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Liquidcooling...need help

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April 23, 2009 7:01:04 PM

Just a list of components.
Can u tell if these good or bad.. I want a good but effective system.

Swiftech MCP655 12 VDC Pump Liquid Cooling System – Retail 74.99

D-Tek FuZion V2 CPU Water Block 59.99 +3.99 (Quad Core Insert)

Swiftech MCB-120 "Radbox" – Retail 14.99

Thermaltake Flow TX Plus Flow Meter w/ Temperature Indicator (CL-W0138) 31.80

Zinc-Plated Steel Hose Clamp for 1/2" OD Tubing 0.65*10

EK-MultiOption 4 Port RES 250 Rev. 2 Liquid Cooling Reservoir $49.95

Thermaltake AquaBay M3 5.25" Reservoir (CL-W0031) $36.99

Feser X-Changer Dual 120mm Xtreme Performance Radiator - Thermochill Killers! 109.99

+50 for extra stuff

I just want to know your sugesstions... Thank you

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a c 330 K Overclocking
April 23, 2009 7:18:39 PM

Ditch the flow meter.

That TT aquabay res has metric fittings, and only to ~3/8"...all the rest of your stuff appears to be 1/2". Just because it looks pretty doesn't mean it works well.

Swiftech micro res.
April 23, 2009 7:42:41 PM

your got a point there

i wanted the thermaltake reservoir so that the liquid has some color to it from the led...

i appreciate your time into this....

i need to cut like some bucks from this so what should i do?

also can i have two reservoirs and one pump...does that have any benefit?

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a c 330 K Overclocking
April 23, 2009 7:50:27 PM

Wouldn't benefit you any other than having more coolant, which doesn't really help you if you can't cool it.

Get rid of the flow meter. Get rid of that TT res.

Is there a reason you have that other tube res? It will probably have to be external mount, right? Just pick either that tube res or the micro OR the don't need both.

You could go for the DangerDen Black Ice Exreme (BIX) 3x120 for the same cost and more surface area, or look into the Swiftech MCR320 for ~$55. I use 2 of those.
April 23, 2009 8:55:23 PM

how many radiators are required in a water cooling...??? (1 radiator = 120 mm)
a c 330 K Overclocking
April 23, 2009 10:20:29 PM

You will want at least a 2x120 per CPU or GPU component. You really wouldn't be buying a single 1x120 rad anymore anyway...most rads bought are dual or triple 120s. The Feser rad you have listed in your first post is a 2x120 or commonly called a 220...meaning you can install 2- 120mm fans. So, you can get 1 radiator, but it might be a 2 or 3 x 120 radiator...or the surface area of such.
a c 86 K Overclocking
April 23, 2009 10:53:18 PM

We call a radiator a radiator. But we say by size. So a 120x3 rad is 3 120mm areas connected together.

Different brands say it a bit diff. 120.3, 320, 360, all the same thing.

But there is a 140x4 rad out there, it's huge and called the Monsta. And there is one, not used much that is square and holds NINE 120mm fans.
a b K Overclocking
April 23, 2009 11:24:07 PM

I would ditch the TT aquabay. That thing is crap from what I have read. Here are some good reservoirs:

Also ditch frozencpu, performance pc's has similar offerings and even more. Their prices are also better and shipping is cheaper. The rest of your parts seem ok.
a c 330 K Overclocking
April 24, 2009 1:38:09 PM

Petra's Tech Shop is a good e-tailer. I admit, I have used FrozenCPU a lot over the years, but they are a little more than some of the others in terms of cost. However, they do have a much larger selection of just about everything if you need it.
April 24, 2009 2:56:24 PM

If I had a quadcore Q6600 1.3125 VID @ 35 degress idle on air
295 GTX
Radiators: 2x120mm radiators???
1 pump
1 reservoir

is this reservoir ok?
EK-MultiOption 4 Port RES 250 Rev. 2 Liquid Cooling Reservoir $49.95

is the feser radiator required? can i get a cheaper one?

what is up with the flow meter?

just wondering?^^^

thank you all for your help
a c 330 K Overclocking
April 24, 2009 3:26:15 PM

You will need a CPU block and a GPU block (if you were going to WC your video card)

You can get a cheaper radiator if you wanted. The reservior is fine...flow meters are worthless and restrict flow. You will know if your system is running or not pretty quick.

If you are only WC your CPU...then a 2x120 is prob fine.

If you are WC your video card also, you will want at least 2-2x120...maybe even 2- 3x120 since that 295GTX is a dual GPU card.
April 24, 2009 4:59:07 PM

I appreciate your quick replies man...helps me a lot...

I still confused about one thing

For example lets take the connections in the radiator...

the tube to connect into the radiator ... won't the tube slip off the radiator connector.. what to do...
do i use the cable tie-things..those metal clip things

also what is the best fluid for it... (water with additives 3-4%)???

what if water leaks????????

sorry that was like 5 questions actaully

thank you
a c 330 K Overclocking
April 24, 2009 6:50:10 PM

Your fittings to your can get either snap clamps or those little radiator clamps with the screw adjustment on them (what I use)...about anything similar on this page (minus the crappy one second to the bottom)

You don't have to get them there, I just knew there was a page to reference. I always get mine at the hardware store.

You will want to use distilled water ONLY as your should add some PTNuke as well or some other anti-creepy-crawly growth inhibitor. You can add dyes and such if you want, but they rarely do much more than add color or UV reactive color.

Water leaks...this is why you leak test and make sure you have good connections. (another MAIN reason why I don't trust anything that comes pre-manufactured.) Take your blocks apart, clean them out; they often have bits of debris in them...same thing for your least flush water through them. Make sure you flush your radiators too...I usually fill mine about 1/2 way and slosh water around at least 4-5 times. You'd be surprised what comes out of them.

Make clean cuts on your tubing, don't 1/2 ass it. Clamp the tubing well, feel confident about the connection or don't move on.

Prime and test your loop...remove the ATX connector from your motherboard and jumper the green to any black wire to power your system. You will need to start/stop several times to get it going...then tilt/tip to eliminate air bubbles. Let your system run for several hours...12 at minimum...18 is better.

If there are no leaks, you are good. I suggest using a lot of paper towels on top of washcloths to allow you to see any drips (and to protect) your video card, etc. If you do get water on anything, remove your video card, RAM, etc...use canned air to blow out excess water...use a house fan and let it dry for several hours. Hopefully you used distilled water and you lower the risk of shorting, but it's never a 100% safe bet with any additives or water.
April 24, 2009 9:39:21 PM

thanks man..and anybody else got sugesstions????
April 24, 2009 9:44:25 PM

rubix_1011 i really appreciate your help....
a c 86 K Overclocking
May 5, 2009 2:15:08 PM

He's moved on, been 10 days, another happy customer. Found WC info at other places. It's what we do here. Steer them to better forums.
May 6, 2009 12:06:28 AM

FYI: I am still here...and listening to your suggestions...

appreciate yall's comments
a b K Overclocking
May 11, 2009 11:28:04 PM

^So is ti done? :)