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First Build: $1000-1200 gaming PC Help please!

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May 28, 2008 11:02:38 PM

Hello everyone this gaming pc will be my very first build so I'm new at this, I plan on ordering the parts in a couple weeks.

I have a budget of about $1000-$1200 USD and that has to include an OS.

The only parts I have decided on are the case, CPU, GPU, and OS but everything else I'm not sure what to get.

Case: Antec 900 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU: Intel Q6600 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: BFG 8800GT 512mb OC http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OS: Vista Home Premium 32 bit http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'm not set on the other parts so I need some help with picking them out and staying in my budget. I do plan on overclocking my CPU so I'll need a motherboard that is good for that but I DO NOT plan on running SLI. I'll also be needing a wireless internet adapter but I'm not sure what's a good brand for those.

If you need to know any other info. just let me know.

Thanks in advance for all the help I get!

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May 29, 2008 1:14:29 AM

Unless you plan on doing a bunch of 3D editing/rendering etc you really do not need a quad core CPU. You could save some cash buy getting E7200 instead.

With that said, have a look at this build:

CPU: Intel Core2Duo E7200 or Q6600
Motherboard: Asus P5E Intel X38 chipset
RAM: G.Skill 2GB DDR2-800 4-4-4-12
Hard Drive: 500GB WD SATA II
Optical Drive: Lite-on SATA 20X burner w/ Nero
Case:Antec 900
Power Supply: CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W
OS: Vista Home Prem
Input Device: MS Keyboard and Mouse
Video Card: BFG 8800GT 512MB
Arctic Cooling MX-2 compound
May 29, 2008 1:19:05 AM

Shadowduck posts a nice build, except maybe increase the RAM to 2X2 gigs instead of 2X1 gigs. I prefer the Samsung SATA DVD 20X burner as well - quieter.
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May 29, 2008 1:53:27 AM

Cabling isn't a option? That is always best.

Modode- you go for that question. I am always wired.

GTS will marginally increase performance, not really worth the extra cash.
May 29, 2008 2:00:30 AM

Go wired ethernet for your internet access if at all possible - it's so much faster than any wireless it's sick.

If you really want a wireless card, I'd go with a reputable company and a card that's relatively cheap and well reviewed on newegg, like this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

That is, unless you have a wireless router that supports 802.11n (unlikely), then go with a compatible card for faster speeds.
May 29, 2008 2:06:04 AM

Ok thanks a lot guys. I have another question though, do I need a heatsink(I think that's what it's called) for my CPU if I'm going to OC it?
May 29, 2008 2:12:32 AM

Yes, you will want to buy a new HS/F for your CPU if you want to OC. Stock HS/F is pretty much crap.
May 29, 2008 2:15:23 AM

efx92 said:
Ok thanks a lot guys. I have another question though, do I need a heatsink(I think that's what it's called) for my CPU if I'm going to OC it?


With the Q6600, I would say yes. Here's two that are very cost effective - I've used the AC Cooler Pro 7 and it's very easy to install and quite effective. The second one is in transit to me currently via UPS for a higher end build that I plan to aggressively oc.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

May 29, 2008 2:32:40 AM

Ok Here's all the parts I have right now

DVD Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $28.99

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $119.99

HD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $79.99

GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $189.99

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $109.99

RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $94.99

MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $224.99

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $219.99

OS: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $99.99

Heatsink: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $26.99

Thermal Compound: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $6.99

Total(with shipping and tax): $1,309.45

So I went a bit over budget, is there anything I can replace to cut down my price a little bit? There's a $30 MIR on the graphics card so take $30 off the total but I'm still about $80 over budget.
May 29, 2008 2:38:58 AM

Look at Gigabyte X38 boards. You can get one for $199 that cuts a little out.
Dual core is more than acceptable now. E7200 and overclock it. Don't really need quad unless you are doing video/3d work right now.
May 29, 2008 2:49:24 AM

shadowduck said:
Look at Gigabyte X38 boards. You can get one for $199 that cuts a little out.
Dual core is more than acceptable now. E7200 and overclock it. Don't really need quad unless you are doing video/3d work right now.

Yeah, I was thinking about dual core but I read somewhere that games are going to start taking advantage of quad cores soon and I want this system to be somewhat future proof.
May 29, 2008 2:51:53 AM

Games don't even take advantage of dual core yet. Assassin's Creed is the first game to require a dual core (2008 release) and even it can run on a single core machine with some mods.

Games wont be using quad cores for a long time.
May 29, 2008 2:53:02 AM

shadowduck said:
Games don't even take advantage of dual core yet. Assassin's Creed is the first game to require a dual core (2008 release) and even it can run on a single core machine with some mods.

Games wont be using quad cores for a long time.

Hmm, ok I'll consider it then.
May 29, 2008 3:02:31 AM

Oh, I just thought of something, If I'm getting 32 bit Vista I can't have 4GB of RAM can I?
May 29, 2008 3:11:30 AM

You can have that much memory, it just won't utilize it.
May 29, 2008 3:12:48 AM

if this is true, why do I read posts about people with quad cores running games like crysis/supreme commander/FS X saying that they are getting usage from all 4 cores?

Not trying to start an argument, just looking for the reasons...
May 29, 2008 3:33:24 AM

shadowduck said:
Games don't even take advantage of dual core yet. Assassin's Creed is the first game to require a dual core (2008 release) and even it can run on a single core machine with some mods.

Games wont be using quad cores for a long time.


I would disagree with this statement. Games such as Supreme Commander and World in Conflict benefit greatly from quad core vs dual core. I'm willing to bet a good chunck of money that future games such as Empire: Total War, Spore, Far Cry 2, Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway, Starcraft 2, and many more will benefit from quad core in the near future. By this time next year, I think that a majority of new titles will take advantage of multiple cores.

From what I see in the CPU market right now, switching from a dual core to a quad core is not that big of a jump in cash; a Q6600 is only $220 anyway. If you want your rig to survive and thrive for a couple of years with minimal upgrading, I'd suggest building with a Q6600. That's what I'll be doing in a couple of weeks and my budget is $800 to $900.
May 29, 2008 4:00:52 AM

you can buy a E8400 for 199.00 oc it on a p35 MoBo to 4.0 with out a hick up and 8 GHZ and 6mb of cashe will handle games for years to come and out preforms the Q6600 right now in most Benchies then why not have the best now? <smiles>
May 29, 2008 4:07:33 AM

houstonserenity said:
you can buy a E8400 for 199.00 oc it on a p35 MoBo to 4.0 with out a hick up and 8 GHZ and 6mb of cashe will handle games for years to come and out preforms the Q6600 right now in most Benchies then why not have the best now? <smiles>

Yeah, that's true, but I still haven't decided yet.
May 29, 2008 4:18:43 AM

when do you need this Rig built? Nalem is coming out at the end of the year
so that should make some good buys for the then out dated 775 platform

In my opinion the most performance comes from the graphics card then CPU and last memory if you are good at over clocking a Q6600
And P38 is the way to go .If your like me oc some but don’t take it to the extreme then a E8400 P35 and a 9800gtx will serve you much better
May 29, 2008 4:44:10 AM

houstonserenity said:
when do you need this Rig built? Nalem is coming out at the end of the year
so that should make some good buys for the then out dated 775 platform

In my opinion the most performance comes from the graphics card then CPU and last memory if you are good at over clocking a Q6600
And P38 is the way to go .If your like me oc some but don’t take it to the extreme then a E8400 P35 and a 9800gtx will serve you much better

Well, this will be my very first build and also my first overclock so I'm not going to go excessive on the OCing and I'm looking to have it built within the next month but hopefully sooner.
May 29, 2008 5:00:33 AM

I have to disagree with the Antec 900 Case after building some new systems...the twelve-hundred is much better and in my opinion a tower is always a better investment.

Better cooling, more room, better cable management, and your fans can actually move the air around rather than cool lots of cables!

Antec 1200 or the P190 if you have the cash!
May 29, 2008 5:33:41 AM

houstonserenity said:
you can buy a E8400 for 199.00 oc it on a p35 MoBo to 4.0 with out a hick up and 8 GHZ and 6mb of cashe will handle games for years to come and out preforms the Q6600 right now in most Benchies then why not have the best now? <smiles>

>_<

So using that logic, a Q6600 at stock is better than an E8400 OCed to 4ghz, because OMG 2.4ghz x 4 cores = 9.6ghz while an E8400 @ 4ghz x2 = 8ghz??

I thought most people understood that this is not the case...
D'oh!
May 29, 2008 2:03:23 PM

wormy said:
Get a P35 mobo...unless there is just a reason you ahve to have an X38


GIGABYTE GA-EP35-DS3R LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Dynamic Energy Saver Ultra Durable II Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$119.99

ASRock 4Core1600P35-WiFi+ LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$129.99

This board comes with wi-fi, firewire, DDR2/DDR3, 2 PCI-E slots (16x,4x)

What's the difference between the PCI-E 2.0 and the normal PCI-E? And is built in WiFi good enough?
May 29, 2008 9:44:26 PM

bornking said:
I have to disagree with the Antec 900 Case after building some new systems...the twelve-hundred is much better and in my opinion a tower is always a better investment.

Better cooling, more room, better cable management, and your fans can actually move the air around rather than cool lots of cables!

Antec 1200 or the P190 if you have the cash!

What about this case? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
May 30, 2008 1:10:29 AM

Bump, still need these questions answered please :) 
May 30, 2008 1:11:35 AM

Why do you have to use 32bit?
May 30, 2008 1:59:20 AM

Oh Snap said:
Why do you have to use 32bit?

Well, I don't HAVE to but I read that there were still problems with 64bit Vista, if that's not true then I guess I could use it.
May 30, 2008 2:11:54 PM

Ok, so I have decided that I don't want to OC the CPU until my system gets older, so, will the stock CPU fan be sufficient or should i still buy the separate heatsink if I'm not going to overclock?
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