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July 9, 2008 11:28:07 AM

Hey guys i wanna buy a new comp n well i want suggestions

CPU- quad core budget abut 300$
motherboard -300$
Ram -150$
GPU well am confused whether to go for 9800gtx+ in Sli o 4850 crossfire
N a good psu

Thnx 4 your help..

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July 9, 2008 1:33:06 PM

Google both cards and look at the benchmarks of the games that you play. Whichever card beats out the other in those games is the one you wanna get.
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July 9, 2008 2:37:13 PM

CPU - Q6600 - $210

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo - Asus P5Q Deluxe - $210

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory - Corsair XMS2 DHX PC6400 4GB - $103

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

That is a difference of $227 dollars on parts so you can get 2 4850s and CF them for a better gaming result. I wen witht the Q6600 because its the best deal on a quad core and it will easily OC to 3GHz no problem (I have one). The mobo uses the P45 chipset which is a great OC'ing chipset and much more stable. That plus the 16 phase voltage regulators will allow more stable and better OCing. The memory because Corsair is very fast and it has a lifetime warranty.

For PSU - Thermaltake 750W PSU $190 bucks

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

this is a good PSU brand and 750W is enough to power that system.

Good luck.
July 9, 2008 2:47:11 PM

Howdy Jimmy,

I was wondering if the mobo you recommended supports crossfireX at 16x for both PCI lanes? I know it probably doesn't make a whole lot of actual difference as opposed to 8x speed, but its still nice to be able to give them full speed on the lanes. :) 
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July 9, 2008 3:00:28 PM

The CF would be at 8x unfortunately. It would be like having 2 PCIe 1.1 @ 16x though as it is PCIe 2.0.

But if you want 2 full 16x PCIe 2.0 lanes you would have to get a X48 chipset. Thats the only benefit to that chipset over the P45. Other than that the P45 is a much better overclocking and much more stable chipset.
July 9, 2008 3:27:37 PM

i think crossfire is the way to go for your build, there is less problem with crossfire and you can use a stable intel chipset

ASUS P5Q Deluxe LGA 775 Intel P45 Intel Motherboard $209
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 $270
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Patriot Viper 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1200 $75 i would recommend getting 2 pairs for $150
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS EAH4850/HTDI/512M Radeon HD 4850 512MB $195-$30 rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Thermaltake W0106RU 700W $150-$50 rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

total = 900
900-80 rebate
total cost after rebates = 820

what is your total build cost?
do you have a harddrive , cd drive, case?
do you plan on oc'ing
July 9, 2008 3:33:27 PM

jimmysmitty said:
The CF would be at 8x unfortunately. It would be like having 2 PCIe 1.1 @ 16x though as it is PCIe 2.0.

But if you want 2 full 16x PCIe 2.0 lanes you would have to get a X48 chipset. Thats the only benefit to that chipset over the P45. Other than that the P45 is a much better overclocking and much more stable chipset.



i haven't seen any charts to see how much better 16x is then 8x but if its more stable and a better at oc'ing. it seems like you can sacrifice a little performance you'll gain it back in oc'ing. just do lots of research and build something that will suit your needs
July 9, 2008 3:52:15 PM

You want the full X16/X16 lane speed so....

CPU: Q6600, it is cheap and performs on par with just about everything else, and it allows you to save money. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard: DFI Lanparty, good motherboard at a great price, it will serve you well especially if you want to overclock later in life. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: Patriot Viper 2 x 2GB, good memory good timings, and a good price. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Get 2 4850s

Power Supply: PC Power and Cooling, this is the absolute best 750w power supply and is not overpriced like the Thermaltake listed above. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
July 9, 2008 4:22:35 PM

well i jst need the above i have the rest..so asus p5q is the way to go??

Thnx for all your replies.. am looking fwd to tryin the crossfire setup..
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July 9, 2008 4:41:16 PM

What games will you play, and at what resolution? One of the best guides is guru3d. http://www.guru3d.com/index.php?page=vga_charts
What I find interesting is that at 1920x1200 a single 9800GX2 or GTX 280 will play any game at over 60fps, which is considered best possible gameplay. I expect that the upcoming 4870X2 will also do it. Why pay more for higher capability? A LCD monitor will have a refresh rate of 60hz(some claim 120hz), but your eye can not detect much over 75hz.
With the lowered prices of the GTX280, I would try that first if you have to buy today. The 4870X2 may well become a better deal by the end of the summer.

At the level of the E8500 or Q6600, the vga card is much more important for gaming than the cpu.
Today, very few games can make use of more than two cores.
Flight simulator X is an exception. It is not a trivial matter to code multi threaded programs,
and game vendors will not sell too many games that require quads to run.
I don't see this changing in the next couple of years, and then nehalem will be upon us.

Net: E8500 for the increased clock speed.



July 9, 2008 4:41:20 PM

How much overclocking are you planning on doing?
If your going for a high overclock go with the Asus p5q, as its a p45 chipset which is an excellent overclocker.

However if your only going for a low to mid-range overclock I'd get the X38, or X48 chipset mobos that have been recommended, as they will provide your crossfireX setup with its full potential speed, since they'll run both PCIe 2.0 lanes at 16x speed when crossfired.
July 9, 2008 4:59:27 PM

well pcie 2.0 16x doesn't benefit much from an 8x slot except in flight simulator and call of duty. you might lose around 1-5 fps in most games.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pci-express-2-0,191...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pci-express-2-0,191...

but i will recommend pci 16x over 8x. but like bobfacebilly said if you want to oc go with the p5q and if you want more stable performance

if your planning to oc i wouldn't use a stock fan i dont know if you already have an aftermarket
July 9, 2008 4:59:48 PM

well i dnt intend on overclockin much just a little..
which x38 mobo? n arnt a x48's a little on the expensive side?
July 9, 2008 5:09:02 PM

You definitely want an x38 or x48 mobo, not the P5Q as crossfire won't cut it as it would be running at x8/x8 lanes in p45 mobos, and x16/x16 in x38 or x48 mobo.
July 9, 2008 5:24:39 PM

how abut the asus maximus formula??
July 9, 2008 5:38:17 PM

That'd work as well, its a x38 chipset and would run your crossfireX at 16x/16x.

If your looking at the one on newegg take note that it is an "open box" item.
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July 9, 2008 6:08:25 PM

The P5E Deluxe is better then the Maximus Formula because it is the X48, The P5E Deluxe is the Rampage Formula minus the LCD Poster and the onboard buttons.

I have the Rampage Formula and it ROCKS. I have had it to 463 FBS stable but due to the summer I went to 450 for heat reasons. This board has so many options in the BIOS to finetune you overclock.

Bob facebilly is right on the money with his first post in this thread. the only thing I would change in the list is the RAM get atleast DDR-1000. The Q9450 will do 3.6 on Air. 3.6 is 450 FBS and DDR2 would be running at 900(450X2). Yes some DDR2-800 will run at 1066 but not all, I learned that the hard way, I got some Corsair DDR2-800 that would not run above 875 no matter what voltage I set it at. If you get DDR2-1066 you will not run into that problem. I went with OCZ DDR2-1000 so i could go above 400 FBS.

The HD4950 in Crossfire is a great deal now. I have my second card in route.



Q9450
P5E Deluxe
4 Gig of DDR2-1000 or better
2X HD4850 The ones with the best price or rebates
The power and cooling PSU is great


1Haplo
July 9, 2008 6:39:23 PM

Thnx for the advice..
So il go for the config u just mentioned above..(1Haplo)
July 9, 2008 7:15:26 PM

I second that decision.
I wasn't sure on the multiplier of the Q9450, but haplo1 is absolutely right. If your gonna want to overclock past 3.2 ghz you'll do best to go with some good ddr2-1000 memory.

Good luck, and have fun! :) 
July 9, 2008 7:32:16 PM

yeah +1 for 1haplo
the q9450 is around 40 more than the q9300 but you have a bigger cache and i here of it oc'ing more and better
July 9, 2008 9:08:45 PM

jimmysmitty said:
CPU - Q6600 - $210

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo - Asus P5Q Deluxe - $210

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory - Corsair XMS2 DHX PC6400 4GB - $103

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

That is a difference of $227 dollars on parts so you can get 2 4850s and CF them for a better gaming result. I wen witht the Q6600 because its the best deal on a quad core and it will easily OC to 3GHz no problem (I have one). The mobo uses the P45 chipset which is a great OC'ing chipset and much more stable. That plus the 16 phase voltage regulators will allow more stable and better OCing. The memory because Corsair is very fast and it has a lifetime warranty.

For PSU - Thermaltake 750W PSU $190 bucks

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

this is a good PSU brand and 750W is enough to power that system.

Good luck.


id go for everything, but get a P5K-C instead

ive got it, n the only thing that ive had wrong with it is getting it past 494mhz fsb. thats all, near 4ghz on my e8200. n as far as i know its x2 x16 slots!!!
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