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Upgrading 8800gts 320mb, choose a card 8800gts vs 9800gtx

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Hey guys i cant decide what to buy,

If i buy this card then i save money

BFG GeForce 8800 GTS OC 512MB 675MHz GDDR3 PCI-E 2.0
215$$

http://www.buy.com/retail/Product. [...] caid=15894

or go all out and get this card

9800gtx black edition XFX
around 300$$

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] CatId=3585


I have a fast enough processor 6600.

What i want to know is that i dont game on 1900x1200 resolution but i want a fast card for 1440x900 resolution for atleast another year and a half.


I want to know whether the BFG card will be fast enough at that Res and a good upgrade to a 8800 gts 320mb

also people i am not waiting i for the ati cards.

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i ordered a 9800GTX and i will test company of hero's and some other games on it and see how it does i will be useing my 22" LG widescreen 1680x1050. so if you can hold off until tomorrow i will let you know how good the 9800GTX is.


My setup will be

Q9450 stock
cosair 2gbx2 DDR2 1066
500gb 7.2k 300gb 10k raptor 16mb
Evga 9800GTX
Evga 750i FTW mobtherboard.

i will let you how well it went.

Thanks
Brian

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Reply to killz86
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I'd go for an 8800GTS 512MB, but not one for $215 AR. You can find them much cheaper than that. ($167 shipped AR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814134037
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814127325

cheaper still:
http://fxvideocards.com/ZOTAC-GeFo [...] 16280.html


Message edited by pauldh on 06-18-2008 at 12:14:16 AM
Reply to pauldh

Is ECS a decent company to buy from any experience ,

Pauldh i would like to hear your opinion on it , as well as anyone else who may want to gie theirs.

Brian ill wait for your benchmarks as well.

thanks guys , little more input needed..

Reply to slashzapper
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my vote:
$269.99
EVGA GeForce 9800 GTX 512MB GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 SLI Ready Video Card
http://www.buy.com/retail/product. [...] 17&loc=101

OC the card yourself.

Reply to grieve
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In term of performance, 9800gtx = 8800gts. It makes sense as they both use identical g92 core with the same 128 stream processors. If you can get 9800gtx for the same or cheaper price as 8800gts, you should consider it, otherwise, ignore it.
http://en.expreview.com/2008/04/03 [...] review/12/

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Reply to dagger

Hi guys read on some other forums that its not worth going with ECS crappy service ..so i think that MSI is a better company choice.


I feel confused between the gtx 9800 or the 8800gts g92 chip dude ..but i am pretty sure that the xtra money isnt worth the little performance gain.

I more or less change my card in a year or so to the Next gen.

Still :??:

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Message edited by slashzapper on 06-18-2008 at 12:26:56 AM
Reply to slashzapper
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i vote gts because i play on my $209 msi 8800 gts g92 at 1440x900 and i could finally play crysis , and since its cheap it doesnt hurt as much by upgrading in a year or so

Reply to Xternal
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slashzapper wrote :

Hi guys read on some other forums that its not worth going with ECS crappy service ..so i think that MSI is a good choice.


What service? It's a card. If it comes defective, which hardly ever happens, rma to newegg, if not, you do not need service. Besides, 3 year warranty is good enough, the card will be long obsolete after 3 years anyway. It's $50 more for service you'll likely never use. You can buy extended warranty for less than that.

 

I currently use a MSI card, btw, since it was the cheapest at the time I built the current rig. :p

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Reply to dagger

Also one more thing, can i run this card on a pci express 1.0 meaning i dont have a board with a 2.0 pci express board.

Reply to slashzapper
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yes it can run on 1.0

Reply to Xternal
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slashzapper wrote :

Hi guys read on some other forums that its not worth going with ECS crappy service ..so i think that MSI is a good choice.


I'd rather have evga or XFX, but I wouldn't pay more than $20 extra tops for one. How much service do you need for a video card anyway? I'd only be concerned if it were the $50 rebate people complained they were not getting. Buy it from Newegg and they will replace it for 1 year if it goes bad. Also, Can't say for sure, but I doubt ECS makes the card anyway. I'd be surprised if it weren't a flextronics or foxconn rebadged like many of the other "brands".

The cheaper Zotac may even be OK. Not sure how the rebates are. But it's a Lifetime warranty. Not Newegg by any means, but I ordered a Zotac 8800GTS 320MB for $88 shipped from FX Videocards and all went smoothly with the transaction. I would buy from them again and even buy that $147AR GTS now if I needed the card. No tax to me unlike Newegg makes it a bigger bargain.



Reply to pauldh

I would wait for the 4870.

Reply to sogangsta
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I would keep the 320mb 8800 at that resolution--you won't be bound by the frame buffer. Any upgrade wouldn't show enough gains to make it worthwhile

Reply to hesskia
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Do you really need a new card? I'd think the 8800gts 320 could handle most games at 1440X900.... my X1950pro w/256 does decently with most games at 1680X1050....

But if you really want to upgrade now, I would definitely go with the 8800gts 512.

Otherwise, I would actually suggest waiting to see what ATI has coming. The 4850 should cost around $200, and may perform higher than or close to an 8800gts 512.

Edit: Hesskia beat me.


Message edited by yadge on 06-18-2008 at 12:58:10 AM
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I have the 320 w/ 22" LCD and have come to the same conclusion--anything that i upgrade too won't be worthwhile unless i spend $400+ which isn't worth it to me at this time. I almost pickedu p a 2nd 320 on the Zotac deal, but missed out cause i contemplated it too much.

Reply to hesskia
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Yeah, for me with the x1950 pro, it definitely is worth it by now. I'm just waiting for the 4850. Then it'll be all good.

Reply to yadge

Sorry SZ, you should wait. The way its looking, the 4850 is better than a GTS, and for 200 its a good deal. Theyre going on sale in europe tomorrow, so maybe here in the states as well, no waiting

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jaydeejohn wrote :

Sorry SZ, you should wait. The way its looking, the 4850 is better than a GTS, and for 200 its a good deal. Theyre going on sale in europe tomorrow, so maybe here in the states as well, no waiting


So far, 4850 seems like it's only slightly better than a stock g92 8800gts, and likely not oc as well. At $200, it's not the best value compared to gts's $160 after mir. 4870 is the sweet spot. :p

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Reply to dagger

We dont really know how well they oc yet, as everything Ive seen http://www.xtremesystems.org/forum [...] ost3059788 has to be done in CCC which is still a 12.5% oc, but time will tell. Its the same chip that its big brother has which starts at a 20% higher clock, I think theyll oc very well, and after the dust clears, there may be some choice buys, cause overseas theyre already selling for as low as 210, maybe cheaper in the states from the git go

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Reply to jaydeejohn

Hey Dudes

getting the xfx 9800gtx for 220$ with call of duty and its the extrme edition check it out over here

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] CatId=1826

I couldn't find a better deal on the 9800gtx and as such i am taking the plunge as in a few months i'll pic another 2 and go 3 way sli FTW whooo

Reply to slashzapper

slashzapper wrote :

Hey Dudes

getting the xfx 9800gtx for 220$ with call of duty and its the extrme edition check it out over here

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] CatId=1826

I couldn't find a better deal on the 9800gtx and as such i am taking the plunge as in a few months i'll pic another 2 and go 3 way sli FTW whooo



Yes you are right if you upgrade from 8800GTS 320M, it is the only good option to build a 3 way SLI with 9800 GTX or SLI 9800 GX2 right now because the price of 9800 GX2 also dropped to more attractive price.

Reply to Crazy-PC

Dude i cant make out if you are being sarcastic or serious :lol:

Reply to slashzapper

Why pay 220 when you can get similar or greater performance with a 4850? Save yourself some money http://fxvideocards.com/Sapphire-H [...] 16386.html When DX10.1 games come out, or even DX11, these will be even better


Message edited by jaydeejohn on 06-19-2008 at 08:29:07 AM
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Reply to jaydeejohn

Dude the problem is going to be availability and the more importantly i am only visiting the states for the summer , heading back home on the 6th of July , so i doubt i can get hold of one of these , any idea if they will be available of the Shelf ?? before that ..

Reply to slashzapper

Did you even check out my link? Theyre here now

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Reply to jaydeejohn

I know but is that reliable i mean will they actually ship ..also i have had some issues with Sapphire Brand ....has it improves .. i bought a x1800gto and it had some serious cooling issues ...
Do u think i should order this card ..or wait for a better brand ..

Reply to slashzapper

slashzapper wrote :

I know but is that reliable i mean will they actually ship ..also i have had some issues with Sapphire Brand ....has it improves .. i bought a x1800gto and it had some serious cooling issues ...
Do u think i should order this card ..or wait for a better brand ..



The 4850 is faster than a 9800gtx from the review's i have seen save yourself a hundred buck's get the better performing 4850 an watch the 9600gt and 9800gtx go wayyyy down in price or dissapear all together.

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Reply to xx12amanxx

Cool i am convinced ...picking up the 4850 tommorow , now should i pick up 2 cards or is one card going to be enough for 1440x900 res on a 19inch widescreen.

Reply to slashzapper

Unless its Crysis, good to go. And by that I mean, all other games full eyecandy, just not with Crysis


Message edited by jaydeejohn on 06-19-2008 at 09:40:52 AM
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