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Hey all,
   I am building a comp from scratch and this is what I think I am down to.  Which would you choose?
 
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80570E8400 - Retail
- $189.99      http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115037
 
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AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ Windsor 3.0GHz Socket AM2 125W Dual-Core Processor Model ADX6000CZBOX - Retail - $113.99            http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103773
 
 
Also, what mobo would you go with?  I am torn with the AMD one because I don't know if I should get a AM2/AM2+ mobo for the sake of possibly upgrading.  And I have never dealt with Intel before so Im clueless there.  
 
Thanks!

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The Intel build will blow the AMD out of the water, especially if you overclock.  For office applications, however, it really won't matter much.  What are your intended purposes for this build?


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I would say mild gaming since Im hoping to start playing counterstrike again along with a few other games (starcraft 2 when it comes out)
 
Also, I do a lot of DVD Burning and ripping for my Zune.  
 
Thanks for your input jtt

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Probably want the Intel one then.  Though if your gaming is only going to be mild, then perhaps a slower, cheaper model Wolfdale is in order.  Besides, with the money you save on a slower Wolfdale, you can buy a better HSF and then overclock it like hell, getting some real value for your money.
 
I'm thinking an E8200 is in order.  Maybe an E7200, but I think people have problems OC'ing those very far.

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I think you will be happier with Intel.  Although you say "mild" gaming, it is really hard to argue with the bang for the buck you get with an HD4850.  Unless your budget is really limited, that's the one to get.
I don't think you have any reason to get anything fancier than a P35 board.
A quality PSU in the 500W-550W range should be sufficient.  Although getting dated, you might start with the list at http://www.tomswiki.com/page/Tiere [...] ngs?t=anon and choose a model from tier-3 or better.


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You don't seem to be a power user so both CPUs will more than suffice, obviously the E8400 is the faster chip, and runs much cooler. If you can afford it then why not, though the X2 6000+ is not a bad chip either, especially at that price.

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Yea the 8400 is the much faster chip. Both are good, but I would go with the 8400.
 
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Unless you're tight on money, get the E8400

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Money really isn't an issue, I just want a solid computer that I know will be modern for a while.  
 
 
Can anyone recommend a good mobo?  My friend recommended the Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L.  But keep in mind I don't mind spending the cash to make a solid computer.  
 
Thank you all very much for your help.

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Good solid reliable choice for the mobo.

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AMD Budget Gaming Rig
 
Total w/shipping:  $494  ($434 after rebates)
 
AMD Athlon 64 X2 5400+ Brisbane 2.8GHz 65W:  $87
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103235
 
MSI K9A2 CF-F V2 AM2+/AM2 AMD 790X ATX:  $104
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MSI R4850-T2D512 Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3:  $198 ($168 AR)
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Antec earthwatts EA430 430W Power Supply:  $60 ($30 AR)
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G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800:  $45
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Intel Budget Gaming Rig
 
Total w/shipping:  $500  ($440 after rebates)
 
Intel E2200 2.2GHz 1MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W:  $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819116063
 
GIGABYTE GA-EP45-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P45:  $117
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MSI R4850-T2D512 Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3:  $198 ($168 AR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814127359
 
Antec earthwatts EA430 430W Power Supply:  $60 ($30 AR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817371006
 
G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800:  $45
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231098
 
 
When you up the X2 5400+ to 3.1-3.2GHz and the e2200 to 2.7-2.8GHz (with stock cooling and maybe a slight bump in voltage)  you will have 2 'snappy' systems with a video card that's smokin'
 
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I don't think the OP is on a 'budget' though, at least not a tight one.  
 

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Money really isn't an issue, I just want a solid computer that I know will be modern for a while.


 
X2s and E21x0s are nice cheap chips but don't perform anywhere near Wolfdales.  
 
If money is no issue I don't see why he should be aiming for anything less than an E8400.  

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ok so I think I am going to go with the Wolfdale and based on what everyone said, the Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L motherboard, right?
 
Can anyone make recommendations on a video card?
 
Thanks again for the help guys!

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EVGA 512-P3-N801-AR GeForce 8800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card -Retail
 
1x Winner of Customer Choice Award - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards
 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130318
 
$159.99
Save $10.00 With Promo Code EMCAHBACE
Your Price: $149.99
 
$129.99 After $20.00 Mail-In Rebate
 
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or a HD4850
 
or  
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XFX GeForce 9800 GTX Video Card - FREE Company of Heroes PC Game, 512MB DDR3, PCI Express 2.0, SLI Ready, (Dual Link) Dual DVI, HDTV, HDMI Support, Dual VGA Support
 
$199

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jamesl wrote :

EVGA 512-P3-N801-AR GeForce 8800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card -Retail
 
1x Winner of Customer Choice Award - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards
 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130318
 
$159.99
Save $10.00 With Promo Code EMCAHBACE
Your Price: $149.99
 
$129.99 After $20.00 Mail-In Rebate
 
Free 3 Business Day Shipping
 
or a HD4850
 
or  
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] w%20PzEEwy
 
XFX GeForce 9800 GTX Video Card - FREE Company of Heroes PC Game, 512MB DDR3, PCI Express 2.0, SLI Ready, (Dual Link) Dual DVI, HDTV, HDMI Support, Dual VGA Support
 
$199


for the love of god dont buy an nvidia card if you buy that p35 board, or any intel chipset for that matter. buy the radeon hd4850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814161235 for $199 that blows any 8800 or 9800 out of the water (except mabey 8800GTX/ultra) and if you need more preformance later just buy another one for crossfire. CF also scales much better than SLI so its a win win with that p35 board

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the 4850 does not blow the 9800 gtx out of the water, and considering they're the same price, its a fair alternative
 
http://www.anandtech.com/video/sho [...] =3341&p=19
 
http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] 64-13.html
 
http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] 964-9.html
 
and considering the 8800 GT is 70 dollars cheaper, its fine if you're not wanting to spend a lot of money

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If you plan to crossfire, don't get the p35 or p45 mobo, get the x38 or x48 instead.

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jamesl wrote :

the 4850 does not blow the 9800 gtx out of the water, and considering they're the same price, its a fair alternative
 
http://www.anandtech.com/video/sho [...] =3341&p=19
 
http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] 64-13.html
 
http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] 964-9.html
 
and considering the 8800 GT is 70 dollars cheaper, its fine if you're not wanting to spend a lot of money


 
True but,
 
9800 GTX = dual slot
 
HD 4850 = single slot
 
9800 GTX = more power connectors
 
HD 4850 = less power connectors
 
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sorry for sounding like an idiot, but what in god's name is crossfire?
 
now I am really confused....what mobo should I go with?
 
Im defintely going to go with the e8400 wolfdale....
 
 
I still need to decide on mobo, video card, heatsink, hard drive, powersupply and soundcard (do I need a soundcard? since I dont plan to set up surround sound)
 
Im just going to get 4gb of ram from crucial
 
Thank you all very much for your replies!

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