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Good luck on your business endeavour. Right now is a good time to make money
on spyware removal and system cleanups. I have a 200 GB drive in a USB hard
drive enclosure. I create a full system backup of a clients' system with it
using Ghost 8. Then I can work on their system to my heart's content. Once I
get it cleaned I create a final image and burn to CD or DVD which I give to
the client. If I need to get them back to the clean date I can do that.
--
Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
"Rev" <revinfreddyfloyd@yahoo.com.(OrSomeThingLikeThat)> wrote in message
news:4CCB935F-8D32-4804-A709-627278C12959@microsoft.com...
> Now that's what I'm talkin' about!
> Thanks Harry for your time and consideration
> I will definately follow your instructions today. With respect to two of
> you
> comments. A. I won't have to wonder what I ever did without it. This
> little
> project is my third painful experience "without it" That helpless feeling
> lasts at least a couple months till new tools or successes provide the
> rebound... B. So far as charging a nominal fee, that is surely good
> advice. I
> bought MSDN Universal and I'm trying very hard to elevate to a higher
> plain
> of competence, so I can charge some real money... I ask for "whatever you
> can
> give me" or $50. I also provide a receipt which lists all of the things I
> did
> and the associated charges, and call it at limited time "Business Startup"
> offer. I think I can account this to marketing and right some of that time
> expense off as "Discounts." I'm not sure...
> Thanks again Harry! I'm gonna start working on this right now.
> --
> Everything in EXCESS!!! If you want to taste the flavor of LIFE, Take BIG
> Bytes. Moderation is for monks.
>
>
> "Harry Ohrn" wrote:
>
>> Here are some solutions that I use. (I've number them to keep them
>> separated
>> not order of preference)
>> 1) You can legally download full versions of the Service packs from
>> Microsoft and burn them to CD. It is totally acceptable to transfer these
>> to
>> other computers
>> SP1a click "Go" button here
>>
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/updates/sp1/network.mspx
>> SP2 click "Download" button here
>>
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=049c9dbe-3b8e-4f30-8245-9e368d3cdb5a&displaylang=en
>>
>> 2) Create a Bart's PE CD. This is a excellent tool as it is an operating
>> system that runs entirely off the CD and, if you install the correct
>> plug-ins, it gives you the ability to go online and download drivers and
>> find help information, etc or gain access to a network. My version of
>> Bart's
>> PE contains Nero, Ghost 8, Firefox, Stinger, Keyfinder-pe, IrfranView,
>> Ad-Aware, WinZip, as well as a number of other handy tools such as
>> password
>> crackers and file recovery tools. The learning curve isn't even that
>> steep
>> and once you have one of these you'll wonder what you did without it.
>> http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
>>
>> 3) While it is true that you cannot use your Product Key to install
>> Windows
>> on other computers you can still create a slipstream version of XP using
>> your disc providing that when you install it on another system you use
>> that
>> person's Product Key. However be aware that Product Keys are version
>> specific. XP Home keys won't work with XP Pro. Nor will XP Home or XP Pro
>> "Retail keys" work on XP Home or XP Pro "OEM" versions. Still if you have
>> friends who call on you often you can legally use their XP CD and a
>> Service
>> Pack to create a slipstream version for them to keep with their system in
>> the event you need to help them. Slipstream instructions found here
>>
http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/slipstream.htm
>>
>> 4) Create a CD with commonly used Anti-spyware apps. The essentials are
>> found here
http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm Just keep them up-to-date
>>
>> 5) If you are in the habit of helping friends and family start charging a
>> small fee. It doesn't have to be exorbitant. This encourages people to be
>> more responsible and helps you to offset the cost of travel and wear and
>> tear on your resources.
>> --
>>
>> Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User]
>> www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
>>
>>
>> "Rev" <revinfreddyfloyd@yahoo.com.(OrSomeThingLikeThat)> wrote in message
>> news:00833B06-2F7A-47D9-ACE2-FB393E4E165F@microsoft.com...
>> > This is a constant source of frustration for me, and I'm wondering
>> > (hoping)
>> > if someone has a suggestion that is straight forward that I can use. I
>> > continually find myself in this situation: I'm "the computer guy" to my
>> > friends and family, although, I'm just a lowly a Access Application
>> > Analyst
>> > with very little experience with Windows configuration... Until I got
>> > on
>> > Cox
>> > Highspeed internet, and descovered quickly that I don't know squat
>> > about
>> > my
>> > hardware and software environment and find my self increasingly baried
>> > in
>> > help files trying to figure things out. So I get the call from one of
>> > my
>> > friends who can't get on the internet to run their business or
>> > whatever,
>> > or
>> > they can't boot up. So I go there and find all kinds of problems... Way
>> > too
>> > much software, spyware infestation, viruses, myriad problems that I've
>> > spent
>> > countless days nights weekends endlessly searching for answers that
>> > never
>> > seem to come easy enough... So in these situations, when it't "THAT
>> > BAD" I
>> > suggest a clean install, as I've done this many times and it used to go
>> > smoothly, until XP and Automatic Updates. Now it seems every time I try
>> > to
>> > run the setup from the OEM disk or whatever they have, I end up in a
>> > loop
>> > of
>> > error messages asking for a disk the PC owner never had, because the
>> > file
>> > being looked for was installed by an update. "Fatal Error! Setup can
>> > not
>> > continue. Please insert the Window XP SP1 CD to coninue setup." but
>> > there
>> > is
>> > no service pack 1, the files may be on the disk, but I don't know
>> > where,
>> > and
>> > at this juncture, setup seems to have gone to the point of no return,
>> > as
>> > it
>> > just keeps looping back to the setup program and to the same error...
>> > The
>> > big
>> > problem, and excruciatingly time consuming, is that these users have
>> > one
>> > household PC, it isn't operational, and they are completly helpless...
>> > So
>> > I
>> > go home, get on the MS Sites and start trying to find help. I go to the
>> > manufacturers sites and try to find help. But it always expends massive
>> > amounts of time, as no one seems to have a Service Pack 1 (or whatever
>> > it
>> > is
>> > being asked for at the moment) and Microsoft tells me I have to go to
>> > the
>> > manufacturer for help. Isn't there a license friendly solution for me
>> > to
>> > help
>> > my friends (like I want to make a CD or two that contains the various
>> > Service
>> > Packs) but unless I am missinformed, I'm not allowed to do this because
>> > of
>> > license issues or complience validation or something... Sorry for being
>> > so
>> > wordy, but I'm going through this nightmare again, and I'm just kinda
>> > frustrated... don't mean to vent, I just keep thinking, Microsoft put
>> > the
>> > file on there, why can't I get the file I need from microsoft, so
>> > everyone
>> > can go about there business and be happy
>> > Much Thanks in advance
>> > --
>> > Everything in EXCESS!!! If you want to taste the flavor of LIFE, Take
>> > BIG
>> > Bytes. Moderation is for monks.
>> >
>> >
>> > "Malke" wrote:
>> >
>> >> ~ FreeSpirit ~ wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > "Harry Ohrn" <harry---@webtree.ca> wrote in message
>> >> > news:escInWroFHA.764@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> Create a slipstream CD using your Windows XP CD and the SP2
>> >> >> download.
>> >> >> It is
>> >> >> easy to do - see here
>> >> >>
http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/slipstream.htm
>> >> > ===================
>> >> > What about those of us who don't get the XP-CD when we buy our PCs?
>> >> > I
>> >> > have several CDs to reinstall WXP from HP.
>> >> >
>> >> > FS~
>> >>
>> >> It depends on what the OEM has given you. Check with HP's tech
>> >> support.
>> >> If you have only a restore image, you can't slipstream it. Sometimes
>> >> you can slipstream using the i386 folder on the hard drive if the OEM
>> >> set it up that way. Otherwise, you are SOL. You can check out the
>> >> links
>> >> that the following Google search produced for possibilities:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.google.com/search?q=slipstream+XP+with+OEM+restore+disk&btnG=Search&hl=en&lr=
>> >>
>> >> Malke
>> >> --
>> >> MS-MVP Windows User/Shell
>> >> Elephant Boy Computers
>> >> www.elephantboycomputers.com
>> >> "Don't Panic"
>> >>
>>
>>
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