would be a fine choice and DDR3 is fine if you don't mind spending the extra money on it.
Message edited by pshrk on 07-09-2008 at 02:40:14 AM
"futureproofing", wel my current beast has kept up for almost 5 years.
and AGP is technology of the past : (.
prescot 3.0 with 2 gig ddr400 + fx5500.
DFI lanparty 875pro .... the board was 279€ back than, this was the most exspensive board u could buy back then.
i'm just changing the parts of my box.
hd's replaced 1 month ago.
power suply 2 months ago.
bought a en8800gt.
i take it relaxed, every month a piece until i have it all.
the pain about SLI is, u need a 700+ watt psu, that wil be another 100€ + 180€ for the 2nd gfx card.
"I wouldn't hit a wall with my DDR2 memory unless I tried to raise my FSB to at least over 2000 (500MHz x 4). I wouldn't call that a modest overclock..."
I wouldn't call it a modest overclock either but I like good ram and always aim for 1:1 if I can. I actually have ddr3-1333 on my ga-x48-dq6 board and wish I'd got some 1600mhz ram because now I don't have any headroom at 1:1. Fortunetly I bought some corsair and can run at 9.5x450mhz to give me 4.275Ghz at the cpu. Really it's about how much he wants to spend and what he wants to do.
I don't know alot about 790i board and best you see what this board is overclocking to and RAM compatibility issues in the overclocking section. If you don't want to SLI and want a great chipset I can recomend the X48. It has crossfire standard and will support 2x4870's or one nvidia card. Oh and as for buying one piece a month, don't. The longer you wait in technology, the cheaper it all gets. Think of what you can spend the savings on when you finally have enough for it all, also maybe consider selling your current rig.
Good point, I was thinking he would have to buy a new board no matter what so it didn't matter, but I forgot that he could reuse the ram if he bought a new Nehalem board!
@natural_silly:
I think the 8800GT is still a great card, but just to give you options...
How long ago did u get your 8800GT? Can u return it and do crossfire with 4850s or 4870s and an intel chipset?
i'm gonna sell the current rig.
i think it wil bring some 100€
3.0 prescot with 4 x 512 kingston and dfi 875pro lanparty.
any offer?
: )
i'm keeping the case, the psu and the hd's.
next month i buy 2 more hd's of the same model 250gb maxtor, the same i bought 2 months back and the Q9450.
2 hd's = 76€(38€)
cpu = 276€
the month after, i'll buy the board and the ram.
and i want it to be nforce chipstted.
316€ for nforce 790i
and ? for ram.
i don 't care if i spend 3 or 7€ les or more.
than it wil be a 4 disk raid 0+1 build.
hitting a maxed out unoverclocked machine.
i choose the q9450 for the amount of L2 cache it has.
i think that's most importand factor of a computer.
before i had the prescott 3.0 (ebay for 39€), i had my officialy first owner 2,533 p4. with 533 fsb, 512kb L2 cache in the same board and amount of ram.
however, my laptop 'seams' 2 be faster on certain areas with 1,7 gig @ 400fsb and '2 MEGABYTE' L2 cache.
back than i payed ...
204€ for cpu p4 2.533
279€ for mobo, dfi lanparty
20x€ for dvd burner, a pioneer 8 speed.
2 x 120€ for samsung 120gb sata
2 x xx€ for 80gb disc ata.
2xx€ for a ATI radeon 9600.
xxx€ for a 512 ddr 400 ram.
later ...
4 x 70€ for 512mb kingston strip.
it was a complex build, because first i bought parts @ a other shop.
but the mobo had a bios error and fried the ati 9600, ati9000 pro and ati9200? ended up with a refund cheuqe, bought a hercules smart steroe tv cardand the pioneer dvd burner. vited another shop to buy the missin parts.
a dfi 875lanparty and a ati7000, lol but it was enough to play age of empires.
the dfi mobo, also had a production error and had to be send back, i bought a gigabyte low budget, i think 1000pipeit was.(atleast if didn't fry my ati7000).
i used that board because i was to lazy to build back the new waranty board. it was bxoed for over 3 years.
so it was a considerable exspensive computer.
it coming to it end : (, because beneath my desk a BIG green box with a banging 8800gt ... screaming, let me out .
it must be fast because i hate waiting between switchen things.
Message edited by Natural_Silly on 07-09-2008 at 12:45:08 PM
I think the 8800GT is still a great card, but just to give you options...
How long ago did u get your 8800GT? Can u return it and do crossfire with 4850s or 4870s and an intel chipset?
@pshrk:
i got it 1 month ago, mail order.
my friend bought one, just before me, me was impressed after mounting it in his machine.
than i got one myself.
i only play second life and visual studio, if there should be some spare time, i look @ age empires.
my friend researched it, i researched it.
conclusion: it was best price/value card avaiable. all other nvidia gove over 400€ ad more.
it's a 1024mb ddr3 card.
and it was 179€.
i have had one of the best intel chipset, the 875 and the 865.
but no native linux drivers
: (
else i would choose a x48 board, to uphold the tradition of ati gpu and intel chipset.
Asus P5E3 Premium/WiFi-AP @n is the way 2 go.
if it wasn't for the data lost problem, i have read in this forum and benchmarks.
it's the best ddr3 candidate.
and ram? witch type of ddr3 should i take. it's for a no overclocking system.
Message edited by Natural_Silly on 07-09-2008 at 07:07:44 PM
i have had one of the best intel chipset, the 875 and the 865.
but no native linux drivers
: (
else i would choose a x48 board, to uphold the tradition of ati gpu and intel chipset.
No native linux drivers for what? 875 Boards? Use the Intel PIIXn in kernel drivers, I'm sure it would be the same for X48 chipsets too. Do you mean proprietary chipset drivers made by Intel? If so i wouldn't use them even if they made them I'm sure the in kernel ones are better.
Only thing about linux drivers... Nvidia's proprietary graphics drivers are little better than ATI's proprietary graphics drivers. I use both.
wel, i did install a few brand of linux some time ago, but no sata support.
tried suse, redhat and i don't remember what ended up with buying a apple powermac.
.