Some Real results of GTX280 testing.

lx_flier

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um no, 2x 9800GTX beat a single 9800gx2 which beats a gtx280, and reviews have shown that3x 9800gtx beat or are on par with 2x9800gx2's... I've been shopping around and managed to snag me a 9800gtx for $200. As for the heat issue they run cooler then 8800GTX's which i previously had so i see no problem.
 

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Toms review also showed that those GTX280's produce an unbearable amount of noise on load ~66.5 dba almost 10 more dba then a 9800 (13 at idle). At load both the 9800 and the 280 run at the same temperature. Though when idle the 280 runs much cooler due to the ridiculously louder fan and advanced power management.
 

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Yea I remember when the 9800GTX came out, the thing was beastly loud! Now the GTX280 drowns the 9800GTX noise out, LOL!
 

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I ordered a GTX 280 yesterday, is it really THAT loud?! My case has a fan fight where the graphics card goes so I might be able to turn the fan down on the GTX if my case gets good enough airflow, thats not a stupid idea is it?
 

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na im sure if u got good air flow u wont need to turn it up like me. i have the side pannel 4 fans. so yea. im sure ill hit 30% idle and about 50% full load.
 

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This is what I call the "Nvidiot" effect. It's marketing the high end that most people can't afford to sell the low end that doesn't perform better than the competition and lacks full support for Direct X.

Well, marketing works. Intel relied upon marketing during the Netburst days (but AMD's marketing can't get the Phenom out of it's rut). Nvidia has always relied upon marketing plus strong arm tactics like the Assassin's Creed patch ("The Way It's Meant to Be Payed"), and dodgy drivers like the Crysis demo water or the blurriness of the 7000 series.

Is the GTX280 in quad better than 2 3870x2's in CrossfireX? Probably (don't know what you mean by quad 2900 gx2's). Is it better than the 9800gx2 in SLI? Maybe. Overall, the results show that the GTX280 is a bad deal. It's not much better than Nvidia's recent last generation and it's horribly overpriced.

If you're in the category of someone who can afford 4 GTX 280's then go for it, but if you're not in that price range of lucky gamers, don't decide on ditching an 8800gts 512, a pair of 8800gt in SLI, a 9800gx2 or even a 3870x2 just for one or two of these. Just not worth it.

The GTX280 is as much of a refresh as the 4xxx series, leaving out Folding @ Home stuff. Used to hear Nvidia fans say that AVIVO or image quality didn't matter all that much, it's about game and Nvidia delivers the framerates. Now, we see an overpriced high end Nvidia card that relies upon something other than gaming to sell, because it loses to the last gen Nvidia dual GPU card and the last gen ATI dual GPU card is often in third place right behind the costly GTX280.

Get the GTX260 instead, if you like Nvidia, or the 4870 if you don't. We'll see if the later versions of the GTX280 bring yields that make a difference after a die shrink. I'll be interested in seeing how the 4870x2 performs, as that's in my price range later in the year.

If I hear that Nvidia tells people that drivers will improve GTX280 performance, or that the later die shrink of the GTX280 will change things, then I'll really LOL. It will be so much like what we've heard from ATI regarding improved Radeon performance or AMD regarding Phenom.

 

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I put a 9800GTX in my wife's system I built from the ground up last week. I set the fanspeed to 75% with riva and its not really that loud, I was expecting louder. It also runs cooler idle than my 8800GT with a DuoOrb on it, her 9800GTX idles at around 38-41c, but hits 60c in AoC while my 8800GT never tops 52c. But then again the 9800 is stronger than the GT, barely.
 

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Okay, I thought that the CPU did Folding @ Home on earlier generations. My mistake. I do think that the GTX260 is the better choice in the new Nvidia generation, and that anyone with a 9800gx2 or 3870x2 doesn't need to upgrade unless their favored game doesn't support SLI or Crossfire.

Overall, the GTX280 is looking to be as disappointing as the 2900XT. People should wait for the die shrink, otherwise they're buying into the marketing.
 

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Right now you need to edit an INF file to get the CUDA drivers to work with pre-GTX2x0 cards, but they do work. Once Nvidia releases a driver that natively installs for all cards things will be alot smoother running. The same thing happened with the 9x00 cards when they were released so give it a few weeks and universal drivers should start showing up.
 

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I was expecting better numbers from the GTX 280, its not new architecture. Just more shaders and ROPs with more transistors, I am waiting for the card that at the very least doubles the 8800 GTX 768MB card.