Will we see REAL reviews this week?

As much as I hate to say it, I think Nvidia will still hold crown for most powerful card.

But I'm hoping the ATI comes close for the 300$ that would make it the better buy

^ idk... I thought that as well... but now i'm thinking that the 4870x2 will really take off

either way i don't care... I just want the best performer... at a reasonable price that is... like the gtx 280 isn't worth its price right now... if it drops to 450 - 500 it would be great

well as long as it works...

multi gpu/cores are the way of the future... just like it was in the cpu industry

So your telling me the reviews im looking at of the 4850 are fakes?

Incomplete is more the word.

I thought it was too good to be true, but you cant know until you buy one yourself and test it out.

So basically, reviews that fits your opinions are real, and those that don't are not.

because the word spread so fast thats why they stop you from knowing what the card is truely capable of. hence will affect the sale = less money for them.'

because if you dont know you could go out and buy and card and try it out. by then they got your money already.

good point!

but what if you cant? there is constraints in a business. its not just i wanna build this today and i can build it. financial factor is the main constraint most of the time.especially AMD for the past.....year(S)?

yeah businesses can be "sympathetic" sometime!

when is the next HD4870 gonna be out btw?

They're waiting for the one where it outperforms 280gtx.

Be careful what you wish for....the 4870 may just surprise you! We already know what the 4850 can do in crossfire.

Im not doubting half the sites on that list. Others are. Ive seen enough of the 4850 to know how it performs, others arent so sure. Im looking forward to both the 4870 and the archetecture of the 4xxx series explained, reviewed and viewed in full.

I can almost feel the heat coming off that card.

Apparently the new hotfix by ATI boosts 3DMark scores slightly....hold onto your butts...

Look how the 4850 compares to the 280

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Things arent looking too good for ATI as far as performace goes, but as long as it is prices the 4870 < 299USD, then its all good.

They are previews, incomplete. Not that in depth, plus, the 4870 and the use of GDDR5 isnt in them. Its like the 8800GTS review without the GTX and no in depth review at that

yea, except almost none of these sites make mention of the 4850s fan and temperature issues in any great detail which is currently the biggest problem with the 4850, and it was the biggest problem with the 3800 series at launch as well

I would HOPE that when ATI does the REAL launch not the "beta launch" that they are running now that they will have real drivers that actually.. you know.. make the fans actually work the way they are supposed to so that the card isn't hot enough to cook steaks on?

Vr-zone was probably the only site that actually mentions these fan issues because they went to the trouble of buying FOUR 4850 gpus for a quad crossfire setup - and guess what? They couldn't run four gpus without artifacting/overheating/crashing and 3 gpus seems to not accelerate performance to any noticeable degree at all over 2.

Now, do you understand why none of these reviews mean a bloody thing until the real launch is live? Because as Jaydeejohn put it quite accurately these reviews are incomplete at best!

Yea, I saw that before too; AMD's shader AA is working out really well for them so far

LOL ok...... Lets see, ummmm try running no AA without drivers, or 16x AA, one thing I know, If I can run it, Im going to. If youre that bored, go fishing or something. Maybe you arent excited about it, but I am, as are others.

One thing I must point out is that the 4850 outperform the Ultra in most cases, which is mighty impressive, considering it was once worth at 800+USD. A mainstream beating the last gen highend is quite impressive. It hasnt been done since....well..at launch price of 200USD...has it ever been done??The GTS 320 was worth 300+USD. That is an impressive feat.

Well, the G280 was a sort of let down. Theres been no easy answer for a gpu upgrade for awhile now. Maybe this will get the ball moving. Im not just the only one . This in itself is funny, this IS the time to be excited. Anybody want to upgrade from their 8800s? Anyone been able to?

who really needs to upgrade their 8800s, it plays 99% of the games phenomenaly anyway. However the cards are starting to show their age, games like Mass Effect, AC, and the game that is probably tougher than crysis, Call of Juarez DX10. We Will NOT! see the performace we expect, UNTIL!!, Real DX 10 aka 10.1 is implemeneted into gamesin AC with 10.1, we saw the 3870 acting like a highend card, beating the 8800s, an impressive feat! The potential of the 4800s and DX 10.1 is out there.