First time builder needs adivce...

[fatimalee]

Hi folks,

i'm a first time builder and need some advice to build a solid system
base on a E8400(190$) or a Q9300(270$)/Q9450(330$).

For: webdesign, poker , gaming (crysis, fsx), a little bit of video editing, internet surfing

I have these motherboards in my head:
a.) Asus P5K EPU - FSB 1333 - DDR2 1066 - arround 95$
b.) Gigastyle GA P35 S3G - FSB 1333 - DDR2 1066 - arround 85$
c.) ECS P35T-A - FSB 1333 - DDR2 - arround 90$
which boards fits me best for E8400; and which is best for Q9; rememer i'm a 1st time builder and wants it a bit easy :lol:

Video Card:
a.) Raedon HD4850 - from Gigabyte or Sapphire for arround 190$ - dont want to do CF at the moment - dont know if i want later

Can you adivse me with
a.) Memory ... 2/4GB
b.) Power
c.) Cooling
d.) Case ... should be also something for the eye...looking for a price arround $60-100 incl. shipping

Would be GREAT ...........

THANKS so much ..........

if i´m totaly wrong with the motherboards (are they ok with the Q9xxx ?) please let me know

I use at the moment a Notebook Asus with a D T2300 and a ATI X1600

I never OCed before

 

[cow_moo]

go with e8400 good for gaming
asus p5k EPU because its an asus
memory 4gb go with OCZ
power:antec or thermaltake preferably thermaltake

 

[jimmysmitty]

Mobo - Asus P5K, and if you can get the P5K-E as its a beter quality build.

Memory - 2GB if you are going with Windows XP/Vista 32 4GB if you are going with XP/ Vista 64Bit (I would suggest Corsair RAM as well as the memory is very reliable and fast)

PSU - Thermaltake has great ones along with Corsair and I would suggest 600w+

Cooling - The ThermalRight 120 is a fave of most.

Case - I hear greta things about Antec and this one is on sale for $80 bucks.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129041

CPU- well if you are only going to do light video editing then a E8400 is your best bet. Qauds are only good for video editing and maybe future gaming when those games become more multi threaded.

All the mobos you listed have a P35 which should have support for the Q9XXX chips. I know for sure that the P5K series does as I have a P5K-E that supports all of the 45nm chips thus far.

Hope this helps.

 

[cow_moo]

corsair makes good PSU's and RAM

 

[shadowthor]

The mobos listed probably require a bios update for the 45nm chips to work.

 

[fatimalee]

Thanks for the reply's.

Are there other MoBos you suggest that dont need a bios update for the 45nm intels to get them to run?
Is the ECS board the slowest, because it only has the DDR2 800 ?
The Video Card HD4950 is also ok for games like crysis, right?

@jimmysmitty: thanks for the case-link; it's my favorite non "future" case. i want to have one (may be 2) lights in the case, may be the fan.

thanks

 

[jimmysmitty]

The GPU is a great choice. The ECS is the worst one. Asus is probably one of the best, meaning stable and good for everything, and Gigabyte is up there with them.

Depending on your luck though you might get a newer BIOS version. As they make them and newer BIOS come out they start putting the better ones on them stock. Like my P5K-E had the BIOS support for the Q6600 G0 after the Q6600 G0 came out just about 2 weeks before it so its more than likely the BIOS will have support for the 45nm ones.

If you want guarnteed out of the box support then a X38 chipset or a P45 chipset will. And the P45 chipset is the same as the P35 but should run cooler and more stable with BIOS updates.

 

[kad]

1- ASUS P5Q Deluxe LGA 775 Intel P45 Intel Motherboard is the king now
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131297
2- Mushkin 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) is amazing
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146726
And even this one is better for 20$ more
Mushkin 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146785
3- E8400
4- TRUE heatsink+Scythe S-Flex SFF21F+OCZ Freeze Extreme

 

[ainarssems]

Q9450
GA -P35-DS3P
HD 4850
4GB
VX 550

 

[fatimalee]

i do like the RAM
Mushkin 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500)

the P5Q board is a little tooo much for me...dont need the king...prince is good as well

i dont want to start another debate here but.... how is
GeForce 9800GTX (210$) vs HD4850 (190$)

thanks

 

[texazon]

q6600

 

[kad]

Hd 4850 wins vs 9800GTX
And one tyhing more
My advice always go for the best mobo
You can not upgrade a mobo
You have to wait 3-4 years till you build new rig

The crown prince is
ASUS P5Q Pro LGA 775 Intel P45 150$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131299

The prince is
ASUS P5Q LGA 775 Intel P45 130 $
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131295

Good luck
Hope the prince will be on a white horse

 

[fatimalee]

@kad thanks
The Crown Prince is only 10 bucks more because of free shipping...

OK so we are at:
Q9450 $330 or E8400 $190
Asus Crown Prince P5Q Pro $150
Mushkin 4GB DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) $130
Sapphire HD4850 $190
+HD
+DVD
+Case
+Power
+Cooler ... is the Artic 7Pro ok for that Board (does it fit?)
+Wlan

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[bc4]

FSX is multi threaded and will benefit from a quad, so will video editing. If gaming is the "main" purpose you could go with the 8400 and the previously mentioned apps will survive but i'd go with a quad

 

[The_Blood_Raven]

Get the E8400 or the Q9450 depending on what you want to spend. Don't get Corsair RAM, they have problems and is overpriced. For power, go with the PC Power and Cooling 610w and get the Xigmatek HDT-s1283. Put all that in a Cooler Master 690 and you are good to go.

 

[kad]

So far you made good choices
Now we come to the rest

1- HDD: Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB 90$ is amazing
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136218
2- PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply 90$ is a very good one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005
3- Cooler: Artic 7Pro seems OK although XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler now is very famous
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233003
4- DVD : Samsung is good but go for SATA
5- Case: It's amatter of taste and budget
You can not be mistaken with Antec900 with 3 120 fans @ 80$ if you like it
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021&Tpk=antec%2b900
Cooler Master 690 is also good with 3 120 fans
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119137
Though I like LianLi aluminium cases
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112156
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112040
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112022
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112116
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112158
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112069

And read my PM

 

[jimmysmitty]

Get the E8400 or the Q9450 depending on what you want to spend. Don't get Corsair RAM, they have problems and is overpriced. For power, go with the PC Power and Cooling 610w and get the Xigmatek HDT-s1283. Put all that in a Cooler Master 690 and you are good to go.

Hmm... Tell that to my 2GB of DDR400 Corsair XMS thats 5 years old (6 in october of this year) in my old system thats still kicking strong. That and the 4GB of Corsair XMS2 DDR2 1066 I have running at 1333 in a 1:1 and at DDR2 800 timings of 4-4-4-12.

I still suggest Corsair over anything as everytime I have gotten it, not only for myself but for my fiance and grandparenst PCs, it has performed the best and never given me a problem or bad stick.

 

[radium69]

Hmm... Tell that to my 2GB of DDR400 Corsair XMS thats 5 years old (6 in october of this year) in my old system thats still kicking strong. That and the 4GB of Corsair XMS2 DDR2 1066 I have running at 1333 in a 1:1 and at DDR2 800 timings of 4-4-4-12.

I still suggest Corsair over anything as everytime I have gotten it, not only for myself but for my fiance and grandparenst PCs, it has performed the best and never given me a problem or bad stick.

Ditto,
Just look for good deals on corsair memory, I have 2x 1GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800mhz @ 854mhz 4-4-4-12. They are very stable and it's a stylish design.

Geil has some very nice memory as well, and it isn't expensive. DDR2 800 is very affordable nowadays

 

[kad]

Nobody is against Corsair
But nowadays nobody can deny G.Skill, Muskin, OCZ are high end brands
I have also Kingston memories DDR1 working since 6 years

 

[jimmysmitty]

I'm agree that there are other good brands but Corsair has always been like the Cadilac of memory. A bit more expensive but well worth the extra coin. And as of yet I have never had one stick go bad on me (in 10 years worth of using them) so I always suggest them so people can have just as good an esperience.

 

[hobbers]

Micro Center has the E8400 for $159.99 before shipping/tax. Less shipping if you have a local Micro Center.

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0281097

 

[thepowerofdonuts]

Listen to kad. I like the Cooler Master 690 and the Xigmatec S1283. About the optical drive though, I'd go with one of the LG burners with Lightscribe. They even have one that burns dual layer Blu-ray and plays HD-DVD AND has Lightscribe.

 

[fatimalee]

After i have read so much in forums about OC'ing, the
Q6600 is back in my head because of the price.

 

[hayder_master]

asus p5k is good

 

[fatimalee]

Ok, here is a near complete System.
THE PRINCE SYSTEM (maybe the Alien Prince, depends on the case)
E8400 + Asus P5Q Pro.............$305
XIGMATEK HDT S1293.............$37 (before $10 mail in)
Cosair SMPSU-650TX.............$109(b $20 mi)
WD Caviar SE16 640GB/SATA/16MB/7200.............$90
Samsung 22xDVD LS SH223F/SATA.............$28
MSI HD4850.............$190 (b $30 mi)
Mushkin 2x2GB 1066.............$125 (b $25 mi)

$884.......(before $85 mi) + case

Suggetions would be nice...

Are these Case/PSU Deals fit to my configuration:...i would not order Cosair SMPSU-650TX
a.)
RAIDMAX AZTEC ATX-619WB530P Black / Silver ATX Mid Tower Foldout MB Case With 530W Modular LED Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156219
watch the foldout

b.)
RAIDMAX Sagitta ATX-921WBP Black/Silver SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower 450watt PRESCOTT/ SATA Ready Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156180

c.)
APEVIA X-Navigator ATXA9NW-AL/500 Black/ Silver Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 500W Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811144125