What's up with Tom's?

Oh yeah, they're in Nvidia's pocket.

I love this, 2 days after the 4850 previews/reviews come out, Tom's hasn't had one and their front page has not 1, or 2 but 3! Nvidia articles on it

Money > Integrity

It must not be too important to them I guess

Just give em' a day or so. Toms might be putting together a more in depth 4850 review. Those that are out right now were rushed, since ATI dropped the NDA early.

Just because Toms is a little overly excited about CUDA, doesn't mean they're in Nvidia's pocket. It just might seem that way, since with ATI there is less to talk about without rushing a bad review (we already have plenty of those).

4850 IS out.

Anyway, I was wondering the same, but it could be that they're just waiting for the 4870 to do a review of both 4800 cards in one article.

Oh Oh Oh now i understand. hmmm i dont think toms like that.

Look, there were news items in the THG headlines about the 4850 a week or more before the 280GTX was out

Get over it, god the fanboyism is making my head hurt.

is it just me.....or does anyone out there think that the decal picture of the girl on the asus 4850 is hot?

lol

i meant...uhh...a hot card it is

Toms always seems a little slower than the other websites but their reviews tend to be so much better and in depth. Thats why I keep cuming back.

I don't think Tom's is being bias. They are probably also trying to review the 4850 and the 4870 at the same time. There are no reviews out of the 4870 that ive seen yet.

Hey guys, I'm not a fanboy at all. My current (old) card is Nvidia...I just want the best bang for the buck.

But you guys have to be kidding yourselves if you think it's not a coincidence that Tom's has 3 headlining Nvidia articles (one mentioning the 9800GTX+) as ATi's best card in 2 years debuts that's been on sale at Newegg since the reviews popped up on the web (and hardware sites don't buy their headlining review cards from vendors, they're given by to them by Nvidia/ATi).

i never found 3d girls appealing. i like the real thing.

I find tom's to be more than fair re the amd/ati situation(s). It's about accurate information (why we are here) and the previews have been clearly labelled as such.
Different technologies, different price ranges, interesting comparisons, great testing and benchmarks, insightful comments. It's all about accurate info so that you can move forward with your own interests.

BUT - I do share the feeling re comments about proofreading and typo-errors. These can be misleading and muddy the waters.

Tek is a huge arena - and it's all here. I have been trying to send my buddeez here for many moons. And there's others like Anand and 3dguru and even mobo.org, etc etc.

I think this preview stuff is ATI's way of preventing Nvidia from messing up the new-tek-release parade - which I question ethically - marketing is marketing, business is business - but when they resort to stomping on others, I look CLOSER at the others, and make my own decisions, based on tom's reports

I think it's all good.

toms has been going down hill lately...

every single article i've read lately has an error in it... EVERY SINGLE ARTICLE

I'm tired of their mistakes... i love toms but seriously... they don't even spell check... they spelled keynote as keynore.... like honestly... they are paid to make these mistakes... its ridiculous

I agree, Toms needs to spellcheck or at least read over it once.

NDA hasn't totally lifted.

Seeing all of these reference designs out I find it weird that nothing else is available...are they not allowed to sell non-reference cards as part of the pseudo NDA that sill exists?