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June 1, 2008 2:39:09 PM

Hello,

I finally decided to build my first PC since the Dell 4600 is getting old. And this seems like the best place to get an expert opinion on the parts.

I plan to use this for gaming, maybe video editing, I might overclock, but not right away. If I do do it right away, it will be a very minor overclock, so the stock cooler should hold (I think). In any case, here is the list

SAMSUNG 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model SH-S203N - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
might get 2 of those

EVGA 512-P3-N871-AR GeForce 9800 GTX(G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
This seems to be a good card, but from reading the forums here, 8800gts might be good as well, so I am not sure.

CORSAIR CMPSU-550VX 550W ATX12V V2.2 Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Is this going to be enough?

OCZ Reaper HPC 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ2RPR10664GK - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS P5E LGA 775 Intel X38 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I am not too sure of this board, I believe its crossfire board, but then I do not know if SLI gives me that good of an advantage so for one card it should be good. I think it also supports the memory I selected. In any case I open to suggestions.

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 Yorkfield 2.5GHz LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80580Q9300 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I have a case at home, its not the top of the line I think it should do. Just need to buy few fans for it.

This is it pretty much it and I am open to suggestions, so if you think its necessary, tear it apart.

P.S. anyone can recommend a good monitor (20-22 inch range or so).

Thank you.

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June 1, 2008 2:53:59 PM

Yeah 8800 GTS 512 is just as good. I would wait a few days to see the benchmark results for the new ATIs and then decide on a gpu.
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June 1, 2008 6:17:57 PM

Perhaps I will go with the 8800gts, it will save me few bucks. I was planing on ordering today or tommorow since I wanted the parts by next weekend, but newegg is good with shipping, so I can wait.

Hmm, I haven't really looked at Abit, might consider it.

Thanks for the quick reply evll_panda and chuckm.
June 2, 2008 1:03:48 PM

Your system will do just fine.

Not interested on buying good cpu-fan? sure haven't forgotten bout this?

19'' Monitor is enough. If you wanna 22'' then go for 2 GPU configuration.
BTW monitors from Samsung and LG are good with decent price.
June 2, 2008 1:45:47 PM

I'd go with the 8800GTS instead of the 9800GTX. All the other choices look very solid.

Just FYI - OEM DVD burners don't come with any burner/dvd software. If you need the sw go for the retail version instead.

Do you have a HDD?
June 2, 2008 5:35:43 PM

Thanks for the comments guanyu2103 79 and uguv.
I think I will stick with a stock cpu cooler for now, I am not planing on doing any major overclocking now, so I think the stock one should do. If not I could always order one.
As for the monitor, I didn't know you needed a 2 GPU set up for the 22".

8800GTS seems like a better buy. Thanks for the heads up on the OEM DVD burners, but I know that, my worry was the cables though not the software, but the motherboard comes with few so I think I will good.
And I should have probably mentioned that I have a 300GB HDD made by Seagate that I bought a while ago, I think I will use that for now.
June 2, 2008 5:42:07 PM

^ No you don't need 2 GPUs for a 22" monitor.....one 8800GTS will serve you well..... though don't expect to play Crysis at max settings at 60fps.....

Anyhow you ought to wait for the new Radeon cards instead of rushing into buying any GPU
June 2, 2008 10:44:50 PM

Ye, I think I will need a setup 4 times than what I am planing on getting to play Crysis at max settings.

I know the new cards are coming out, but I am not sure when, I don't want to wait for long, my current PC is about 4 years old. I think I know how I can kill, put Crysis on it.

Anyone have any idea when the new cards come out, I really don't want to wait (I know its bad, but I can't help it)?
June 3, 2008 3:32:38 AM

i dont know about that, i can play crysis on high settings on a 24in with 8800gts
June 3, 2008 3:47:10 AM

Hmm, maybe there is hope for me then.
Which monitor do you have gators1223? If you don't mind sharing.
June 3, 2008 4:07:43 AM

westinghouse L2410NM love it very pretty and great picture, only problem is you need to turn it off when finished as a dvi/hdmi input it doesn't go to standby just a big blue screen
June 3, 2008 4:52:52 AM

Thanks, it doesn't seem to be that bad of a problem, plus I usually turn the monitor off when I'm done anyway. I'll look into it.
I wasn't able to find the exact monitor you were referring to gators1223, but I found this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


I have been also doing some thinking, since I am going with 8800GTS, maybe it makes sense to get this motherboard since I can just put another 8800GTS in there later on instead of buying a new card. (I might need a new PSU though)
EVGA 132-CK-NF78-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 780i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
June 3, 2008 7:17:08 AM

^...you will be ABLE to play Crysis pretty well on any 22"...but not at Ultra settings on a high res .... at 1280 or 1440 it plays smoothly with the GTS... if you go higher it stutters... even if you play it on a 24" and reduce the res you can play pretty smoothly.....but theres no fun in that

Regarding the new cards... they all release between June 15th to 18th... just a matter of a fortnight... you ought to wait till then since the wait would surely be worth it.

If you want to go multi GPU way go for X38 (Crossfire) rather than Nvidia boards. X38 performs great and is a heck of a lot cheaper than the nvidia boards. Also that two radeon 4870s would beat two GTX280s in price/performance ratio. (4870 = ~$320... GTX280 = ~$600.)
June 3, 2008 6:39:30 PM

Thanks for the advice, I should wait, but I don't know if I will be able to.

I will also decide whether to go with SLI or Crossfire when the new cards are out. But I think I should upgrade my PSU to something better. For example:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
June 3, 2008 7:35:21 PM

gleb said:
I will decide whether to go with SLI or Crossfire when the new cards are out.


Good idea.

Yeah that PSU is an excellent choice...though a tad overkill (650TX should be more than enough, unless you get quad GPU).
June 3, 2008 8:30:47 PM

mihirkula said:
Yeah that PSU is an excellent choice...though a tad overkill (650TX should be more than enough, unless you get quad GPU).


Thanks for the input, I thought it might be (I don't know much about PSUs). But I think I rather have more than less, if its more I just won't use the extra power, but it might come in handy when I decide to upgrade something later on. Who knows how much juice the graphics cards will need in a year or so.

chuckm said:
Same power supply a tad cheaper;
http://www.buy.com/prod/corsair-tx-750w-atx-12v-power-s...


Thanks for the link, hopefully the deal will last until the time I need to order.
June 3, 2008 9:11:51 PM

about that monitor, the one i got is a pva panel while that one is a tn panel, so it is faster but not quite tthe same color range , but i doubt you would notice that.
it seems the monitor i bough disappeared off the market a month or two after i bought it (January)
June 4, 2008 12:32:22 AM

Ye, that seems to be the case gators1223, looks like you bought it just in time. I haven't really heard much about Westinghouse monitors, so I am a bit skeptical of them. But the reviews for the monitor on newegg are good, so perhaps I wasn't looking in the right place.
June 4, 2008 7:43:24 AM

Just wanna add somethin' to mihirkula nd gators1223 :
Why do people tend to say, that it is not good to use a single GPU on a 22'' screen or above, is that they try to play games with maximum resolution that can be supported by the monitor. For example I use a 19'' monitor with max 1600x1050 resolution, I play games also with the mentioned resolution, and therfore the bigger monitor you have the more it will burden your GPU.
Reducing the resolution means reducing your fun factor but this will help to achieve better GPU performance.

to Gleb :
Don't trust what you read on online stores or what people had said! Prove it with your own eyes. Go somewhere (example : shopping center, etc.) and take a look at the one you are planing to buy than decide if you gonna buy it or not and then buy it with the best price on the internet.
Sometimes unfamous brands do have good quality and sometimes not.
Perhaps westinghouse is good, and perhaps not. So do a little exploring before you buy anything.
Cheap brands with good spesifications sometimes tends to be broken easily.
But keep in mind that all famous expensiv brands started also from cheap unfamous then after a while they are what they are now.
Just do as your heart tells you after you have seen the item yourself.
June 4, 2008 6:51:20 PM

Thanks for the info guanyu2103 79, I am planing on doing some research as well. But it is hard to look at a monitor at the store because a lot of times it is not configured properly and the picture looks awful, it might be the monitor or it might be a bad setup, so it is hard to say sometimes. But if I can find a store where the monitors are set up properly, I will be sure to take a look.
July 2, 2008 10:28:24 PM

*dusts of the thread*
I don't think it is necessary to start a new thread so I will just continue with this one.
I decided to wait for the new cards to surface and now that they have, I think I can start ordering.
Heres the revised list:

SAMSUNG 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model SH-S203N - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151154

Corsair TX 750W ATX 12V Power Supply (I am planing on going multi-gpu in the future)
http://www.buy.com/prod/corsair-tx-750w-atx-12v-power-supply/q/loc/101/206178325.html

OCZ Reaper HPC 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227289

ASUS P5E LGA 775 Intel X38 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail (I think this motherboard should be fine for my needs)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131219

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 Yorkfield 2.5GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115043

SAPPHIRE 100243L Radeon HD 4870 512MB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail (In the future I might add another one for crossfire)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102748

I already have a case and hard drive(s).

I'm open to suggestions.

Also, anyone have any experience with the monitors from Dell and/or HP. I'm considering possibly buying from then.

Thanks for the help.
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