amd athlon 64 processor question

hey I have an AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3500+ 2,2 GHz
the board is a kv2 extreme socket939.. this board has agp 8x I wanted to try and get a board with pci express.
I'm wandering can this processor work with an am2 board?
also it seems like all the s939 boards are outdated and no one sells them.. know anywhere to buy one?

s939 <> AM2. If something is not running well on your PC, tell us what it is. What GPU do you have?
It is an easy thing to say, but building a new rig (if you have even $500-$600) will probably make the most sense.

Don't bother getting a PCI-E mobo for a 3500+ single core cpu ... your throwing money away.

Your better off getting a new AM2 mobo and a low end dual core cpu ... and some new ram.

The AM2 mobo's and cpu's all require DDR2 ... so your old DDR1 RAM can't be used.

An alternative might be to get a second hand dual core X2 939 CPU for it ... like a 3800+ ... there are plenty around.

You can also get a decent AGP graphics card for it too ... something like a 6800GS or 7800GS or even a 3850 ... getting a bit expensive tho.

Either get all new stuff or look for a low end X2 939 cpu and a decent AGP card.

Hope this helps.

http://computers.listings.ebay.com [...] ngItemList The link above is the best source for outdated hardware and there are some good deals out there whether you new mb or cpu the dual cores tend to go for a high price though.

Common reynod. You know this is incorrect.What it did is moved the IMC from the NB to the CPU. AMD still uses the NB for the PCI controller and such.

I thing pogsnet was thinking of Athlon XP since it didn't have a IMC on it and still relied on the FSB and a NB from either SiS or Via which both just blew.

Whoops didn't see your original comment about the Athlon XP. Sorries.

reynod is right. I don't think I'd even bother digging for older parts, though. The problem is that they typically end up costing about the same, or more, as new "low end" stuff, but perform worse, so you're just shooting yourself in the foot trying to continue on with a discontinued platform.

Good computers are stupid cheap these days if you just put some thought into it. I remember when I got my computer that was socket 939 with an Athlon 64 3000+ and 6600GT for like $700, and I thought it was a crazy deal. But now, spending almost half of even that, you can build a computer that will be reasonably close to high end performance by today's standards (long as you aren't talking about some over the top water cooling setup with three way SLI or something), if you just set it up right.

You could get an Intel E2000 series processor for less than $100, overclock it to 3 GHz without even turning up the voltage, a P45 motherboard for less than $100, and a 9600GSO for under $100, which is extremely close to an 8800GT. That's practically the whole computer right there, and so far that's potentially less than $300. 2GB of RAM good DDR2 is like $30, and assuming your power supply is about 300 watts or more and you will keep your case, you're set. If not, you can often find one with a huge rebate, or that basically gives you a decent power supply for free with an affordable case. I assume you'd also keep your drives, as well, but even if you wanted a new hard drive, you can get some of the fastest ones in single or dual platter form with huge capacities, again, for $100 or less.

Also, the E5200 is just about to come out (possibly in just a few days, not sure if it's coming with all the rest of them) and it's only supposed to be $84. Those have more cache than the E2000s, and I've seen on several sites that people were able to overclock them to 4 GHz on reasonable voltage and air cooling, which doesn't even take 333 MHz FSB. Any current motherboard does that stock.

The budget to high end performance price gap just keeps closing up more, and it doesn't even really require any overclocking effort and fiddling with settings at this point.

You could always go with AMD, too, but I don't really bother looking into them too much anymore. I put an X2 4200+ in my old 939 board after a while, but then the board died soon after, and I was forced to replace it. This was something like 8 months ago, and I already had an impossible time trying to find new 939 boards and related parts, which is why I said not to bother. I just replaced it with cheap Intel stuff, and at this point, I'm actually GLAD the board died and I had to replace everything, because it didn't really cost much, and it kills what I had with the X2 4200+, even though that already killed my Athlon 64 3000+.

I can just get a quad core for cheap some day if I ever need it, which you could also do with anything like what I suggested above, and it will last someone like me, and probably you, a long time to come.

On the matter of thinking ahead and making it last, you could also get a cheap motherboard with an Nvidia chipset so you can add another card in SLI later on, or get one of the cheaper P45s with Crossfire, either of which can still be had for about $100, and then just add another of whatever card you get for possibly $50 down the road, and there's no telling how long that might last.

The thing about the 45nm E5000s is that they're still rated at 200 MHz FSB for some reason, I guess since they're really intended for low end setups.

But then that gives them a multiplier of 12.5x, which is, dare I say, retarded high for Core 2 processors, basically making the FSB capability of the motherboard totally irrelevant. Like I said, it doesn't even take 333 MHz, the standard speed, to hit the 4 GHz cap. The E4700 has 13x and the same amount of cache, but won't overclock as well, and costs almost twice as much. None of the actual "high end" models come too close to that multiplier, despite costing many, many times as much.

You have a good point about the RAM speed, but DDR2 is just stupid cheap at this point. Lol look at this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820227196

The E7000s are only rated at 266 MHz, so it's still unlikely that basically any current motherboard or some of the very affordable RAM would not be able to handle pushing those as far as they go. I think the E7200 is going down to about $110 when the E7300 comes out (like I said, probably in a few days), but I'm not sure if the E7300 is going to be based on the new stepping or not, as I think it's still designated MO, but then again, so is the E5200, and that seems to universally go faster than some current E7000s and E8000s will go. You only get 1MB more L2 cache with those, though, and I think going from 1MB to 2MB is the most important step. After that, adding several MB at a time doesn't even matter as much.