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June 6, 2008 2:56:19 PM



And NO this is not a JOKE i saved and sold my atv to afford this* so plz do help me


*Updated list*


Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 Yorkfield 2.66GHz 12MB L2 Cache LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER Stacker 830 Evolution RC-830-KKR3-GP Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case Real Power Pro 1000W Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer 7.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Interface Sound Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

EVGA 132-CK-NF78-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 780i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 14X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


For the HDD
Western Digital VelociRaptor WD3000GLFS 300GB 10000 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ok im going with fans good fans no water cooling.



now all i need are GPU'S! and im done should i wait or do you guys think the GT's are actly comming soon

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June 6, 2008 3:48:02 PM

Drop the CPU. QX's are NOT worth the money you will pay for them.

I would grab a Q9450 and overclock.

The 790 SLI chipset and DDR3 are not worth your money either. I would drop those and get some good DDR2 and a 780 SLI mobo.

nVidia's new GT2xx chip should be out in the next month or so. You might consider waiting and doing SLI with two of those.
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June 6, 2008 4:04:59 PM

You may also want to consider getting a 2x2GB kit of DDR2. I haven't tried myself, but according to many others, it's easier to overclock with less modules. Plus, that gives you 2 more slots free in case you want to go 8GB soon. And do you even have a 7.1 channel speaker system to hook up to this CSB XiFi XtremeGamer lol? And for the video card, as cpt said, it's only a matter of weeks, like 2 or 3 I think, before the new GTX260 and GTX280 cards come out. As far as water cooling goes, I know Danger Den is a reputable company to consider. I've even seen many good reviews of SwiftTech as well.

--Arson94
June 6, 2008 4:20:57 PM

most here will recommend staying away form that hdd because the newer perp. recording hdd's are almost as fast but hold significantly more data. I have the raptor x and let me tell ya it's loud, but it is fast. just my two cents
June 6, 2008 4:23:31 PM

Well it certainly has the best rating on NewEgg. I'm more partial to Crucial myself I've been comtemplating OCZ and GSkill RAM. The set you've listed is a good set from what I can tell, but you may want to consider some higher clocked versions as they'll help you utilize more of your FSB (listed below). The DDR2 1000 set is the same price since it comes with a slight larger MIR. However, the DDR2 1066 set is $130. You could also just try to overclock your DDR2 800 set as well. They may just be the same chips with looser timings for faster clocks and higher voltages anyway. Which is overclocking. You might have to do some slight research, but if you can overclock your DDR2 800 set to DDR2 1066 stats, I'd save the money and do that.

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
June 6, 2008 4:26:43 PM

I agree with Cpt Deadboots on all points.

Water cooling is not worth the time, hassle, and risk; unless perhaps your primary goal is hoisting the biggest e-dong possible rather than gaming or doing anything useful with your rig. Get a good air cooler like a Xigmatek 1283 or even the lesser (but still decent) Freezer 7 Pro.
That CoolerMaster PSU is on tier-4 of the list at http://www.tomswiki.com/page/Tiered+PSU+Listings?t=anon.
$420 for it and that case is obscene. Assuming you will overclock your SLI rig, get something like the mid-tower CoolerMaster CM-690, which already comes with a side fan, takes additional fans, and offers plenty of space.
For a lot less, get the CM-690 and this PC Power and Cooling 860W PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Get a quiet 120mm-140mm fan (or two) for the top of the case, and then have at it.
June 6, 2008 4:26:45 PM

yes the HDD iv been reading about the sound i love loud sound = i know its being cooled!

also thank you for the othor g.skill ram ill go with that.


edit for jtt yea i just called my guy who builds pcs he says this case will be fan enuff with fans but with g00d fans :)  thank you guys for all ur imput hopefully i can get a digi cam and take some pics when its all done :D 

also post more if u think i should change and w/e ill be buying all the parts in 1-2 weeks anyhow so yea. ill see if this rumor isnt a joke this time like the gt1xx's


also the case is so much also cuz it has a 1000 watt power supply allready with it.
June 6, 2008 4:29:13 PM

well i don't know what u mean by loud sound = cooling for a hdd but if ya like it go for it. it rattles my whole damn case. hope that coolermaster stacker is sturdy!
June 6, 2008 4:30:39 PM

loud sounds = the fan is running at a faster % so its being cooled better. usly. thats the case.
June 6, 2008 4:31:57 PM

hdd's don't have fans... i'm talking about when the drive is operating i.e. seeking..
June 6, 2008 4:36:32 PM

lol yea opps not yet awake ahaha but yea some ppl dont like sounds some do.. im one who doesnt care cuz when im gameing i hear the game then the pc tower.
June 6, 2008 4:40:29 PM

omg thats what i was looking for i saw a video on youtube of a raptor bigger then 150 and thats the only ones i was getting thanks :!
June 6, 2008 4:42:33 PM

yeah it's the fastest single hdd out right now. post some pics when you get it put together will ya? later bro
June 6, 2008 4:45:28 PM

yea ill get some pics when its all done.

should i wait to see if the new GPU'S are comeing thats the only thing i need to complete my list.

ill buy good fans to keep the air.
June 6, 2008 5:34:51 PM

Yea, I would wait for the new GPU's. I mean they are so close to coming out that it would financial suicide to not wait lol... Or, at least wait for reviews. I mean surely there will be reviews before these puppies are released to the public. If you decide to jump anyway before the new cards come out, then have fun and good luck.

--Arson94
June 6, 2008 5:47:57 PM

well the 9800's beat everything atm and they usly dont release unless they need to beat a anthor brand like ATI or w/e so yea. but yes the last gtxx's was a rurmor and now there is a gt2'xx rurmor going around..
June 6, 2008 5:55:50 PM

Rumor? You mean the card's existence itself is a rumor or just the performance? If you're talking about existence, then I'd say that's no rumor, these puppies are at Computex 2008 this year and too much info and too many pics have been leaked to be a mere rumor. As for performance, yea who knows. All i know is that for f***ing $600, the GTX 280 better be one badass mother f***er. They are coming, but what they can really do who the hell knows yet. If it were me, I'd wait another week or two. But I'm a cheapass and it's hard for me to spend my money unless I feel like it's the best deal. lol other people don't have that problem. And yea, the 9800's are the best atm, i just can't spend that kinda money lol

--Arson94
June 6, 2008 6:00:00 PM

i have that problem but i dont like waiting lol! if i had money i would order every part in 1 day shiping but i dont lol yea i sent logan email asking about this at Tigerdirect hopefully he gets back to me. but yea il wait but ill order all the parts but not the GPU'S
June 6, 2008 6:16:02 PM

Quote:
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231166

You should grab some DDR2 800. There are some incompatibilities (esp. on P35 chipsets) with native DDR2 1066 RAM. You might want to check how well the EVGA 780i plays with the RAM.

Quote:
COOLER MASTER Stacker 830 Evolution RC-830-KKR3-GP Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case Real Power Pro 1000W Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119136


You are over paying on the case. If possible just grab a cheaper case (Antec 900/1200 :)  ). Also the PSU that comes with the case is a CoolerMaster, which I and many others consider to be "not the best" (that PSU is probably in tire 3). I would recommend you get a PP&C 750 or if you have the money a Corsair 1kW.

Is this what you are trying to build?
http://www.alienware.com/product_detail_pages/alx/alx_o...

Also what resolution do you plan to play at? And also do you need a new LCD or if you already have one, what is the max res. for that LCD?
June 6, 2008 6:28:47 PM

That 1000W CoolerMaster PSU is not a quality unit (@Shadow: it's on tier-4). You can do a lot better, for a lot cheaper. If you buy this PC P&C PSU for $250 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (which is still more than you need), you're left with $170 for the case. You can get a decent case for less than that, so you'll have a great PSU and a good case instead of an iffy PSU and a monster case.
In fact, the PSU calculator at http://www.extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine suggests you'll need 558W (based on OC to 3.6 GHz and 2x9800GX2 in SLI). You could use a PC P&C 750W unit like this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... which is only $110 after MIR; that would leave you with $310 for the case.
June 6, 2008 6:31:58 PM

what cases do u guys recommend? im about to email my pc dude soon who builds my stuff

i like those cases with those side fans anyone know a good one or the same without a power unit
June 6, 2008 6:37:05 PM

I like CoolerMaster cases. My current rig is in a CM-690, and I like that case. It isn't a full tower though. CoolerMaster, Thermaltake (e.g. Armor), Antec, Enermax, Gigabyte Aurora; all are supposed to be decent.
June 6, 2008 6:41:14 PM

All right then, there you go.
June 6, 2008 6:44:46 PM

Onus said:
That 1000W CoolerMaster PSU is not a quality unit (@Shadow: it's on tier-4).

Yeah, that's what I thought so too. But, I would atleast guess the CoolerMaster 1 kW PSUs are at least Tier 3?
June 6, 2008 6:52:20 PM

Dont use that list anymore its outdated and very bias....ive done some research while gone on PSUs and the CoolerMaster 1000 is pretty good. Not the best but it wont blow up on u.

Its an Enhance OEM which is good. Efficiency is pretty good at 80+. Regulation looks good...12v could be better but its within spec and the Ripple is pretty good

Thats my opinion....not the best of course (cough cough HX 1000 cough cough :D ) but it wont die...pretty good PSU

Edit: Actually that Coolermaster might be better than the OCZ. The OCZ has similar 12v regulation but the 5v is worse....efficiency is less and the ripple looks worse also

Just my 2 cents
June 6, 2008 6:58:05 PM

can you guys link me were these supplys are newegg seems not to have them u guys recommend.


or link me to a good one.
June 6, 2008 6:59:28 PM

@Silverion7 7:Yeah, the OP for the XS list is currently updating the list. I haven't seen any new reviews for the CoolerMaster 1 kW PSUs, so mind linking one?
June 6, 2008 7:02:06 PM

sure thing...

That list is not good cause it goes by company....so if one Silverstone is good theyre all good etc.

This is my favorite site http://www.jonnyguru.com/index.php. They test the PSUs very well with specific equipment. That and [H]ard OCP test them well also. Both take them apart to check the actual components which is awesome

The CoolerMaster is on page 4 or 5 i think and the GameXtream is towards the end....maybe 7
June 6, 2008 7:04:05 PM

gadgetnerd said:
can you guys link me were these supplys are newegg seems not to have them u guys recommend.


or link me to a good one.

Links:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PP&C 750 $110 after MIR

(If not SLI):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PP&C 610 $100 after MIR

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
(Modular cable) Corsair 620HX $140 after MIR

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Corsair 550VX $80 after MIR
June 6, 2008 7:05:25 PM

Depends on price....give me a price for the PSU and ill suggest a good one...

Price makes it all...Plus if u want modular or not
June 6, 2008 7:06:37 PM

i just need a power unit that will do SLI good. under 200$
June 6, 2008 7:11:02 PM

(have to be newegg???) the Ultra X3 on directron.com is at $200
Modular, 1000W and very good

never trust newegg....they generally dont understand...sites like johnnyguru test the PSUs to the extreme (hot box, full load, crossload etc.) so i use them....if it survives that well its pretty good
June 6, 2008 7:11:27 PM

no any site but trust worthy to use a CC at.


ur site has no hacker testing icon.
June 6, 2008 8:07:10 PM

Yea its there....u can go different though....i would get it for $200 but not $250 cause the Corsair HX1000 is ~$250

Thats probably the best 1000 Watt on the market atm...the Corsair
June 6, 2008 11:36:50 PM

I too trust Jonnyguru, due to the thoroughness of their testing methods. That said, in the absence of tests of a specific model, the tiered PSU listing is a reasonable rough guide, or a starting point. None of my recent PSU purchases (Enermax, Mushkin, FSP, Antec Earthwatts) have given me any grief; I considered that list first before buying, then checked other places. Careful about Newegg reviews; it is very obvious that my .sig applies, and in spades.
June 7, 2008 8:30:41 AM

thx for the help i sent the list to the guy who built my last pc as im still learning. so ill wait and see what he says..
!