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9800 gtx+.......a new card or a driver update?

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June 19, 2008 7:57:46 AM

That's what I was wondering too.

Maybe it's both.
June 19, 2008 9:49:52 AM

will the new driver be for all g92 cards?
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June 19, 2008 10:48:52 AM

it's a new acard and a new drivers fudzilla says both
June 19, 2008 10:54:53 AM

Yeah.... that's cool.

At least it's really sleek and shiny. :D 

So an unrelated question... with two 6 pin pci-e connectors.... would it be bad to use a converter from two molex connectors?

I know it's probably fine, but do the two molex connectors deliver the same amount of power?
June 19, 2008 12:13:04 PM

i had that question as well actually
June 19, 2008 4:54:09 PM

Well.. http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Nvidia-9800GTX-GeForce...

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All signs are pointing towards a price war in the mainstream segment around $200 between AMD/ATI and Nvidia. Following previous information that the Radeon HD 4850 will debut in the $200 - $230 price segment later this month, Nvidia today announced that it is dropping the recommended price for its 9800 GTXhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gore-Tex design to $199 and introduce a new 9800 GTX+ version with 512 MB of GDDR3 memory, also based on the G92 core, for $229.

The new GPU comes with a core clock of 1836 MHz and a memory clock of 738 MHz. Nvidia highlighted that physics support (based on Ageia’s original PhysX engine that has been integrated into CUDAhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CUDA ) is supported by both the 9800 GTX and GTX+ through the driver version 177.39. With PhysX enabled, Nvidia claims that the physics simulation in the 3D Mark Vantage benchmark gains about 7.5x in performance and provides more than six times the performance of AMD’s Radeon 4850.


So is it just an overclocked 9800GTX? Since the current GTX will be able to do what the GTX+ does.. I don't get it..
June 19, 2008 5:02:48 PM

Its another G92 revision, imagine that.
June 19, 2008 5:27:08 PM

From http://www.hothardware.com/News/ATI_Radeon_HD_4850_RV77...

What does the "+" designate you ask? Well, this card is based on a 55nm version of the G92 - down from 65nm on previous products. The GeForce 9800 GTX+ will arrive with an MSRP of $229, which is much lower than what current GeForce 9800 GTX cards are selling for, so expect the GTX+ to push the current GTX down into the sub-$200 price bracket in the coming weeks (think mid-July).

The GeForce 9800 GTX+ offers a GPU clock speed of 738MHz, a shader clock of 1836MHz, and 512MB of GDDR3 Memory clocked at 1GHz (2GHz DDR). Like the current 9800 GTX, the new card will support 2- and 3-Way SLI configurations. Unfortunately, we do not have a driver to test the GTX+ just yet, but we will soon, so stay tuned. For now, here's how the Radeon HD 4850 stacks up to a handful of other cards in a few games and benchmarks...
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June 19, 2008 5:35:31 PM

it most likely a driver for all g92 cards because its the same core.
And as for the 9800gtx+ die shrink with higher clocks so no point in upgrading from a 9800gtx. i really like the low price.
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June 19, 2008 5:45:20 PM

Yeah, die-shrink and new driver !!!

Milk da cow to da bones !!!! Same flavor, different box !!!


Ps: I know AMD has been doing it to the K8 Core. But hey. I wanna be a troll now and then.
June 19, 2008 6:46:29 PM

Yep 9800GTX+ is 55nm version... It's sheaper to produce, much faster than 4850... a little bit more expensive... what can we say... Nvidia make it again. They make a new version that really can fight ATI's 4000 series card and can be even faster or at least even with 4870... This time they are really close each others. We will see some price competition for real!
June 19, 2008 9:27:41 PM

Its not "much faster" than the 4850. The die shrik will net 1% better performance, if that.
June 19, 2008 9:52:25 PM

hannibal said:
Yep 9800GTX+ is 55nm version... It's sheaper to produce, much faster than 4850... a little bit more expensive... what can we say... Nvidia make it again. They make a new version that really can fight ATI's 4000 series card and can be even faster or at least even with 4870... This time they are really close each others. We will see some price competition for real!


This post just reaks of fanboyism. You state that the 980GTX+ is much faster than the 4850 even though nobody has benchmarked it since the drivers aren't working yet. I would point out that the 4850 at stock speeds has been faring rather well against overclocked 9800GTX's in some of the reviews posted today.

Sure, the GTX+ may end up being a little faster than a stock 4850, but who's to say that one of the ATI manufacturers won't release an OC'd 4850?
June 19, 2008 10:14:15 PM

Just_An_Engineer said:
This post just reaks of fanboyism. You state that the 980GTX+ is much faster than the 4850 even though nobody has benchmarked it since the drivers aren't working yet. I would point out that the 4850 at stock speeds has been faring rather well against overclocked 9800GTX's in some of the reviews posted today.

Sure, the GTX+ may end up being a little faster than a stock 4850, but who's to say that one of the ATI manufacturers won't release an OC'd 4850?



They already are it's going to be the 4850xt and it comes with ddr5 memory soo this die shrink is not going to be much.
June 22, 2008 11:28:33 AM

Just_An_Engineer said:
Sure, the GTX+ may end up being a little faster than a stock 4850, but who's to say that one of the ATI manufacturers won't release an OC'd 4850?


It depend on the test... But at this moment 4850 seems to be at the level with 9800GTX, and because 9800GTX+ is faster it is somewhat faster than 4850. The 4850 may still be faster when usin AA and at higher resolutions than the new Nvidia version.

Yep oc 4850 will be faster again, so will be oc 9800GTX+ faster than normal 9800GTX+ when they most definitely will be released, no doupt in there. Now it all depends on the prize and I trust that ATI can be more competative in the prize war at this moment.

Good middle range cards from both companies at very good prize!
June 22, 2008 2:39:01 PM

xx12amanxx said:
They already are it's going to be the 4850xt and it comes with ddr5 memory soo this die shrink is not going to be much.


Yeah because that is the 4870 then

RV770 PRO = 4850
RV770 XT = 4870
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