Nvidia gets a big advantage in 3DMark Vantage because of PhysX on GPU

this is a really bad aticle and really bad title - people read this and believe it.


two 3870 x2's in a ddr3 3.6ghz quad system run 22-24k 3dmark06 - regardless the cost is only $600 or $700 for the 2 cards. 3 x GTX 280 cards cost all most 2 grand! Ok, that's $1900 or so!

Compare like price items - if anything the 3dmark scores are low for the cost of the cards and since its the latest greatest!

i have post this 2 days ago. have a look in this forum if you want to know whhat people think.

Author Thread : To those who think HD4850 will whoop ass hold it!
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in the review the 4850 is only able to match the 8800GTS but still behind 9800GTX. but in somewhere else we have seen much higher result. so think again! from what im seeing the review on the net is being hand picked so only the good ones will be shown where as the underperforming onese has been put away.

and the release of 9800GTX+ which will have higher clock then the one use in all the review will be either catch up with hd4850 or extend the lead depend on whether the reviews we are seeing is true. and it will be sold at the same price as the 9800GTX now and the 9800GTX will drop to $199

but no doubt that the price for the card you will get is brilliant.

also one more thing to consider. something that current AMD is not capable of no matter how to argue it.

Supposedly, the 4870x2 does not use bridge, shares ram, and will scale as a single gpu. If true, they're onto something here. Likely blow away comparable setup nvidia can offer.

The 4850, despite all its hype, didn't do all that well. It barely performs on level with g92 8800gts at stock ($160 after mir), runs hot, and does not oc well. When both oced to limits, it's below 8800gts.

Thats currently the limit on the CCC. Ati tool, riva arent set yet for ocing these cards, or at least in the usual manner

Because 3DMark is so important.

dragons, I think perhaps you have not correctly assimilated the data..

There was no performance gain in terms of physics (the opposite actually) from adding more 280 cards because physx doesnt scale up yet like sli.

So noone was comparing $1900 to $600. more like 600 to 600... and the 280 outpreforms a 2x3870 in all other respects by a huge marigin..


So the article is pretty good.

Noone is arguing that a 280 isn't a beast. it beats a 9800x2 in crysis by over 40%, which is ridiculous, but it just isn't good value.

The 4850 is indeed a bit of a turd that got overhyped by peoples expectations when in fact it'll be in the same neighborhood of the 9800+, except in physx supported applications where it won't compete..
It SLIs wonderfully though, but the real question is... why buy it?

the 8800 series has been out for what, 15 years already?

Nearly everyone who plays comp games already has a 8800 or better.. if you already got one you can simply buy another and sli them for miniscule costs and get performance matching a $600 280 card..

So since you most probably already have a great card that plays everything in existence currently and will soon be physx compatible, why bother buying anything from this new generation of cards?

I think I'll wait another half year for the downsizing of the 200 series chip and see how that works in terms of noise, power effeciency and so on.
I think that one will be the card I've been waiting for..

All those great physx titles on the market, bring on more boxes in the levels. I mean it is so much more popular than Havoc!

that's what I saw too. Even sometimes getting very close to 260gtx for half the price.

Dude physics is over-rated

who cares if its gonna cost a premium and not help gamers in FPS .

you included of course. Hey that was the same article.

huh?

what are you talking about?!?!that GTX280 territory!

you had to dig that one up dont you!

It didn't work out for the hd3000s.

Not really when you are about as clueless as you are I couldn't miss it.

HD3000 wasn't 512 bit either.

I meant hd2000s.

What is a 780g?

What's an igp?

What is this AMD you speak of?

I think you just make stuff up though.

there is a noob in the other thread digging up my "512bit HD4850" and start insulting me. LOL

oh come on marvelous go easy on me will you!?lol

IM THE NOOB MASTER!!!LOL FTW!!!

lol i think being a noob is good. thinking of opening a new account.

i thought its the other way round!