Liquidcooling...need help

[bluejamesbond]

Just a list of components.
Can u tell if these good or bad.. I want a good but effective system.

Swiftech MCP655 12 VDC Pump Liquid Cooling System – Retail 74.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835108082&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Water+Cooling-_-Swiftech+Inc.-_-35108082

D-Tek FuZion V2 CPU Water Block 59.99 +3.99 (Quad Core Insert)
http://www.crazypc.com/products/d-tek-fuzion-v2-93073.html

Swiftech MCB-120 "Radbox" – Retail 14.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835108084&Tpk=radbox

Thermaltake Flow TX Plus Flow Meter w/ Temperature Indicator (CL-W0138) 31.80
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/6876/ex-flo-05/Thermaltake_Flow_TX_Plus_Flow_Meter_w_Temperature_Indicator_CL-W0138.html?tl=g30c229s582

Zinc-Plated Steel Hose Clamp for 1/2" OD Tubing 0.65*10
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7947/ex-tub-374/Zinc-Plated_Steel_Hose_Clamp_for_12_OD_Tubing.html?tl=g30c289s721

EK-MultiOption 4 Port RES 250 Rev. 2 Liquid Cooling Reservoir $49.95
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/reviews/6191/ex-res-126/p1/EK-MultiOption_4_Port_RES_250_Rev_2_Liquid_Cooling_Reservoir-Page1.html?tl=g30c97s165#blank

Thermaltake AquaBay M3 5.25" Reservoir (CL-W0031) $36.99
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/reviews/2224/ex-res-78/p1/Thermaltake_AquaBay_M3_525_Reservoir_CL-W0031-Page1.html?tl=g30c97s168#blank

Feser X-Changer Dual 120mm Xtreme Performance Radiator - Thermochill Killers! 109.99
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7216/ex-rad-130/Feser_X-Changer_Dual_120mm_Xtreme_Performance_Radiator_-_Thermochill_Killers.html

+50 for extra stuff


I just want to know your sugesstions... Thank you

 

[rubix_1011]

Ditch the flow meter.

That TT aquabay res has metric fittings, and only to ~3/8"...all the rest of your stuff appears to be 1/2". Just because it looks pretty doesn't mean it works well.

Swiftech micro res.

 

[bluejamesbond]

your got a point there

i wanted the thermaltake reservoir so that the liquid has some color to it from the led...

i appreciate your time into this....

i need to cut like some bucks from this so what should i do?

also can i have two reservoirs and one pump...does that have any benefit?

 

[rubix_1011]

Wouldn't benefit you any other than having more coolant, which doesn't really help you if you can't cool it.

Get rid of the flow meter. Get rid of that TT res.

Is there a reason you have that other tube res? It will probably have to be external mount, right? Just pick either that tube res or the micro res...one OR the other...you don't need both.

You could go for the DangerDen Black Ice Exreme (BIX) 3x120 for the same cost and more surface area, or look into the Swiftech MCR320 for ~$55. I use 2 of those.

 

[bluejamesbond]

how many radiators are required in a water cooling...??? (1 radiator = 120 mm)

 

[rubix_1011]

You will want at least a 2x120 per CPU or GPU component. You really wouldn't be buying a single 1x120 rad anymore anyway...most rads bought are dual or triple 120s. The Feser rad you have listed in your first post is a 2x120 or commonly called a 220...meaning you can install 2- 120mm fans. So, you can get 1 radiator, but it might be a 2 or 3 x 120 radiator...or the surface area of such.

 

[Conumdrum]

We call a radiator a radiator. But we say by size. So a 120x3 rad is 3 120mm areas connected together.

Different brands say it a bit diff. 120.3, 320, 360, all the same thing.

But there is a 140x4 rad out there, it's huge and called the Monsta. And there is one, not used much that is square and holds NINE 120mm fans.

 

[Guest]

I would ditch the TT aquabay. That thing is crap from what I have read. Here are some good reservoirs:

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=318


Also ditch frozencpu, performance pc's has similar offerings and even more. Their prices are also better and shipping is cheaper. The rest of your parts seem ok.

 

[rubix_1011]

Petra's Tech Shop is a good e-tailer. I admit, I have used FrozenCPU a lot over the years, but they are a little more than some of the others in terms of cost. However, they do have a much larger selection of just about everything if you need it.

http://petrastechshop.com/

 

[bluejamesbond]

If I had a quadcore Q6600 1.3125 VID @ 35 degress idle on air
295 GTX
Radiators: 2x120mm radiators???
1 pump
1 reservoir

is this reservoir ok?
EK-MultiOption 4 Port RES 250 Rev. 2 Liquid Cooling Reservoir $49.95
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/reviews/6191/ex-res-126/p1/EK-MultiOption_4_Port_RES_250_Rev_2_Liquid_Cooling_Reservoir-Page1.html?tl=g30c97s165#blank

is the feser radiator required? can i get a cheaper one?

what is up with the flow meter?

just wondering?^^^

thank you all for your help

 

[rubix_1011]

You will need a CPU block and a GPU block (if you were going to WC your video card)

You can get a cheaper radiator if you wanted. The reservior is fine...flow meters are worthless and restrict flow. You will know if your system is running or not pretty quick.

If you are only WC your CPU...then a 2x120 is prob fine.

If you are WC your video card also, you will want at least 2-2x120...maybe even 2- 3x120 since that 295GTX is a dual GPU card.

 

[bluejamesbond]

I appreciate your quick replies man...helps me a lot...

I still confused about one thing

For example lets take the connections in the radiator...

the tube to connect into the radiator ... won't the tube slip off the radiator connector.. what to do...
do i use the cable tie-things..those metal clip things

also what is the best fluid for it... (water with additives 3-4%)???

what if water leaks????????

sorry that was like 5 questions actaully

thank you

 

[rubix_1011]

Your fittings to your components...you can get either snap clamps or those little radiator clamps with the screw adjustment on them (what I use)...about anything similar on this page (minus the crappy one second to the bottom)

http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g30...ccessories-Reusable_Clamps_-_12_OD-Page1.html

You don't have to get them there, I just knew there was a page to reference. I always get mine at the hardware store.

You will want to use distilled water ONLY as your base...you should add some PTNuke as well or some other anti-creepy-crawly growth inhibitor. You can add dyes and such if you want, but they rarely do much more than add color or UV reactive color.

Water leaks...this is why you leak test and make sure you have good connections. (another MAIN reason why I don't trust anything that comes pre-manufactured.) Take your blocks apart, clean them out; they often have bits of debris in them...same thing for your pump...at least flush water through them. Make sure you flush your radiators too...I usually fill mine about 1/2 way and slosh water around at least 4-5 times. You'd be surprised what comes out of them.

Make clean cuts on your tubing, don't 1/2 ass it. Clamp the tubing well, feel confident about the connection or don't move on.

Prime and test your loop...remove the ATX connector from your motherboard and jumper the green to any black wire to power your system. You will need to start/stop several times to get it going...then tilt/tip to eliminate air bubbles. Let your system run for several hours...12 at minimum...18 is better.

If there are no leaks, you are good. I suggest using a lot of paper towels on top of washcloths to allow you to see any drips (and to protect) your components...like video card, etc. If you do get water on anything, remove your video card, RAM, etc...use canned air to blow out excess water...use a house fan and let it dry for several hours. Hopefully you used distilled water and you lower the risk of shorting, but it's never a 100% safe bet with any additives or water.

 

[bluejamesbond]

thanks man..and anybody else got sugesstions????

 

[bluejamesbond]

rubix_1011 i really appreciate your help....

 

[Shadow703793]

Rubix has been 100% with his info. +1 for him.

Any ways if you haven't seen these already OP:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=54331
^MUST READ. Do the leak testing properly.


More info:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=202394

 

[Conumdrum]

He's moved on, been 10 days, another happy customer. Found WC info at other places. It's what we do here. Steer them to better forums.

 

[bluejamesbond]

FYI: I am still here...and listening to your suggestions...

appreciate yall's comments

 

[bluejamesbond]

thanks

 

[Shadow703793]

^So is ti done?

 

[bluejamesbond]

Done