4870 vs 8800GTS320

OK. So the story is that I have just ordered my ATI4850 sapphire card, and I was just looking around to see if there was any decent benchmarks that show a 8800GTS320 vs the 4850, considering that I currently have the 8800GTS320, I would like to know how much performance increase will I get for going to this new card. Even if anybody can find some decent 8800gts320 vs 3870 benchies, I would be delighted because all I see are the 4850's vs the 3870's. Thank you very much for your time and I hope you can inform me correctly.

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-I play at 1680x1050 usually with 4x or 8x AA
-I play games like CSS, COD4, COH, Oblivion, UT3. (although I play css with 16xAA and 16XAF, but I have to disable that on some maps due to the frame buffer being too small)
-Heavy Video editing (in fact im encoding a couple right now, but I doubt this will affect anything)

I recently installed Vista Ultimate 64bit along with my 32bit XP, so It would be nice to see some numbers for that OS. (But the 64bit vista is mostly for experimentation and media junk that vista is designed for lol)

So that's everything, Thank you for your time!

EDIT: OOPS! I meant to write 4850! sorry!

Message edited by terror112 on 06-23-2008 at 11:27:29 PM

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Where did you order the 4870 from?? Who's offering pre-order?

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4850 is on par with the 9800GTX. Don't know about a 4870 is , maybe it will be on par with the 9800gtx+.

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stabgotham wrote :

Where did you order the 4870 from?? Who's offering pre-order?

Perhaps some VERY REPUTABLE vendor on eBay?

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Reply to rodney_ws

rodney_ws wrote :

Perhaps some VERY REPUTABLE vendor on eBay?

He! I actually just looked for one on ebay after reading this and all they have is the HD4870 sticker.

Terror112, there is no doubt the card is going to be good but why would you order one without knowing how it performs relative to the 4850?

Oh yea, Where did you order the card from? Link please.

I apologize for the misunderstanding. I am Inquiring about the 4850, not the 4870. I have recently ordered the 4850 and it will be in tomorrow.

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Reply to terror112

Go and get 4870 immediately without thinking and benching :lol:
Seriousely no need for benching 4850 is far better than 8800GTS (320)

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Reply to kad

Well you are correct, I cannot locate any VGA charts showing both the 4850 and the 8800GTS 320, but consider this, the 8800GTS 320 is about 2 generations old now (G80) in Nvidia's world.

I mean since the 8800GTS 320 came out you've had Nvidia drop:

8800GS
8800GTS 640 (G80)
8800GTS 512 (G92)
8800GT
9600GT
9800GTX
9800GX2
GTX260
GTX280

The 4850 beats the 9800GTX on several benchmarks. Without being able to give you specific numbers, I'd say you have chosen very, very well. The 4850 is a big time card for a small price when compared to the GTX series of cards.

Can I ask which brand you went with? I'm looking at one myself and I'm leaning towards Visiontek for their lifetime warranty and excellent customer service.

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Message edited by stabgotham on 06-23-2008 at 11:43:15 PM

Well I purchased it at my local PC shop here, I know a couple guys there so they give me the assurance of being able to value warranty. So I ended up picking up the Sapphire edition.. I didn't choose it, but the guys there know about failure rates.. they go through hundreds of these cards a week. The Sapphire cost me $225 CAD, which is a nice price, considering that I'm taking off $130 for trading in my 8800GTS320. So I am basically paying only $95 for the card. Plus the fact that I'm spending the extra mooneys I earned on an antec 900 case.. and as I posted before, I will paint the interior of the case some dark blue and throw a couple cathodes in there.

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Reply to terror112

Well a moderately overclocked 8800GTS 320MB shouldn't be that much slower than a stock HD4850. However at your resolution + 4xAA you will run into the 320MB framebuffer limitation in many modern games, so the extra VRAM alone justifies the upgrade. Good choice!

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terror112 wrote :

Well I purchased it at my local PC shop here, I know a couple guys there so they give me the assurance of being able to value warranty. So I ended up picking up the Sapphire edition.. I didn't choose it, but the guys there know about failure rates.. they go through hundreds of these cards a week. The Sapphire cost me $225 CAD, which is a nice price, considering that I'm taking off $130 for trading in my 8800GTS320. So I am basically paying only $95 for the card. Plus the fact that I'm spending the extra mooneys I earned on an antec 900 case.. and as I posted before, I will paint the interior of the case some dark blue and throw a couple cathodes in there.

Well, the 9600gt = 640mb version of g80 8800gts.
http://en.expreview.com/2008/04/02 [...] p/?page=10

Your 320mb version will perform a bit lower than 640mb version:
http://en.expreview.com/2008/04/02 [...] up/?page=8

9600gt has been tested against 4850:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/HD_4850/8.html

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Sounds like that's gonna be a tight setup with the blue interior and cathode lighting. You should post some pics when its all said and done.

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stabgotham wrote :

Sounds like that's gonna be a tight setup with the blue interior and cathode lighting. You should post some pics when its all said and done.

Yea, will do! Should only be a couple days now for shipping, so as soon as I get it, I will throw up a couple pics with my nikon D300 :na: and some nice benchmarks. hell, I might even consider doing a small review on the 4850 vs my 8800GTS320.

And thanks for the benchmarks!

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Reply to terror112

Not to make you feel bad, but you can get it for $199 CAD (https://www.infonec.com/site/main.php?module=detail&id=410417)

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Message edited by Shadowthor on 06-24-2008 at 01:33:54 AM

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No question the 4850 is faster than your 8800GTS (G80) 320MB.

I've got the newer 8800GTS (G92) 512MB which is faster than yours technically, and the 4850 beats mine.

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4870 scores : http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/2050/3mvxih4.jpg

Reply to uutorok

Shadowthor wrote :

Not to make you feel bad, but you can get it for $199 CAD (https://www.infonec.com/site/main.php?module=detail&id=410417)

i got mine for $189.99 canadian

Reply to Nik_I

well, it was 225 with shipping and taxes included so.....

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Reply to terror112

either way terror, being able to trade in the 320 to bring it down to 95, should make you feel better.

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Reply to cliffro

4850 should be 30%+ faster than 8800 320, especially in high res with AA. I have 8800 GTS 512 and on 1920x1200 card is running out of steam in newer games. I'm waiting for 4870 results to see if it will be the best to get 2 x 4870 or 2 x GTX260. I'm very impressed atm with 4850 results at high res with AA.

Reply to Harrisson

stabgotham wrote :

I mean since the 8800GTS 320 came out you've had Nvidia drop:

8800GTS 640 (G80)

As a SLIGHT correction, I'd note that it was the 640MB version of the 8800GTS that came out first, not the 320MB version. There was originally a bit of a stir over the 320MB version's release, as people were cheering that DX10 hardware was coming down to the "affordable" price of I think $300US at the time. Amazing how times change, isn't it? :lol:

terror112 wrote :

Well I purchased it at my local PC shop here, I know a couple guys there so they give me the assurance of being able to value warranty. So I ended up picking up the Sapphire edition..

Though Sapphire might not have quite the same warranty deals as other brands, I would say that they're the best, given that they make the reference board for the card; their counterpart for nVidia's cards is eVGA.

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