A Very high end pc for myself.

[nines-]

The time has come. MY old Pentium EE and 6800gt's in sli cant handle 24 lcd. That was such a nice pc and I had it since November of 2004 But hell! It could really!! play crysis at medium settings on 17 lcd!

The price does not really matter. I just want to build a really FAST pc, that will last for years. Like my previous one.
Here are the components I'm thinking about:

Core 2 Extreme qx 9650 or 9770 ( oc to 4-4.2) ghz
48x chipset. Which one?!
Mobo: Giga Byte GA-X48T-DQ6 or?
4 gb of the fastest ddr3 ram.
Ocz 2000mhz 4gb or Corsair 1600 mhz 4 gb?
Ocz 850w gamers psu.
Not sure about GPU though. I think I'am not gonna buy a graphic card now. Ill take 9600gt from my parents pc. I guess it will hold some games with 4ghz quad core for now. AFter i think of sliing 4870's or gt280's.
All the parts of my system will be over clocked as i have Zalman hybrid cooling system.

What do you think about my specs? I am not really good at hardware now, so maybe I missed something

 

[aevm]

What a horrible waste of money. You could spend half of that on something with 90% of the speed of that setup, and the other half in two years on something with 150% of that speed.

Try something like this:
Q6700 (OC to 4 GHz)
GA-EX38-DS4
Xigmatek HDT-S1283
DDR2-1066
One 3870X2 for now. Add a 4870X2 later.
Enermax Galaxy 1000W (so you can support 4 GPUs)

 

[nines-]

Uhmmm q6700 is 65nm and draws more energy. Plus, its 2.66. Wont it damage @ 4+ ghz? I've never seen q6700 going 3.8+++
Isn't ddr2 1066 slower than ddr3 2000? And that x38 chipset doesnt support ddr3 does it?
Well, I am not gonna buy a gpu now. Whats the point of waisint ~450 bucks on 3870x2 if a single gpu will outperform it after 1 month.
Psu is indeed a problem. The best i can find in my country is Chieftec 1000w

 

[aevm]

Yes, the Q6700 is 65nm and draws more energy. However, at least in the US, it costs $1200 less than the QX9770. I honestly don't think the additional electricity cost can ever make up for that. Even at 3.6 GHz or something like that, the Q6700 is more than most games need. The problem in games if having enough GPU power. The CPU is a limiting factor only rarely, for example in Flight Simulator X.

Yes, GA-EX38-DS4 supports DDR2. That's the point. DDR2 is a better investment than DDR3. Almost the same performance for 1/3 of the price.

Right, if you already have a 9600GT it's smart to use it until we see reviews for the 4xxx series and the GTX 280.

 

[Oh Snap]

Dude just wait a couple weeks for the new nvidia and ati cards coming out.

 

[ilovebarny]

aevm its 100% right!! the price is not worth it i have a e6750 and so far have not had any problems processor wise. if you realy want to go for like a q6600.
and if you can afford it ya sure get the 3870x2, other wise ya just stick to the 9600 and wait till the nextgen cards come out.

 

[mihirkula]

+1 for AEVM's rig choice.

 

[MCMONOPOLY]

The price does not really matter. I just want to build a really FAST pc, that will last for years. Like my previous one.
Here are the components I'm thinking about:

Heck, if money is no object why not go for a Skulltrail system..You could put another ~1350$ CPU in there to waste idle cycles!
And 8GB of ECC DDR3 RAM at that.

I've yet to see any game use 4 cores @ more than ~30% at all times...
Supreme Commander sucks up cycles more than other games, but that's only 1 game.

As far as the GPu goes, I'd wait to see the 4XXX series performance first before buying anything.

 

[nines-]

Umm thanks for your constructive reply. I will think about it. The rblem is i dont want to spend any money on upgrades in the next two-three years. Will q6700@~4 do the job? Will 4 gb of 1066 ddr2 be enough or upcoming games and applications?

 

[nines-]

And i do not want to use skulltrail According to the review it sux

 

[mihirkula]

^... NOTHING is gonna look fast and shiny in 2-3 years... every 6 months there's a spanking new GPU and CPU in the market which make our rig look obsolete.... and the prices of the RAM keep tumbling down....

4GB of RAM is quite sufficient... and if required, you can always put in extra RAM whenever.

Even Q6600 would do the job very well...i find the price to performance ratio of Q6700 not as good as the good old Q6600. Anyways for gaming i always recommend E8400 rather than the quad.

 

[50bmg]

If you want Quad and 45nm go with q9450 - $360.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115042

It is $100 more than the q6xxx but it is $700 cheaper than the qx9xxx.

Otherwise aevm is right on the money.

 

[aznguy0028]

wow...even if you don't want a Q6600,Q6700 or E8400, 8500...

going for the C2Q extreme processors is such a waste of money.

a Q6600 or Q6700 will suffice but if you absolutely have money to burn unlike the rest of us. try waiting for the Q9650. 45nm 333fsb x 9 = 3.0ghz quad core. 3.6ghz if you're gonna raise the fsb to 400. a 3.6ghz quad is nothing to laugh about.

DDR3 is such a waste of money... the only time in the foreseeable future when DDR3 is going to have much impact is with the introduction of the nehalem architecture where ram will be used in triple data rate, as the ram banks will either come in 3 slots or multiples of 3, from what i know, 6 will be the max.

 

[zenmaster]

And while the poster may not want to "upgrade" for a few years, he should really reconsider that.

Whatever he builds today, will be put to shame by a $1500-$2000 build this time next year. Even if he spends $5000+ now.

 

[nines-]

Thanks 50bmg, 45 nm q9450 is really an interesting processor.
Uhh i know, that if i spend money now, the price of my machine will go down after even 3 month. But is it worith buying anything then? Should we always wait for smth? Oo i guess no.

NOTHING is gonna look fast and shiny in 2-3 years...

My previous rig - Oc'ed pentium EE with 6800gt's sli still shined, even a year ago ( 12x8 tho)

Anyway, thatnks for the replys guys. I really think i won't waste money on that ddr3 and get a cheaper processor. So how does my rig look now:

Q9450 or q6700 - i prefer q9450 cuz it's 45 nm but q6700 higher multi ??
GIga byte GA-EX38-DS4
2 x 2 DDR2-1066 - which manufacturer?
Xigmatek HDT-S1283
Chifetec 1000w psu? - cant find anything better in my country tho (( sh*t

 

[dv8silencer]

Only 4 GB of RAM? Couple of years from now, nothing will be suffocating you more than that.
IMO More RAM is better than less just-a-little-faster RAM...

 

[dv8silencer]

Thanks 50bmg, 45 nm q9450 is really an interesting processor.
Uhh i know, that if i spend money now, the price of my machine will go down after even 3 month. But is it worith buying anything then? Should we always wait for smth? Oo i guess no.

NOTHING is gonna look fast and shiny in 2-3 years...

My previous rig - Oc'ed pentium EE with 6800gt's sli still shined, even a year ago ( 12x8 tho)

Anyway, thatnks for the replys guys. I really think i won't waste money on that ddr3 and get a cheaper processor. So how does my rig look now:

Q9450 or q6700 - i prefer q9450 cuz it's 45 nm but q6700 higher multi ??
GIga byte GA-EX38-DS4
2 x 2 DDR2-1066 - which manufacturer?
Xigmatek HDT-S1283
Chifetec 1000w psu? - cant find anything better in my country tho (( sh*t

Get 2 more sticks of that RAM
and if you'd rather not spend that much more money than get 4 sticks of 2 GB DDR2-800 Ram since you won't be able to tell the difference between 800&1066 anyways

 

[doubletake33]

my votes for the Q9450 because of 45nm tech! but do wait till next month to see what's coming out from nvidia and ati gpu wise.

 

[wesbuck]

What programs will he need 8gb or RAM for??

 

[aznguy0028]

i would get the Q9450 if you can find it. if you're gonna use the Q6700, i don't think you really need an x38 board. a P35 would suffice. but i would get an x38 if i went with the Q9450

i would go with G.Skill memory...i'd get these myself but my ballistix serves me fine
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231166

and ditch your PSU. 1000w is just overkill. anything within the 550-650w range is good enough. imo, 850w if you're going to crossfirex (2 x 4870x2) to be on the safe side again.

4gb is sufficient enough now if you're running xp32 because it wont detect anything more than 3.25gb. i wouldn't use vista personally but that is just my choice.

besides, if you need another 4gb of ram later on when things get more demanding, it'll be even cheaper then. you'll have options later so i wouldn't worry.

technology is always changing and evolving, what you buy now will ALWAYS get cheaper (given some exceptions). but 99% of things will deteriorate in value. just as long as you had good deals on great products at the time, you should be content with your purchase.

 

[dv8silencer]

i would get the Q9450 if you can find it. if you're gonna use the Q6700, i don't think you really need an x38 board. a P35 would suffice. but i would get an x38 if i went with the Q9450

i would go with G.Skill memory...i'd get these myself but my ballistix serves me fine
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231166

and ditch your PSU. 1000w is just overkill. anything within the 550-650w range is good enough. imo, 850w if you're going to crossfirex (2 x 4870x2) to be on the safe side again.

4gb is sufficient enough now if you're running xp32 because it wont detect anything more than 3.25gb. i wouldn't use vista personally but that is just my choice.

besides, if you need another 4gb of ram later on when things get more demanding, it'll be even cheaper then. you'll have options later so i wouldn't worry.

technology is always changing and evolving, what you buy now will ALWAYS get cheaper (given some exceptions). but 99% of things will deteriorate in value. just as long as you had good deals on great products at the time, you should be content with your purchase.

Oh yeah, go ahead and get Vista 64-bit
8 GB + superfetch FTW
My 8GB is based on him saying he didn't plan on upgrading for a several years. I do agree you can just expand later, no doubt.

 

[wesbuck]

Ye and get a good quality psu like cosair, that is effiecient so the lower wattage will have more of an effect on the system saving money on electricity (and of course help global warming cough cough ).

 

[nines-]

The best Corsair PSU i can afford is 650. And it won't be enough for 280gtx sli

 

[wesbuck]

Hmm ye, i've not heard much about the new cards, how much wattage are they supposed to consume??

 

[roadrunner197069]

Ya good luck finding the q9450. Its more rare then a sasquatch. I doubt Intel will be supplying many more either, ince they are phasing it out already. It will be replaced with the q9400 in July.

Price cuts are comming in July as well.